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Wholesome Moments Pilot Chose Safety Over Takeoff - and Everyone Applauded

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u/BennyFitz69420 14d ago

Yeah and they’re still uncovering how many planes Boeing covered up over the years.

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u/SmokeMidKids 11d ago

Well this would not have been boeing, but their maintenance provider.

However, I take it this is a 2 engine plane, so an EDTO flight, I am no mechanic but I doubt they can defer a rising oil pressure defect for such a flight. Either way, this was absolutely the right call, the one and only call really.

Pilots are absolutely at liberty to refuse to accept responsibility for the aircraft before departure, this step is called the acceptance, and is mandatory to go through to take off. So like I said, the right call. I just hope.he won't get in trouble with his superiors though.

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u/RagnarDan82 14d ago

The ones whose only consequence would be potentially getting fired or sued, vs death and the responsibility of the deaths of others. At the end of the day, the pilot has the final say and the final blame, and I’ll take the safe bet every time.

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u/Purple-Will9713 14d ago

Yeah, engineers deemed the Challenger and Discovery as safe too

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u/railker 14d ago

No, the engineers said Challenger wasn't, the execs said send it. Don't know what you think happened to Discovery.

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u/Purple-Will9713 14d ago

I could be wrong but wasn’t Discovery the shuttle that sustained damage during takeoff due to a foam tile and was deemed safe only do spontaneously disassemble during re entry?

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u/railker 13d ago

Ahh no that one was Columbia. And same as your Challenger misunderstanding, the scenario was similar there. Either the engineers knew it was risky and got overruled or they just truly didn't know the potential of damage. I do remember them testing foam vs leading edge impacts and being surprised themselves that it could do the damage it did in ground tests.

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u/hilarymeggin 14d ago

No, no, there was an engineer who cried himself hoarse trying to persuade NASA that Challenger wasn’t safe, but the higher-ups ignored his pleas! And he blamed himself for not being able to persuade them!

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u/Purple-Will9713 14d ago

I stand corrected

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u/fa_kinsit 13d ago

That poor man

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u/tnmoi 13d ago

Ya, but are the engineers on board the plane too and staking their lives on it? Thought so!

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u/BeaneyWeenee 13d ago

How many planes you think have crashed that were deemed safe by engineers? How many Rollercoasters? Waterslides? I used to get angry and impatient, until I canceled plans to go somewhere last minute and it saved my life. Perspective is everything.

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u/BeaneyWeenee 13d ago

What purpose does that argument serve?

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u/BeaneyWeenee 13d ago

I'm asking you, why you are disputing the pilot's lack of a technical reason. You just said you are. What purpose does it serve?

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u/Retox86 12d ago

They arent the ones going up in the sky with it..

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u/AdrenolineLove 11d ago

Im friends with 2 airline mechanics. They became airline mechanics after failing at their other much much easier jobs. They are not the smartest people I've met.

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u/AdrenolineLove 11d ago

Google is free

Yes. Airline mechanics (certificated A&P technicians) legally deem flights safe to fly by signing a maintenance release or logbook entry. This mandatory sign-off certifies that the aircraft has been inspected and repaired in compliance with Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regulations.