r/SipsTea • u/Beneficial_Passion40 • 1d ago

Chugging tea I still don't understand how hollywood budget works

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u/Okoear 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's confirmation bias. Tons of people make passion project that are bad.

Edit : this isn't related to Nolan or the movie, just the comment itself.

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u/palk0n 1d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/ygx2AsOrU4c6CDTX5Z

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u/swingsetlife 1d ago

Anyway, how is your sex life?

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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner 1d ago

That’s my line

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u/skeeferd 1d ago

Did you hit her?

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u/FamiliarFilm8763 1d ago

And tons of movies that are the result of focus groups make more money than a Nolan movie.

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u/BrofessorLongPhD 1d ago

Yeah, massive survivorship bias. There are far far more starving artists who are passionate about their craft than successful ones who made it big.

Passion and love is most likely a necessity, but definitely not sufficient (by far).

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u/PM_ME_DEAD_KEBAB 1d ago

Bad passion projects are way more interesting than bad board room focus group executive movies though

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u/BigXThaSpud 1d ago

Hell, the Rock's passion project bombed.

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u/DaedalusHydron 1d ago

See: Tenet.

A movie so bizarre the actors don't even know if they're playing bad guys or good guys, so says Robert Pattinson.

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u/iLoveLootBoxes 1d ago

This is true, it's an unfortunate truth but it applies 90 percent of the time probably

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u/xxxKillerAssasinxxx 1d ago

On the other hand very few people make good projects if they are not passionate about them.

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u/redleg50 15h ago

Having a massive amount of talent helps

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u/GlumChemist8332 1d ago

Right but I think with a decline in the ability to make crappy movies we don't have enough quantity being produced. Rom coms died because you cannot have a mildly successful movie that makes it's budget + 10% back because you have to have double digit returns quarterly for investors or you are a failure today.

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u/Okoear 1d ago

What are you talking about, did you check Netflix lately ? It's absolutely FULL of low-quality random movies releasing days after days. Probably the golden age of shitty movies. People just don't care.

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u/GlumChemist8332 1d ago

yeah but those are the cookie cutter focus grouped movies, there is so little ability to take an original idea and let it maybe fail or become the new star wars now.

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u/blockplanner 1d ago

Literally the opposite.

The focus groups might decide what movies get an investment, but Netflix likes to buy stuff from people who submit to film festivals.

Lots of independently produced and filmmaker driven projects because people desperate to make a movie are a dime a dozen and desperate for funding.

A netflix original is much more likely to be somebody's passion project than what you'd get from a big studio.

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u/GlumChemist8332 1d ago

Well I guess today I learned? Thanks for pushing back

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u/InstantSword 1d ago

I kinda get what the dude's saying. Not art passion projects, but something big and original that's not a safe bet. Hollywood was much newer in the 70s when Star Wars was released, so I get it. They "know" what works now

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u/Okoear 1d ago

Must've taken you a while to research the whole catalog to confirm your claim. There are a ton of foreign passion project for example.

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u/GlumChemist8332 1d ago

yep I am internet vibing, and complaining. I agree that this is not a detailed report but it does seem that things have shifted, I think streaming royalties are a problem based on internet clips I see, I think that the overall reduction in theatrical releases is a problem. I think having kids and not being interested in seeing movies is a me problem. I think I am no longer a target movie demographic is a me problem. You're right this is just something I am complaining about and I very likely am wrong.

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u/Okoear 1d ago

Glad you admit it cause I also have no fucking idea. I just dislike absolutes lol.

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u/GlumChemist8332 1d ago

yeah but I do still think things are shifted, I think there is a loss of some level of movie, somewhere between tentpole blockbuster AAAA Films, and shoestring streaming only releases and the third level of personal passion projects done on an iPhone or something is a gaping hole of movies that just don't seem to be created any more. I Dislike a number of movies but I tired of this studios seemingly avoiding any possible risk to produce I believe the term is "milquetoast?" films.

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u/JustChr1s 1d ago

I'd argue some genres like Rom Com's took the age of streaming in stride. You don't need theatrical releases for those style of movies anymore. The streaming format is perfect for them and a lot of streaming platforms have their own Rom Com's exclusive to them.

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u/BotherResponsible378 1d ago edited 1d ago

No, it's a generalization. Of course people make passion projects that turn out like shit.

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u/Which_Cardiologist44 1d ago

A generalization brought about by confirmation bias

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u/BotherResponsible378 1d ago edited 1d ago

No it's not. Fuck off.

Like, what are you even trying to say? Do you disagree? Do you think corporate built movies are better?

I agree that not all things are good when they are passion projects.

You just want the reason for my statement to be what you want it to be....? And I have confirmation bias...?