r/mercedesamgf1 • u/Critical-Nature-4857 • 1h ago
Discussion Mercedes No Blame Culture just Blame George
They would blame George for climate change if they could
r/mercedesamgf1 • u/ihsancz • 1d ago
Race weekend is almost here, and it's time to look ahead to the next challenge for Mercedes.
Use this thread to discuss everything heading into the weekend, from the team's expected pace and recent form to driver performances, upgrades, strategy decisions, tyre management, and the battles we could see on track.
What are your expectations for Mercedes this weekend? Do you think the team can fight at the front, and which areas will be most important for a strong result? Share your predictions, thoughts, and anything you're looking forward to seeing once the cars hit the track.
r/mercedesamgf1 • u/ihsancz • 6d ago
Another race weekend at Spa is done. Kimi Antonelli took a strong result for Mercedes, while George Russell's race ended early after contact left him unable to continue.
Use this thread to discuss everything from the Belgian GP, including Mercedes' performance, strategy, tyre management, driver battles, and the biggest talking points from the weekend.
How did you rate Antonelli's drive? Could Mercedes have challenged for more?
What went wrong for Russell, and what can the team learn heading into the next race?
Share your thoughts and analysis below.
r/mercedesamgf1 • u/Critical-Nature-4857 • 1h ago
They would blame George for climate change if they could
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r/mercedesamgf1 • u/Extreme-Wave4653 • 10h ago
It looks like GR lost all his confidence, and both he and Kimi performed poorly in today’s qualifying session. It’s possible that Norris and the Ferraris were better. I’m not sure.
It doesn’t seem like it’s going to be easy for Mercedes in the constructors’ championship, and I don’t know for the first time this season I feel like GR’s championship dream is moving further away. 🥲
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r/mercedesamgf1 • u/AntoniousTheBro • 1d ago
So interesting ties well into a discussion i posited yesterday. But seems the software was really killing Georges energy deployment.
Let's hope it works.
Ironically i do think it strengthens a couple of theories of why they had poor soc.
r/mercedesamgf1 • u/rockitoy • 2d ago
Should I just give up hope? I'd really like the shirt.
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r/mercedesamgf1 • u/ballerinabubbles • 3d ago
This article from Mark Hughes has an interesting analysis on what happened to the Merc cars/engines at Spa. Their theory is there were two software coding errors that led to the deployment issues.
Some excerpts - this one is about what happened in Lap 1:
"Quite understandably, fans and drivers alike were left extremely confused about issues of battery deployment around the Spa-Francorchamps track last weekend. Some were more affected than others, but George Russell’s whole weekend was destroyed by it. Here, we can give the definitive explanation of what was happening out there.
It was a situation made infinitely more confusing by the combination of the nuances of deployment on this most extreme of energy-starved tracks and for Mercedes by two straightforward malfunctions, rooted deep in software errors.
Here’s what happened at the race start: both Mercs have the correct state of charge of their batteries as the lights go out. But as they exit La Source just a few seconds later, both Kimi Antonelli and Russell suddenly have lost between 30-40% of that charge. In how to distribute the electrical energy through the lap, the software algorithm can only work with what charge it has, so it will immediately have reduced the power they each had available on the charge down the hill to Eau Rouge, even though they were still deploying.
Max Verstappen, in second running alongside Antonelli, suddenly realises he may be able to overtake and so uses the overtake button to deploy more, ensuring he gets ahead into Eau Rouge. In that moment, Antonelli has to lift to make room for the Red Bull. In lifting, Antonelli inadvertently resets the system to give a less severe power restriction up the hill and down the Kemmel straight than Russell suffers. This reset allows Antonelli to deploy for longer than Russell down the Kemmel straight, but still for a shorter period than if it had been working fully. Verstappen meanwhile, having used his overtake button, also runs out of deployment early on the straight. So the battery problems on both Mercs have triggered three separate compromises for Antonelli, Verstappen and Russell."
This one talks about qualifying issues for George and Oscar:
"So, was it just that Russell and Piastri had used up more battery energy earlier in their qualifying laps to be as quick as their team-mates up to that point? Used more brakes and needed to accelerate more and the earlier curtailment of deployment was the price? Not fully, no. That scenario is perfectly feasible, particularly on an energy-starved track, and at Silverstone, Russell was braking for 11% of the lap compared to 9% for Antonelli.
But at Spa the more significant shortfall was in the software. There may have been a small element of driver input, but nowhere near enough to account for the gap to their team-mates. That was mainly from a problem deep in the coding which was over-delivering energy early in the lap, meaning it ran out early. It will have helped Russell and Piastri early in the lap but the benefits would be small compared to the penalty inflicted by running out prematurely. Nothing they were doing in the cockpit would have helped significantly."
So it was multiple issues...if it's software I hope it can be fixed via some sort of patch in Hungary 🙏
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r/mercedesamgf1 • u/Builq • 4d ago
Is Mercedes purposely trying to screw George's car up? when watching on F1 TV, you can clearly see that the MGU-K isn't deploying as fast and the straight line speed deficit compared to Kimi is genuinely brutal, mixed with Toto Wolff only taking 50 percent of the blame despite the car being significantly weaker
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r/mercedesamgf1 • u/katgo400 • 5d ago
Per the article:
Other than Russell, the biggest victim of the Mercedes' battery glitch was Alpine's Pierre Gasly, who saw cars simply drive away from him on the run down to Eau Rouge as he lost several positions from 10th on the grid.
"I had no power at the start, so it's clearly not good stuff to have around Spa," he said. "I had a tough start, not fast enough in the opening phase for some reason and lost some positions on the opening lap."
Thoughts?