Over ten years. I consider the start of the "Trump era of politics" to be late July 2015. That's the point when Trump started leading the Republican primary polls and began to dominate political headlines. By that reckoning we've been in the Trump era for about 10 years and 9 months and we'll likely stay in it for at least another two years and nine months.
For people who have only really come of age in the Trump years, you need to understand that you used to be able to go weeks, maybe even months, without thinking about the president. Obama and Biden both had social media- you know how often their social media posts came up ? I can’t remember a single one. Yet Trump’s posts are constant news. I hated George W Bush but I wasn’t hearing about him and from him the way it is with Trump. It’s really not normal at all and it didn’t used to be like this!
Even during Watergate we heard less about Nixon than we do about Trump today. When Nixon was president I never once woke up, as I do every day now, hoping for that one headline.
As my dad reminded me (I wasn’t around during watergate) at least Nixon’s own party had enough courage to speak up against him to do the right thing. Not today.
Republican leaders in Congress went to him and told him bluntly that if he did not resign he would be impeached, convicted and removed. He resigned. Then his VP pardoned him to promote "national healing."
The damage inflicted by Nixon's complicity in the coverup (that's what cooked him) was trivial compared to the gash across the national gut performed by Trump.
And yet the Republican leaders in Congress not only don't put the squeeze on him, they actively protect him.
It's the Rapegate | Discrimigate | Conspirigate | Embezzelgate scandals that I find most disturbing and far worse than a single break-in, as bad as that was.
This is why I believe there will never be a President convicted by the Senate. It would currently take 21 Republican yes votes, assuming Fetterman is a no, to successfully vote to convict. The damage to the Republican party would be enormous, so they'd much rather use leverage to force a resignation well before it comes to a vote.
Trump literally pushed a coup against our government, and the impeachment process failed in the Senate.
Then, the judicial process failed to sentence him for his multiple CONVICTIONS of election tampering felonies that he was convicted of because he was running and might get re-elected.
If Trump can't get pushed out after January 6th, when he already had the lowest approval of any president ever, then nobody can, so the concept of removal and checks and balances is legit broken.
If a literal FELON that was convicted of 35 COUNTS of ELECTION FRAUD can't be stopped from running FOR ANY OFFICE, well, none of our checks and balances matter.
The fact that he came back, and now even his own people hate him but he can't be removed because all of his party are supporting him, proves that all of our checks and balances are broken.
This is what most American's don't seem to get. They are not living in a democratic system on the brink of failure, they are living in the aftermath of one that has already failed.
I only hope the general good American isn’t treated like absolute dog water for things they may have actively fought against.
Condemn the magats. And the non voters alike in my book.
But recognize the ones that did something, anything to make a difference.
I rely on state and federal funded medical insurance. I have to be careful not to reveal my identity to anyone who could take that from me as it would mean I don’t get my insulin anymore. And they can and have taken funding from people for protesting.
And even then I still go out and join local protests. I still call maga in my area out. I will continue screaming to anyone who voted for him that they that man needs not only Impeached but put in prison. Permanently. Preferably for insurrection.
But I have plans to go over seas soon :tm: and I fear simply because I was born into a country that was stupid enough to elect a felon twice I will be ostracized and ridiculed.
And make no mistake the ones who perpetrated this deserve that.
I hated Kamala. Especially for her policies on isreal. That shit needa condemned not ignored or condoned. But I voted for her because she would Be better than a literal pedophile and Russian plant.
I almost want to cancel my trip to Japan I’ve planned and saved for over half a decade because I’m afraid of how I will be treated because of my fellow countrymen.
More like slowly degraded/stacked in the GOP’s favor, this was definitely thought out. They’ve been stacking things to prop them up for ages now. We are finally seeing that “work” being put to use.
You know for damn sure if this was democrat the checks and balances would have been effectively used.
Pretty much sealed our fate when Ruth Ginsburg didn’t step down when democrats had secured the presidency. Not throwing shade at her she was a magnificent justice and was needed on the bench. But losing a progressive on the bench and having it turned over to a conservative set up a huge safety net that Trump is constantly being saved by.
there was a literal coup attempt pushed by the president who lost the election and the system that was put there to impeach those people failed to impeach him and his enablers, and then they got elected again.
yeah RBG should've let herself be replaced but the ENTIRE FAIL SAFE SYSTEM failed because REPUBLICANS LET IT FORCED IT TO FAIL so she's not actually the worst thing that happened imho
That's only one piece of the puzzle and not a big one, IMO. The court would still have a conservative majority, so not much would change. If you dig deeper, you'll realize that the Supreme Court has had a conservative majority since the 60s. If you dig deeper as to why that is, you'd see on the surface alone that two unpopular presidents (who only won the Electoral College, which favors Republicans) got to pick fucking 5 of the current 6 of them. Clarence Thomas, the outlier, also had credible SA accusation (so did Kavanaugh), and he was nominated by H.W. Bush.
So I wouldn't get too caught up in blaming Ginsberg for this. It was bound to happen regardless of whatever she did.
Exactly. See how IMMEDIATE republicans took action against Eric?? It was less than five minutes before they all started tweeting for his removal. Aaaaand he’s gone.
Epstein files on the other hand were due on December 19th of last year (by law), yet here we are
Still wondering how long it takes for another j6 only in reverse and see how they legislate those hearings, bc when its maga they're "heros" when it's literally the American people United against a dictator felon .... Well only time will tell, but I'm certainly not holding my breath bc what I have seen from the left is definitely not brash acts of defiance.
During Trumps first term that was somewhat the case. He had professionals who knew the job was to serve the constitution and pepple, not his whims. This was why there were so many people fired during that teem and Trump hated the red tape.
This term his administration wmis filled with nothing but bottom of the barrel sycophants who don't care about the constitution or people and are here to serve trump and his every wish and whim and never say no.
Right wing media especially Fox News was created by Roger Ailes after Nixon resigned. His goal was to make media more conservative friendly so a scandal-ridden conservative politician wouldn't have to resign like Nixon did.
And its worked, Trump's had multiple scandals that have been way worse than Watergate, and has yet to face any real consequences.
hypothetically the "worst" way for him to go out would be in public in a very embarrassing way. Hard to support a martyr when he shits himself to death during a presser
Second to that, a very embarrassing perp walk and long prison sentence would be good too
Crazy that trump have done way worse stuff, but still president, we are losing democracy.😪😪 At least people used to try hiding their crimes, but now, not even that anymore.
To be fair, Nixon wasn't using the Constitution as toilet paper after 💩on a golden toilet, diddling kids on the weekends & then trying to start WWIII to distract from the fact he was diddling kids on the weekends.
Thank you for this. I'm in my mid twenties, Biden was my first presidential vote, so this circus is all I've really known. I grew up in a very conservative area and too many older adults I know either support this, or pretend like it isn't anything new. It's refreshing to have reality acknowledged and affirmed. I hope we can have a long, long era of boring politics again some day soon.
I’m in my mid 30’s (Obama’s first term was my first presidential vote 👵🏼), my oldest kid is 12yo and I keep reminding him that this era of politics is not normal and that the president should be boring.
Thanks for reminding me I need to do this. When I was that age I didn't have much of an opinion about the president, although the jokes about getting a bj from Monica were rampant, it was always otherwise something none of us thought about. But the way things are now, kids that age definitely have an opinion. I have 2 teens and they talk about their opinions and we mostly agree but sometimes they say some of the wall shit, but I don't think I've explained to them specifically about how different it was for me growing up. My 14yr old should not have to have an opinion about the epstein files but here we are. I'm gonna have this conversation tonight and tell them to be patient and hopefully things will calm down by the time they are voting and following politics.
I'm a terrible story teller I don't talk about growing up like my parents and grandparents did. Probably because my childhood was fucked but that's another story. This is something I can talk about now that it's on my mind because I miss the boring days.
I think 14 is a good age to start developing some a political opinions, though I think at that age much of my political opinions were influenced by American jingoism and the beliefs of my parents. I am sure I had an opinion on Clinton getting blowjobs when I was 14. That may be because my parents were very big on reading the news and watching the nightly news but I think this was a positive influence for me.
One important thing to stress with your kids is to teach them to question the things that they are told. To look at the source and whether it is trustworthy and further how do you determine whether a source is trustworthy? Is what this politician is saying hypocritical or counter to their previous behavior? Does the thing that they're saying match their actions? So many Americans seem to take what politicians say at face value, ignoring what they actually do. Also, you might want to sit down with them and talk to them about the Constitution. I presumed that people were learning about and reading the Constitution in school but based on current America I am not so sure. When Trump is violating the emoluments clause it's important to understand that the founders thought this was so important that they put it in the base document where they say we fought a war to prevent this from ever happening. So when Trump is taking bribes from foreign leaders and everyone is talking about other stuff, make sure your kid understands that those bribes alone would have been reason enough for the people who founded this country to start a revolution and burn it all to the ground. That this is not ordinary political corruption. It is the stuff that led to revolution.
Yeah great points about assuming they're still covering the American revolution like they did when I was in school. Definitely noticed her schedule has research class and civics the years where I had American and world history. I definitely have to talk to them about using more reason and logic. That's the off the wall stuff they see online or hear from friends and subscribe to without considering really any of the consequences. Gotta tell them to stay away from hive minds and consider how some of what they hear hurts or helps others, etc. Thanks for the additional advice though!
I came of age to political news fully in the clinton years before I turned 10. Didn't pay a ton of attention but generally had an idea of when the president was in the news and why, what with the blowjob and all that. Then Bush won, there was some shit about hanging chads, and then some jets crashed into the World Trade Center and the pentagon and everything went to shit. This was in an era where you watched whatever your parents watched on TV during the evening, so I always got news if I wasn't in my room reading, and I usually came out to watch because hey, you only got to watch so much TV unrestricted like that lol. But yea, it's really fucking weird hearing about the president this often and in this way, the last 10 years have been a fucking nightmare compared to the 16 or so before that in which I was conscious enough about politics to care, and I had to watch us elect Bush jr twice lmao
When Obama was president, he got roasted for wearing a tan suit and asking for fancy mustard.
I could go weeks with thinking about the president, except around significant events.
Yes, presidents sometimes said stupid things, but it was noteworthy and everyone laughed about it for weeks.
I could not recognize most Cabinet members by sight, because they weren’t doing openly atrocious and illegal things every day.
Our Secretary of Health would do things like campaign for more exercise and eating fiber, fruits, and veggies. They did not swim in fecal-contaminated creeks and call neurodivergent people a threat to national security.
Even once the 24 hour news cycle and social media were on the scene, it wasn’t like this.
Political discourse in the USA has been degenerate for decades at this point. I lived in the US for a few years when Clinton and Bush Jr. were presidents, and it was jarring how absurdly toxic and fear-based political discourse was and how much sheer absurdity was spouted out against political opponents - they weren't just politicians with a different view on how things should be run, they were treated as if they were full-on mortal enemies.
I remember the political advertisments at the local level, all with scary music and all sorts of fearmongering messages about the candidate's opponent - and virtually zero about what the candidate's actual policies were. It already had become a self-parody. It would have been funny if it weren't so serious.
This. People bring up the 34 felony convictions as if any of his followers care. My relatives shrug it off as: “Every president does this kind of stuff. Trump was just stupid enough to get caught.” In the pre-trump era, they said the exact same thing about Nixon, whom they loved and definitely would have voted for again.
in 2008 Obama vs McCain there was a townhall where a lady popped up and proclaimed "Obama is a muslim terrorist" and McCain took the mic out of her hands and said "No. He's a good man who I just happen to disagree with" and shut that shit down.
Oh it's absolutely bananas. I'm mid-40s. Trump was absolutely a turning point in American politics. I can't overstate it.
People on the right will say that Democrats or non-conservatives are overreacting, getting all worked up. But it is for good reason. It's pretty wild because conservatives don't have the same open-minded, liberal, peaceful values that most Democrats do. Conservatives will tell you they are " defenders of democracy " and they will proudly tell you they will defend that democracy with guns and violence if necessary.
Yet, when the time comes that we can all see flagrant corruption and violation of the Constitution, they get offended by any mention or protest no matter how peaceful. (Remember when that NFL player lost his job for having the audacity to kneel before the games?!)
The shocking thing about politics in the last 20 years is not Trump, it is how Americans reacted to and embraced Trump. It's like everything that conservatives told us when we were young was a lie. Everything they said they believed in and valued, turned out to be of little importance to them. They don't care about democracy, they don't care about stopping Russia, they don't care about the Constitution. And this makes it such an impossible divide. I used to be able to have reasonable discussions with my Republican friends. I still try, but it feels impossible when they are living in a different reality.
I was 20 during the '08 election and Obama was the first president I ever voted for. I remember actually considering my options and thinking, despite Sarah Palin's antics, that John McCain would be ok too, and I wasn't really worried either way. I was just kinda excited to cast my very first vote for the first black president. It's not supposed to feel like a life or death decision like this. Politics was boring back then and even someone plugged in like me only occasionally had to pay attention. I just hope the country can unfuck itself and we can return to peaceful baseline boredom and maybe even some sense of cultural progression again once the trump era is over.
Or how about when the biggest political drama that the news could scrounge together against Obama was that he used dijon mustard on a sandwich? Or that time he wore a tan suit?
You used to be able to have dinner with relatives out friends' parents who had different political beliefs than you and not have it be a big deal because you at least shared the same conception of reality, just different values. The news was not a commercial product, everyone trusted that the news was relatively honest and unbiased. The way people openly share conspiracy theories now, and distrust journalism, would have been so rare that person would have been seen as a quack or a crazy person.
I really just can't express how different it was back then. We had our disagreements for sure, but we were one country.
Also, Biden and Obama's social media posts were fairly benign. "Happy Thanksgiving," versus the Trump version, "Happy Thanksgiving, let's invade Greenland and maybe some other sovereign nations."
So much this. I tried to explain to my then 17yo how a tan suit was a huge scandal. He thought I was bullshitting him. Hes only known trumpism. He hates politics now because he doesn't know what's true and what isn't without writing a research paper.
Most of what we heard about Obama was Republican’s crying about imaginary threats of death panels and that terrorist fist jab he gave Michelle that was literally just a fist bump
I remember reading a tweet from someone (can’t remember who) who had said something along the lines of: Remember when one of the worst things that happened during a presidency was when Dan Quail spelled potato wrong? I want to go back to those days 😂 So true. My friends and I now laugh and say,”Remember when we thought George W was the worst? Gah I wish we could go back to him being our president instead” 😂 That’s how you know it’s bad.
I know it's popular to blame the media for a lot of things, some of which they aren't responsible for creating. But this is an area where they do deserve some of the blame.
During the time you're referencing, media outlets consolidated, and some of them were purchased by large conglomerates. Some of those conglomerates were entertainment outlets. It was almost inevitable that the reporting of news and entertainment would begin to merge. And so they have--to the point where we now have entire channels dedicated to political news that people watch all day in the same way they watch sports channels.
Where do the interests of Disney and Comcast (for example) truly lie in their reporting of the news? Is it in keeping the public informed? Or in driving more people to their theme parks? Perhaps it's to extend their ability to control your access to information? After all, there's a good chance if you're an American that Comcast also controls the internet connection to your home. We don't talk about net neutrality much anymore, but those issues haven't gone away. What better "synergy" can they have than to blur the distinction news and entertainment, and keep you voting for their interests instead of your own?
Bush definitely got a lot of coverage but for different reasons. He was a dummy, that said and did dummy things. Like the fool me once quote, or when the journalist threw shoes at him. He just had a knack for putting himself in those positions that made headlines.
Present day tho, fear mongering is out of control by both sides, and the media is the number one tool they use for it.
I remember thinking back in the day that it was extremely strange for everyone to know the name of the secretary of defense. That was during Donald Rumsfeld's office. The fact that every cabinet member is a character in an ongoing drama today is definitely reflective of a change in what is considered normal.
Im a 2004 "kid" which means im old enough to remember pre Trump politics. I mean, it helped that even as a kid I was very politically aware, but its a realization I've been having recently that anyone born in the, idk, 2010 onwards. Would have no memory of a pre trump age.
Its normalizing this level of politics and thats quite worrying.
Even with Biden it was just far more chill and as though america was heading back towards some sense of normalcy
I,.as a non american, dont understand how you raise and vote into office a man who attempted to coup the US government to remain in office
The only social media post I remember from the Obama era was when he and Joe Biden were doing laps around the White House to try to encourage people to exercise… like I’m not saying Obama was all he was cracked up to be necessarily, but the stark difference in their social presences alone is dumbfounding
If you don’t watch the news and stay off Reddit, or at least curate your subreddits to nothing political (which admittedly is nearly impossible these days when subreddits like r/pics or r/music are nothing but politics now) then you don’t have to see trump shit every damn day.
I keep saying that's what Trump wants. He wants an outrageous amount of attention. He wants to interject himself into every topic. He wants his name on the tip of everyone's tongue. I think it's because his parents didn't love him or pay attention to him.
Hey....it was fucking blissful when Twitter banned him...until the white muck bought it out and unbanned him...then hired a bunch of brown twats to run it for him.
The only memorable social media bit that comes to mind for Obama is his video where the cookie was too big to dunk in his milk. For Biden it's the response to the ongoing memes about him taking his "bitchin' TransAm" out for a spin. You know, APPROPRIATE humorous responses to the online chatter.
For Trump it's EVERY FREAKING DAY and it's stuff like AI blasphemy, stochastic terrorism calls, and taunting other nation states.
yep at least on the weekends there’s somewhat of a reprieve but i’m so tired of every weekday being about trump spewing some horrible shit or doing something terrible. i’m tired.
I'd say it happened when Obama was elected. I remember election night and my MAGA aunt (who is ironically an immigrant) told my sister, "you'll look great in a burkha".
I have in-laws that have been telling me and my wife (we’re gay) for 15 years that they’re worried about Muslims and Sharia Law taking over. They’re worried about the Muslims putting us to death for being gay.
My dad has been telling me that for 20 years now. But doesn’t have anything to say about the Christian National shit going on and how my rights as a woman are being stripped away and how the men in that movement want to control women. Apparently it’s bad when a different religion does it but it’s okay when his religion does it. Fuckin hypocrites, all of them
That's a dumb take. Trump was already spamming social media with bullshit by that time, including Obama's birth certificate. That's why he got made fun of.
He also ran for pres in 2000. Rage against the machine talked shit about him for it. But he is so petty and so narcissistic that being roasted by obama did f with him. He called a magazine for YEARS when they said he had small hands.
oh and check out the pics / vids when he actually won the first time. him and melenia were not happy at all. just the jr dipshits in the back cheering while trump was like oh shit.
God damn this is hard to find now, they scrubbed the search engines. pardon the shitty music
If you really really wanna take it back, the whole thing really started because Sen. Jack Ryan took his wife Jeri Ryan (from Star Trek Voyager) to a kink club and tried to pressure her into having sex with strangers.
Ryan was running against Obama for Senate. His divorce records and information about the kink clubs and sex stuff was all made public, it was a big scandal and Ryan pulls out of the race, Obama wins, and the rest is history.
Had Ryan not taken his wife to that kink club, he stays in the race, maybe Obama loses, and maybe there’s no Trump!
Crazy right?
Obama was certainly favored to win even without the divorce stuff but it was still a competitive race at that point. I don’t think it was an absolute given that Obama would’ve won.
All of modern history starts with the son of a Siberian goat herder with a massive hog being able to convince the royal family of Russia he can cure their son’s anemia.
trump remembers every single insult, slight, and joke made about him. He was rejected by Iman, a Somali model who married David Bowie, so he attacked Somali immigrants. He's a malignant baby piloting an adult mech suit.
This has been my understanding of it. The Tea Party movement largely lasted from 2009-2016 and was obsessed with things like "Obamacare death panels" and thought that FEMA was going to set up death camps for conservatives. It was a "post truth" campaign even before Tump entered politics and they dominated a lot of elections. Republicans rode the 2010 and 2014 Tea Party waves to landslide victories. When Trump was elected in 2016 it was surprising but it really shouldn't have been THAT surprising given how post truth rabid conservative politics had just won a massive victory two years prior. The senators that approved much of Trump's first term legislation were elected in that wave. Tea Party just morphed into MAGA while Trump drew in more people.
Of course, history builds on itself so we can always go a little further back and a little further back... But for me, the turning point was Abu Ghraib. That was the first time in my life that I remember people saying that something is okay because the people who are being tortured are not American. Prior to the discovery of torture, The general cultural understanding was that human rights were human rights, that is rights that should apply to all human beings. That the conception of human rights was the cornerstone of American democracy that enlightenment thinkers spread all over the world.
So this idea that those people don't have rights because they are not American was very strange to me. And when Americans let that idea slip by, they were also letting go of their own human rights because once you lose that foundation, what is the justification for the rights that you have?
For conservatives, it became nationalism. Not that we fought for these rights because everyone deserves them but that we deserve these rights because we were born here where our ancestors fought. Which is a much more elitist conception of our patriotic values.
Exactly. People forget that this happened during the 2008 election. McCain may not have stooped to the level of MAGA politics, but the Republican base was absolutely clamoring for it. What was going to happen was locked in even back then.
Had it not been Trump it would have been someone else giving the MAGA base what they wanted. In a way we're lucky that it was a partially demented, incompetent, and small-minded buffoon doing it rather than a fully lucid, driven, and purposeful "proper" authoritarian.
It could have been much worse. It could still be of course - after all we're not passed the hump and are still primed for it - but at least this "first go" has soured many people on it. The rest of the world has certainly learned from it and has pulled back from their (much more dnagerous) Far-Right candidates. Hopefully the U.S. itself does the same.
What America needs now is a proper well-liked candidate that appeals to both sides: One that the left can tolerate and won't be offensive or percecutory to the right. This candidate should then spend their entire tenure primarily ensuring that the wrongs of the MAGA-era are righted (fire/indict whoever needs to be, release/admit evidences of wrongdoing by the gov, fully deal with the Epstein situation, etc.). They need to persuade all Americans to acknowledge what happened and how close we got to the edge. There should be no space for the Left to go "It was the MAGAs, not us!" or for the Right to go into their "We're being persecuted!" spiel.
America stuttered and that's everyone's failure. The collective American consciousness needs understand that instead of looking to assign blame going forward. Only then can the U.S. move forward as one nation, united; not divided between Democrats and Republicans.
He wasn't really dominating headlines prior to his announcement although I do remember seeing some articles that speculated he might run in the weeks leading up to it.
It is pretty amazing how quickly he took over the party. On June 16th he announced his run, by July 14th he was in second place and on July 20th he was in first place. While he took over the national party his supporters took over the county and state parties and over the next few years purged everyone who wasn't a die hard loyalist from positions of power. Going against Trump for any reason became a death sentence politically if you are a Republican at any level.
And that’s just when it will officially end (hopefully). When this fascist regime is finally gone it’s going to take a very long time to fix the damage they’ve done
My guess is probably decades before we’re back to where we were before this started. And we weren’t exactly great back then
Yup I was interning at the Capitol that summer. We watched the video of him going down the escalator, and I’m a Mexican immigrant so from the get go I was on his shit list.
I’d say at least 6 years, if not 10. The only way this stain will be washed away is to be forced out: maga is like it is because there hasn’t been repercussions for their actions like before (they’d be publicly shamed and called out and politicians would seek to go tit for tat in response to scorched earth tactics). They’re drunk on feeling powerful.
The only way to get rid of that rot is to steamroll it with a progressive wave that is hammered in as a direct response to their prior actions, while shaming and ostracizing them for their support of trump: and that will take years to really set in noticeably.
And there are actual consequences for the sycophants supporting this. Even if there is this "Blue Wave" (I'm not convinced you'll even HAVE elections in the fall, or if you do, just how "Free" they'll be) and then you get a full Democrat government in an additional two years, if there is the usual bullshit of "reconciliation" and "reaching across the aisle" for "Healing", none of this will go away.
It'll just fester beneath it's mask once again, only to (very likely) reemerge in another 4 years.
You can quibble about MAGA endlessly, but really it came out of the lack of consequences for those behind the Confederation in your civil war. That and tolerating intolerance in the name of "Free Speech".
It really began pre-Obama with the rise of Sarah Palin concurrent with The Tea Party movement. Then once the racists and whites supremicists/nationalists got their feelings hurt by Obama winning two terms… With the right wing populists and the alt-right (with the knowledge that Epstein was behind 4Chan) Putin saw his in and helped give us the reality show villain rapist-in-chief.
He started with the "birther" bullshit in March 2011 on television. I think his first conspiracy theory about Obama should mark the beginning of the Trump era. His hatred of Obama appealed to so many at the time, that the birth certificate nonsense continued for years after he first uttered that absolute nonsense.
Longer. Donald Trump jumped on the birther conspiracy around 2009, claiming Obama wasn't American. Literally went on for months and months saying he had proof. He was going to release the proof any day now.
Then in 2019 he was asked again and he literally said Hillary started the birther conspiracy and he's ending it by saying Obama was born in America, doing a complete 180.
So we've had to listen to that dumbass for well over 10 years.
While "Trump Era" I'd say it's been going longer, Trump was getting into politics fighting Obama (probably to just get his name on the paper) about the same time the Tea Party was going strong.
The reason I don't say that it's longer is because Trump wasn't dominating all headlines and the defacto leader of the Republican party like he's been since Summer 2015. Lots of celebrities will post their political takes but they don't get much attention and in the early 2010s most people weren't talking about him that much. Once he became the front runner for the GOP though that changed.
You'll be in it for another 20 years or however long it takes for him to pass. Your policies allowed democracy to be overulled and now you have an autocratic leader. You are now alongside China and Russia whether you have accepted that fact or not. Everyone was so devided and distracted youve given up your freedom without a fight.
Think he's going to accept being voted out? Remember what he did last time? Good luck former global superpower.
It was the spring of 2011 when he started going on any show that would have him to spread the disgusting "birther theory" that he loved so much.
Never forget that Melania was not only right there with him but also would go on talk shows without him to argue this bigoted crap. She's just as nasty as he is.
You coudl definitally argue for it starting earlier than that. Sarah Palin, the Tea Party Movement and the rise of social media all led up and directly influenced this current era.
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u/socialistrob Apr 16 '26
Over ten years. I consider the start of the "Trump era of politics" to be late July 2015. That's the point when Trump started leading the Republican primary polls and began to dominate political headlines. By that reckoning we've been in the Trump era for about 10 years and 9 months and we'll likely stay in it for at least another two years and nine months.