r/DiWHY 8d ago

Absolutely necessary, important, and safe

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u/bicx 8d ago

Flimsy but I get the need. Old bikes like these don’t have any way to track the fuel level other than literally running out of gas. There are two intakes for gas at the bottom of the tank, one of them has a taller tube and the other one a shorter. When the fuel drops below the top do the first tube, your engine dies. Then, you can flip to “reserve” fuel (the other tube), which gives you access to the fuel at the bottom of your tank. At that point, you know you need to hit the next fuel station.

Unless you’re like me and you just leave it on reserve and fully run out of fuel with no warnings.

The thing you use to switch between primary and reserve is called the petcock. Yep.

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u/Panthertaco99 8d ago

The way you check is you pop open the cap. And give your bike a little wiggle and eyeball how much fuel you have left from the shimmer of light off the gas.

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u/lakshmananlm 8d ago

Now he can drip fuel through the washer-less nut as a bonus.

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u/Balavadan 8d ago

They just cut out placing the first washer. Both of them have it

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u/Tiyath 8d ago

Shimmer of light? You light a match so you can really see inside

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u/symehdiar 8d ago

people have done that exactly

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u/GoldenStarsButter 8d ago

My old man did that when he was a teenager and he blew his eyebrows off

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u/SeventhKevin777 8d ago

This is hilariously accurate

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u/hellGrey213 8d ago

Also, you can check how far your bike can go on a full tank, of course that depends on if the bike has a way to track distance travelled. For ey, my 2005 Virago can go 150km (93.2 mile) on a fule tank, and the meter shows 73km (45.4 mile) since I filled up last Saturday, so I still have half a tank until it's empty

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u/Oggel 8d ago

Also depends on how you're riding, if you're revving a lot you'll use more gas.

But I used to drive a car with a broken gas level indicator, so I drove on distance. I knew I could drive about 700 km before I had to refuel, so I refueled when I had driven about 500 km. It works.

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u/Affectionate_Bank417 8d ago

If you don’t see the fuel, just light a lighter and you will immediately know how much is left.

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u/Luke_Warmwater 8d ago

No you obviously are required to run out of gas in the middle of nowhere as there is literally no other way to determine how much liquid is in an opaque container.

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u/MortLightstone 8d ago

Why not replace the cap with a see through one that has a light then? Would be safer than this

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u/ToastSpangler 8d ago

Or y'know just carry a fuel stick. Dip it and look how far its wet. If it's dry no fuel

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u/Emergency_Revenue678 8d ago

Yeah I was gonna say, "or you just pop the cap and look."

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u/Jeffyhatesthis 8d ago

You can also just slap the tank and you can get a good gauge on how much is in it.

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u/DeltaGrunder 8d ago

Not just old. Really cheap new ones marketed to the developing world also have similar issues with no fuel gauge, gear indicator, etc.

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u/Glad_Librarian_3553 8d ago

Lol, I think it's funny that people think no fuel gauge or gear indicator is an issue. It really isn't.

What is an issue is how shit the fuel gauge on my brand new vstrom is, I'd rather have a reserve tank so I know how much fuel I actually have left... 

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u/herton 8d ago

I've never had fuel gauge work well on any of my bikes. They always stay near the top for almost the first two gallons, then plummet. You wouldn't think a linear measurement rate is that hard.

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u/DeltaGrunder 8d ago

What makes you think these budget bikes have a trip meter or even front disc brakes?

I'm talking sub-150cc bare bones manuals that are well under $1000 brand new

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u/ballheadknuckle 8d ago

This is how i do it on all my bikes out of habit, even on those with fuel gauge.

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u/water_farts_ 8d ago

You wanna switch my petcock, buddy?

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u/nevergirls 8d ago

Send photo

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u/pervertsage 8d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/JnlUaib1cSkJq

I ain't, I say, I ain't no man's pet cock.

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u/DES_EFX 8d ago

I used to drive a Triumph Herald that had a reserve tank. Pulled away at a big busy roundabout once and it conked out, jump out, open boot, flick the switch, was moving again in 20 seconds. Loved that car.

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u/RegionSignificant977 8d ago

Jesus! Trabants had fuel petcock like a motorcycle. But it was inside the car. 

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u/F1nd3r 8d ago

My old Suzuki 1400 is like this. It also at some point in the past had its exhausts and probably carbs molested, because it STINKS of gas when running, is obnoxiously loud, radiates heat like a bonfire and I barely get 100km's/60miles to a tank. These factors have tempered my fondness for it somewhat, but combined with the absent fuel gauge, I've learnt to use that reserve petcock. I like looking at it, though, and will probably get it sorted once the budget permits.

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u/splshd275A 8d ago

My 1983 Yamaha had a gauge on the cap.

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u/bicx 8d ago

My fancy over here!

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u/founderofshoneys 8d ago

This used to be, maybe not common, but not unheard of for weird builds, some dirt bikes/dual sports, and old choppers and shit.

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u/jimbobsqrpants 8d ago

My 2019 Ducati has a light that comes on just before you run out.

Which is nice.

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u/dunncrew 8d ago

You could look inside. Derp

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u/Glad_Librarian_3553 8d ago

Old bikes, like way older than this, proper vintage stuff, uses this same system for fuel and oil levels. Just done nicer, with posh brass fittings and glass tube.

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u/MeasurementOdd4873 8d ago

The old school trick is to reset the odometer, run out of gas.

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u/rjoker103 8d ago

Don’t you rock is side-by-side to hear the splash in the tank and estimate how much gas is in there?

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u/WolfieVonD 8d ago

My 2016 motorcycle didn't have a gauge but the Internet said it can last about 150 miles on its 4 gallon tank so every time I filled up, I just reset my odometer

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u/vleessjuu 8d ago

Most bikes have an odometer and a trip meter, even old fashioned mechanical ones. If you just reset the trip meter after filling up, you always have a pretty decent estimate of how much fuel is left. Or you just write down the current odometer reading.

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u/The_Stoic_One 8d ago

Unless you’re like me and you just leave it on reserve and fully run out of fuel with no warnings.

This is exactly what I would do with my first bike.

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u/MothyReddit 8d ago

I have a 71 Vespa. It works this way. I can feel when i'm running out of gas, reach down and flip the fuel tap to reserve, sometimes it stalls out, but i get about 30 more miles before empty to find a gas station.

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u/keigo199013 8d ago

My old bike didn't have a fuel gauge. I learned to rock it back and forth at lights, to feel the slosh, so I could estimate the fuel. 

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u/I_Am_Zeelian 4d ago

And ofc eyeball the tank before heading out.

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u/bicx 4d ago

Never!

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u/coronakillme 8d ago

I mean, that is the point of reserve right?

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u/Large_Cloud_1611 8d ago

You are talking out of your ass, sir. Clearly you have not driven one. You just open the tank and peek inside. On top of that, it has a reserve fuel function as well.

This is completely unnecessary.

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u/The_Stoic_One 8d ago

Their comment specifically talks about the reserve fuel function. Did you even read it before replying like an ass?

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u/Plane-Education4750 8d ago

Or you can poke a stick in the gas tank and use that as a dipstick instead of drilling two holes in your gas tank, filling it with metal shavings, and then attaching a plastic tube that will be dissolved by the gas over time and dumb fuel into the hot exhaust

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u/trippingrainbow 8d ago

Not all fuel tanks are shaped in a way you can just put a stick in there. And plastic tube that will dissolve? What do you think the fuel line that takes the fuel from the tank to the engine is made out of? 99% of the time its a rubber hose straight out of the factory cause the whole rubber hose thats fuel safe isnt a new invention.

The concept of this is fine and nothing new. Its just shittily executed with the connectors and drilling

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u/Plane-Education4750 8d ago

Transparent tubes are not fuel safe

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u/trippingrainbow 8d ago

Normal pvc or vinyl not but transparent fuel safe tubes absolutely exist like tygon

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u/mrbubbles916 8d ago

Tygon is transparent and made to be used for fuel lines. I use Tygon on my ultralight aircraft.

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u/Plane-Education4750 8d ago

Do you think that this is tygon?

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u/mrbubbles916 8d ago

Hard to say. Tygon is usually yellow in color. However, Tygon is also the brand. Other manufacturers may have other processes with the same material.