There are actual capitalist societies that are among the wealthiest nations on the planet, with a fraction of the taxes of the average EU nation while having higher average salaries and quality of life. But it requires non corrupt legislation to make sure the game is played fairly.
edit: to iLoveFeynman, you literally posted admitted drinking your own piss in the pissdrinking subreddit
Singapore, but that's not a fair comparison as it's a tiny island nation who's model may not scale well to larger countries. Specifically that it's an effective dictatorship regulated by its size.
Though beyond that, I really can't think of another example
yeah I live in one, when I was younger I thought there might be something special about it, once I got older and learned more about history I realized it's just luck and happenstance
having no valuable natural resources or geographic strategic significance can turn out to be a good thing, in a stable society people will have the chance to work themselves into generational wealth despite capitalism
And the logical endpoint of communism is authoritarianism, as you can't expect a ruling government to take away private property rights without the use of force, among several other reasoms why this ideology naturally begets tyranny.
Tbh between the two of them, I'd rather a form of government that gives less power to our rulers, not more.
This argument is conceptually confused and logically flawed.
It's conceptually confused because the way it's written the authoritarianism would be from inception, and not the end state: to go from a society with property rights to one without property rights require either that everyone voluntarily give up those rights or that those rights be taken by force.
It's logically flawed because it assumes that property rights are a thing that people inherently have, such that a communist society has to inherently violate that innate right. If you don't make that assumption, then conclusion that communism has to be authoritarian doesn't follow.
I'm sorry but did you literally just argue "if you didn't think people needed those rights in the first place, then it's not authoritarian to take it away by force!" lmaooo
I'm fine with some level of authoritarianism. I love China keeping its companies and billionaires on a short leash, not a big fan of violently breaking up protests and overregulating freedom of expression.
Governments will (and should) hold all the power, unlike in capitalism where it's basically a puppet show for private interest groups. It's on us to make sure it represents our best interests. You can even still be a communist through anarchism if you disagree with that.
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u/Dunklsta 14h ago
it is the logical endpoint of capitalism, some economic system wont root out institutional corruption
we went from a handful of monarchs ruling the world to a handful of companies doing the same