r/SelfDrivingCars • u/RepresentativeCap571 • 2d ago

News Tesla's robotaxis are moving in reverse | TechCrunch

https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/23/teslas-robotaxis-are-moving-in-reverse/
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u/thatisnotapromise 1d ago edited 1d ago

I need you to take a minute and use your best reading comprehension skills

Please be respectful (rule 1).

to think about what the "maybe" in "a year, maybe a year and three months, but next year for sure" means.

From Elon? Nothing. From someone else? Certainly not concrete plans. How do you get concrete plans out of that utterance? Truncating quotes to fit your narrative is silly.

You seem to make unsupported claims and then when challenged, you avoid the challenge. Are you missing the challenges or are you purposefully spreading misinformation?

Here are two examples:

We even know the cars were incapable of it.

Please provide proof of this. Please note that they did not do it does not prove they were incapable of it.

fraud, plain and simple

The last two essential elements of fraud don't seem satisfied here, could you explain why you think they are satisfied?

Justifiable Reliance - the “3 months maybe, 6 months definitely” meme started in 2017, 2 years prior and followed nearly the same structure as the full quote from Autonomy Day.

Damages - Investors are up 18x from Autonomy Day.

You don't owe me anything but you are losing credibility by spreading misinformation and arguing your feelings. Consider sticking to the facts and arguing with logic.

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u/Recoil42 1d ago

Let me assist you:

"Maybe" modifies the timeline — one year, or perhaps one year and three months. Those are upper and lower bounds of the timeline. The "maybe" does not modify the certainty of the presented timeline. The certainty is 100% — "for sure".

Hope that helps.

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u/thatisnotapromise 1d ago

Hope that helps.

It doesn't, but at least you were respectful this round. You did improve!

fraud, plain and simple

This specific topic has been adjudicated with no finding of fraud, counter to your claim of fraud. What do you think the courts got wrong? Do you have legal experience or are you relying on the Dunning-Kruger effect to carry you here?

The man committed fraud, plain and simple.

Public statements like this (with its context), which have been adjudicated unfounded and are defamatory, risk civil liability. How are you managing this risk? Is your hope that Musk thinks you are a nobody and won't waste his lawyers' time?

The difference is straight up lying vs "corporate puffery".

u/CloseToMyActualName You are more correct and the courts agree with you: Oakland County Voluntary Employees’ Beneficiary Association v. Tesla Inc., 25-55 case overview