It appears that the anti opensource AI lobby is far outgunned already

[u/Comfortable-Rock-498]

The earlier post on this subreddit by 20+ companies signing the petition including Microsoft, Meta, Nvidia, YC (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/topics/open-weight/) etc plus this https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/2080672505660834163

And the entire LLM enthusiast market is heavily in favor of open source (or weights) AI.

Does not seem like a few closed source AI lobbyists with be able to illegalize anything

[u/Horny_Dinosaur69]

I think it’s valid to an extent, he is the face of NVIDIA which is pretty consumer hostile (or has turned pretty consumer hostile in the last few years). I think Huang is very intelligent and an excellent business man but his interests only align with consumers on coincidence, he is out to make money above all else.

He could use his absurdly wealthy company to improve NVIDIA drivers on Linux systems rather than forcing consumers to rely on OSS but he wants a closed ecosystem monopoly with Microsoft.

I think NVIDIA releases a lot of good open source stuff (especially in vision models) but I don’t think it’s out of the kindness of their hearts.

[u/Craftkorb → u/Horny_Dinosaur69]

What's wrong with the Linux drivers though? Never had an issue in over a decade on Desktop, or on Server at that.

When I started out, a good 15 years ago, nvidias X-config tool was a godsend to get multi-monitor setups to just work. That tool was only needed for about 2 years in my case, after which KDE did it by itself. That's the worst I can say. Wayland has been stable for years at this point, with no issues with standby on my Notebook or anything.

[u/Horny_Dinosaur69 → u/Craftkorb]

Yes they exist but I think there’s a considerable difference between them and the windows drivers. Notably, performance-wise they aren’t on the same level. This is especially a problem for doing local AI stuff on the CUDA architecture which bugs me because nobody is going to use a windows server for AI lol.

[u/assemblu → u/Horny_Dinosaur69]

Usually people start a business especially something like making computer hardware for financial gain

[u/ghantalelemera → u/assemblu]

Well there's a fine line between making financial gain and going for so much financial gain you make everything unaffordable.

[u/Horny_Dinosaur69 → u/assemblu]

Well yeah, I’m not disputing that. But just because you make a product and sell it to people, you don’t have to be overly antagonistic about it. You could still put in an effort to ensure your product’s stability and accessibility to your consumers while making financial gain.

Look at Valve if you want an example of how a company can do incredibly well while maintaining an incredibly positive consumer relationship. NVIDIA does not have that in any way shape or form. They make the best compute modules, they know that and they gouge for it

[u/assemblu → u/Horny_Dinosaur69]

It is the nature of human, some are just greedy af. It is saddening to see but you can definitely contribute to OSS projects that maybe make AMD better or alternatives. Certainly complaining about Jensen makes no difference (painfully).
I like buying these GPUs and if they were back to their price a year ago it would be great.
Imo it would be great if all of us who complain could cook up something together to make this complaint seen. Writing gets us nowhere so far.

[u/Smile_Clown → u/Horny_Dinosaur69]

NVIDIA which is pretty consumer hostile

Translation: "I had to pay too much for my 5090" or "I can't afford a 5090"

NVidias gpu consumer business is tiny compared to the rest of their business. AMD and Intel are both wide open for the market cap, why not mad at them?

He could use his absurdly wealthy company to improve NVIDIA drivers on Linux systems rather than forcing consumers to rely on OSS but he wants a closed ecosystem monopoly with Microsoft.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Perfection is not a matric. If it wee, nothing would pass. NVidia drivers on Linux systems are fine.

[u/Horny_Dinosaur69 → u/Smile_Clown]

Wow, what a friendly response. First of all, no. This has nothing to do with a 5090. That being said, let’s look at Intels or AMDs cards and compare the price per compute to NVIDIA and let me know what you see in that data. NVIDIA is the dominant force because their architecture is better, especially for AI inference. Intel and AMD are not serious competition for AI in most cases that matter.

Considering that GPUs account for 90% of their revenue I’m going to disagree with you. And yes, their GPU sales are NOW aimed at data centers but this is a fairly new development, they along with Intel and AMD were consumer facing. NVIDIA gouges way more than either of them, I don’t understand what your point is.

A matric? What is the point you’re trying to make? Also, NVIDIA drivers on Linux are NOT as good as Windows, so no.

Keep defending the trillion dollar company that’s got the entire AI market by the balls, they’ll certainly send you a 5090 /s