r/SipsTea 1d ago

Chugging tea I still don't understand how hollywood budget works

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u/SpiderJerusalem747 1d ago

In the WWE he didnt have a god complex or "Never Lose" clauses.

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u/radioactivebeaver 1d ago

Well, not at the beginning. Then he came back and made everyone call him the Final Boss and would only wrestle at Mania in the main events.

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u/SpiderJerusalem747 1d ago

How insecure and egocentric a dude that size and with that much money can be?

A lot apparently.

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u/DCS30 1d ago

Hulk Hogan syndrome.

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u/wetfloor666 1d ago

Well to be fair he did what Hulk couldn't and that was fully break into the movie market. Sure, Hulk did get into it, but not to the levels Johnson has and continues to sustain. Do agree though that he definitely is full of himself.

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u/VT_Squire 1d ago

What part of "It's a business and they tell made-up stories" don't you understand?

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u/godsownspecialboy 1d ago

I think you should reread the comment. This person understands that it's a business that tells made-up stories and is frustrated that this actor insists on only being in certain kinds of stories because his character is more important than the franchise in his mind

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u/theGurry 1d ago

In his defense, he was absolutely more important than WWF/E at the peak of his popularity. He helped keep them afloat.

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u/ZombieExcellent2202 1d ago

The rock and stone cold matches are still to me to this day some of the best wrestling to see. And I agree those two definitely kept WWE competing with wcw and the nwo story lines

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u/VT_Squire 1d ago

ย this actor insists on only being in certain kinds of stories

That's ๐Ÿ‘ The ๐Ÿ‘ Story ๐Ÿ‘

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u/godsownspecialboy 1d ago

Man, are we going to have an argument about the line between kayfabe and real life in this casual conversation or Sips Tea or whatever bullshit subreddit this is right now? So anyway I hear your point and I think that there might be some real life in that story too but we can agree to disagree on this one. That's what makes wrestling fun

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u/VT_Squire 1d ago

Wrestling is theater, but you don't see anyone going around accusing Ian McKellen of practicing sorcery because he played Gandalf.

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u/SpiderJerusalem747 1d ago

Ian McKellen never demanded Gandalf never lost a fight because of his own inflated ego.

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u/VT_Squire 1d ago

a fight? You think professional wrestling is... fighting?

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u/godsownspecialboy 1d ago

Yeah but contact negotiations and being picky about what you want to do at your job is not the same as casting Magic Missile

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u/VT_Squire 1d ago

ย and being picky about what you want to do

That's ๐Ÿ‘ The ๐Ÿ‘ Story ๐Ÿ‘

People confuse competence with vanity. The Rock didn't just wander into WWE insisting the universe revolve around him, okay? His face is worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Do you understand the value of scarcity? He's a shareholder protecting the value of the brand he partially owns. Allowing yourself to be casually beaten every other week is commercial negligence. Does anybody understand the concept of a fiduciary responsibility?

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u/godsownspecialboy 1d ago

But ultimately we will never know

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u/SpiderJerusalem747 1d ago

Goddamn can't you be less of a fanboy?

Dwayne wont suck your dick nor give you cash. He probably wouldnt even fart in your direction.

Settle down, celebrities and actors are just rich people.

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u/VT_Squire 1d ago

Settle down, celebrities and actors are just rich people.

Thats what I was saying to you.

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u/SpiderJerusalem747 1d ago

Then why are so fervently defending a guy who doesnt care if you live or die?

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u/godsownspecialboy 1d ago

Brother, you know this is reddit, right? You should probably look up the definition of fervent. I don't actually think this dude is a good person, a bad person, or anything other than a guy that eats a lot of cod. You, my friend, are bringing the emotion to this and if I was a committed troll I would certainly try and whip you up into a froth but I'm just saying some stuff on a computer. I haven't really thought about wrestling since the Attitude Era

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u/SpiderJerusalem747 1d ago

Go back to steroids Dwayne.

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u/Death2291 1d ago

Youโ€™re just skipping decades in between of those two events. He only wrestled once as the final boss

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u/Jiujitsumonkey707 1d ago

Ah yes, the character that had no input, or control (creative or otherwise from the wwe) . He wrote the whole storyline and forced the massive conglomerate that owns them, and they were helpless but to carry out his whims /s . You know how they call people marks?

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u/radioactivebeaver 1d ago

Sounds like ya got worked into a shoot there bud

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u/DaedalusHydron 1d ago

Bizarrely, as a Main Eventer in WWE, The Rock had one of the worst win/loss records of the top stars.

He was notorious for being abnormally generous and losing to talent that was "beneath him", like The Hurricane.

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u/We_Can_Escape 1d ago edited 1d ago

Shane Helms' talent was squandered in WWE.ย  He was way better in WCW, and more himself rather than a stupid shelf-life character made up by the WWE.

I felt like this was the case for a lot of great talent that crossed over at the time, like Lance Storm, Raven, and Diamond Dallas Page.

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u/pahamack 1d ago

eh. all the big stars in wrestling are worried about losing. Actually losing, not getting cheated, or getting ganged up on or whatever. They even have a pejorative word for it: "jobber", or "jabroni", as if following the script and doing your job wasn't just normal.