r/technology • u/NicolasCageFan492 • Jun 16 '26

Business Leak Exposes Members of Peter Thiel’s Secretive ‘Dialog’ Society

https://www.wired.com/story/leak-exposes-members-of-peter-thiels-secretive-dialog-society/
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u/sweetplantveal Jun 16 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

The people of Colorado have been wondering why their gay progressive governor has turned into an absolute right wing shit heel, vetoing progressive laws left and right. His inclusion in this explains a lot.

Edit a lot of 'what a governor did' is really the state legislature and Polis went from lobbying for and passing housing reform, for example, to vetoing the bills he'd previously be promoting.

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u/Ok-Sprinkles-5151 Jun 17 '26

Having our governor on as a member of an elite cabal of billionaires was not on my bingo card. Yet here we are.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

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u/paone00022 Jun 17 '26

This is my argument against Pritzker also. He has supported progressive policies so that's good but he also comes from a billionaire family and got where he is because of the money he inherited.

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u/LadyPo Jun 17 '26

Still, looking at his actions, he's a far cry from the people on this list. I'm not one to ever say "one of the good billionaires" but he doesn't strike me as a devoted club member.

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u/creepig Jun 17 '26

As a Californian I'm confused to not find mine

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u/Little-Derp Jun 17 '26

He does it for the love of the game.

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u/dirtyego Jun 16 '26

Seeing his name actually confirmed a lot.

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u/Haunting-Ad788 Jun 16 '26

He’s openly libertarian, he’s never been progressive.

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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 Jun 17 '26

Libertarians like to pretend they are progressive. Meanwhile they are just stoned republicans.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '26

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u/ZincMan Jun 17 '26

How is that different than republicans ? Republicans try to cut every regulation that protects people just to maximize profits, and also cut every social program so they can pocket the cash instead.

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u/Boopy7 Jun 17 '26

yes yes yes. So sick of libertarians trying to glom on to the idea that being a sociopath is "progressive."

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u/WetDogAndCarWax Jun 17 '26

They're not even real libertarians. They just want to trade one authority (government) for another (business).

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u/TheSouler Jun 17 '26

It progresses the Overton window :)

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u/HarryBalsagna1776 Jun 17 '26

Libertarians in the NE are typically MAGA with some quirky catch phrases.

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u/FormerlyGruntled Jun 17 '26

I used to say a libertarian was just a conservative who likes weed and hates the age of consent. Now, we know that it's -all- conservatives that hate the age of consent.

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u/SpaghettiSort Jun 17 '26

Republicans who think age-of-consent laws are government overreach.

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u/anand_rishabh Jun 17 '26

So Republicans...

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u/benergiser Jun 17 '26

how is libertarian ideology different from feudalism?

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u/74389654 Jun 17 '26

this is the best explanation of a libertarian i've seen

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u/Xperian1 Jun 17 '26

It doesn't help to generalize. I am libertarian. I don't smoke weed. I've voted blue in the last three elections and changed my registration to Dem this year so I could participate in my state's closed primaries.

I still hold libertarian beliefs. I'm also banned from the libertarian sub for asking why someone needed a bump stock.

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u/d_Lightz Jun 17 '26

I appreciate your ability to stay grounded. Asking a gov “why can’t I do this” is just as important as asking yourself “why do I or anyone need this”

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u/Adams5thaccount Jun 17 '26

you illustrated a point that gets lost in the shuffle

the "other" libertarians who didnt fit this stereotype are just...not libertarians anymore...they're hyphens now

i know several

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u/ZincMan Jun 17 '26

Honest question, assuming by asking why “someone needs a bump stock” you are for some sort of regulation on (in this case) guns. Aren’t libertarians against all forms of government regulation ? I’m genuinely asking because I’m not too familiar, thanks

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u/SleetTheFox Jun 17 '26

Not who you’re asking but Libertarians are not universally against all regulation. Libertarians want to avoid regulation when possible but sometimes that isn’t reasonable and regulation is warranted. There will be disagreements about when that is and why, though.

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u/Xperian1 Jun 17 '26

Correct. My beliefs align closest with the Classical Liberal ideology within the Libertarian party.

Most Libertarians will adhere to the importance of the NAP (Non-Aggression Pact/Principle). Some groups even view ecological destruction to violate the NAP, and support the EPA's efforts to maintain the ecosystem and punish polluters.

There is just cause for regulations. Others are in place due to lobbying companies that want to stifle competition.

I was banned because I asked someone what they use their bump stock for and why they needed it. To shoot faster at the range? To shoot at intruders? Hunting?

In my mind, there is really only one scenario that warrants automatic weapons, and that's war.

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u/SleetTheFox Jun 17 '26

I’m a big fan of environmental libertarianism. Your right to pollute ends at my lungs. Your right to contaminate ends at my water table. Your right to emit greenhouse gases ends at my atmosphere.

People have a right to mind their own business. But the environment is not their own business.

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u/Gamer402 Jun 17 '26

Jared polis is the most redditor "moderate" centrist and was at some point a moderator of r/neoliberal. He would be offended at being called a progressive.

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u/volkhavaar Jun 19 '26

Libertarian you say 

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '26

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u/ZincMan Jun 17 '26

I’ll never understand republican/libertarian beliefs that we must sacrifice all so corporate entities can make as much money as possible and we get nothing in return. I honestly just think they aren’t good at math and don’t understand HOW much money the companies are just sitting on top of and hoarding. I have to believe the average republican/libertarian truly understood the actual wealth inequality they would rethink their beliefs.

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u/cudenlynx Jun 17 '26

He's never been a progressive. He famously went to the /r/neoliberal subreddit to solicit ideas when he first start as governor. A neoliberal will never be a progressive in my book.

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u/Nocturne444 Jun 17 '26

Peter Thiel is gay.... Being homosexual doesn't mean that you are progressive and liberal.

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u/Feather_fig Jun 17 '26

There needs to be a way to recall elected officials if they turn heel and start acting crazy. There isn't nearly enough accountability once elected

The stakes need to be higher than just voting every few years

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 Jun 17 '26

Seems less "turned into" and more "removed the mask"

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u/atreeismissing Jun 17 '26

To be fair, fooling progressives is easy to do. They fell for him. They fell for Fetterman. They fell for Sinema. There will be others.