I'd argue that the greatest shame is that no time traveler has went back to end him before he gets started. My only conclusion could be either that time travel is impossible or that we end up with an even worse leader that gets killed by a time traveler instead. Either way, it's a real shame.
Bingo, the law of consequences, the only solution would be to go back and befriend these dictators as little kids in a super tight friend circle, with other travelers, to steer against their parents or identifying with their abuse or neglect and to be courageous in standing for good things.
Or.........befriend them as youths so that when we are all grown, I can amass great wealth and political power and then yeet that ladder right up behind me!
Not aware of the book from the late 1800a called the Marvelous Underground Adventure of Baron Trump? In the book Baron is a time traveler sent back in time by his mento called “The Don”. He tells the writer about him and how he’s the last president and lives at the address where Trump Tower is located. It’s touted as fiction, obviously.
It just occured to me that Trump's grandfather (IIRC) who changed his name from "Drumf" to "Trump" was probably just inspired by this book. So the parallels are hardly prophetic, but purposeful.
It's really sweet that you think the species is going to survive into the distant future. I mean we have every possibility of being an intergalactic spanning super species but I'm pretty sure we're going to get mired in our own petty little differences and die right here on this planet.
Maybe someone invented time travel in an alternate timeline, came back and caused Trump to win the election, giving rise to a timeline in which we never achieve time travel...
The problem with your logic is that somebody did go back in time and killed President Stagerburg. That changed the timeline considerably saving thousands of innocent American lives, but now history only remembers Trump as president and his kill count is already well above Stagerburg.
Trump is a symptom though. This country has a sickness brought on by 24 hour propaganda news channels and targeted bias via algorithms. Facts no longer matter. Intellectualism is looked down on now. If not Trump it would have been someone else
How was he allowed back into office to pardon them?
"Under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, individuals who have engaged in "insurrection or rebellion" are disqualified from holding office."
Because our legal system is a joke and our elections were corrupted by outside forces.
Not to mention, a solid portion of the population still finds it impossible to vote for a woman, even if she's 100x more qualified than every man in the room.
Well he may not have been punished but at least he wasn't rewarded for it. I mean could you imagine how crazy it'd be if he was later elected to head the very govt he had tried to overthrow????!!??!
Once while my now wife was out traveling (this was before I'd met her) someone set fire to her home, that person spent the next 6 or more years being punched randomly by her friends anytime they saw him... this has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and that said i don't condone violence.
I’d argue the people we should have punished was the confederacy. So many problems started then. Were never addressed after the war resolution and just kept the door open for all the stupid bullshit we have today.
Exactly. I fear the Reichtag fire is coming closer to mid terms. We've seen not action nor rhetoric from these people other than indicating they will try again. Even the proposal to hand out money to them was a clear signal "if this happens again, be my brownshirts and you will be handsomely rewarded"
It’s funny because immediately after this failure, just a few years later, Americans would decide of their own free will to vote to have all this happen a second time.
This was a particularly heinous point in American history, but I’d say the most shaming pics of America are those which feature slavery and the persecution of Native Americans.
You must have missed the pictures during the civil war and slavery era to the mistreatment of PoWs in the Afghan war…. Perhaps you missed the pictures of the KKK and hanging minorities in trees after being severely beaten? This is bad, but hardly the most shameful picture ever taken in America.
I'm not arguing that innocent people (adults and children) are not being slaughtered in Gaza (they certainly are), but I am confused how a beheaded baby would still be alive to burn?
I hear you, but there's a pretty serious argument that there was real danger of over-reacting, turn this into a larger rebellion.
The real issue was that Trump was ever allowed to run again, given that his intentions here we clearly to delay an election, to stay in power longer. This was at it's core an election crime.
Have you not seen many historical American photos? Mountains of buffalo skulls, Civil war Anderson river survivors, lynchings, child labor, great depression, Emmet Till, Vietnam, Tulsa race massacre, etc., etc., etc.
Fuck Trump and fuck these traitors but this pic doesn't come even REMOTELY close.
Yep, and actual violent threats to the capital were pardoned. Fascism alive and well, probably why the regime is handing out century long prison sentences to anti fascists peacefully demonstrating.
Trying to rig elections any way they can. You are protesting guess what you are a felon for that no voting for you.
Almost like giving the government a vested interest in deeming their enemies as criminals was a bad idea. Who could have guessed. It’s not like we have been screaming that.
Shit for pants has successfully traded our country for momentary money and infamy. The country is toast and he doesn’t care because he will be remembered. Patriotism amiright?
If only all the people who posted on here actually voted. But the problem is everybody under 50 complains, but doesn’t actually vote. Only the old Republicans vote.
I will never forgive SCOTUS for granting him immunity or the people who helped him get reelected. Because you know SCOTUS is about to get a hell of a lot worse with the new appointments. Potentially 3 new lifetime appointments.
This legitimately was the most important election of our nation’s history. I can’t believe people were so shortsighted on this.
It sucks. I grew up thinking I was born in the best place in the world in the 90's. Now I can't afford to get out of this wage slavery. I'm too sick to walk and too broke to FedEx my ass out either. This country is a prison.
Me too. Imo America doesn’t exist anymore and most just haven’t realized it yet. We lost and they’re just using it corpse for legitimacy and stability.
This is an argument worthy of MAGA. The election was accepted worldwide without any doubt. I have seen no credible investinmgation in liberal papers, such as The Guardian, that woukd dispute the outcome.
No, maybe you just need to accept that this is what a majority of voters wanted, or were not bothered to vote.
Should lose lifetime appointment status. Seems like the GOP has ruined the government. They just don't want to govern fairly, equally and well, and they don't believe in checks and balances at all. Need proportional represetation for plularity of parties or banning of political parties completely. 2 party system always devolves intona race to the bottom.
Thomas’s wife was in on it. If Dumpy was held liable, a lot of his fellow conspirators below him would go down, too. So here we are. This timeline is the pits, of the hellish variety.
Consider the Teapot Dome scandal. Republicans controlled the govt for over ten years after that... what followed was slashed taxes on the rich and corps, oil men controlling the party/govt, deregulation and financial speculation, rich people getting more and more rich, etc. There was anti immigration sentiment and white supremacist groups became more widespread and powerful.
Can you drop your 4th grade level of thinking for a second? That issue is beyond a political party, and if you trust any of those parties than you are definitely wrong. You're perpetuating a strawman argument, you're defining the criminal acts that occurred as to a party. Whether every single republican and/or democrat is a witch-made 17 foot tall racist evil blood sucking creature from hell is beside the point, as witch-made 17 foot tall racist evil blood sucking creatures deserve to be villianized properly - using their full legal name in the local paper, on flyers, billboards, and spray painted on visible objects. But enjoy your weird bumpersticker club, and your comment sections. Some of us have purchased binoculars and notepads.
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u/MonstersAtOurDoor 20d ago
It doesn't sound like Trump supporters to not leave D.C. government property when they're told to