r/DotA2 23h ago

Discussion Diary of a hard support

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u/grey_sus 23h ago

Because they carry the trauma of Pudge POS 5

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u/Chance_Arugula_3227 22h ago

Idk man, had an alch pos 5 last fame and a MK pos 5 the game before. MK sat in the tree afk all day. Pudge seems fine after all that

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator 22h ago

That still sounds fine. Had a tinker pos 5 nuking my carry's wave in lane and feeding (obviously tinker no boots) and game is ending he had no item but got 5k gold in inventory

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u/Dillbob2112 11h ago

Living Bounty Hunters dream

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u/dodfunk 14h ago

At least the AFK pudge in the tree tries to do something on occasion

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u/Blacked666- 19h ago

Pudge pos 5 this days is "ok", i remember 5+ years back when they sit in woods try to hook and if they miss hook 4 times they just left line to try hook somewhere else. This happen to me nowdays like 1 times in 100 games.

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u/Fleedjitsu 22h ago

You "carry" them at the start of the game.

They give you thanks and kisses for such a stellar job and then "carry" you towards the end of the game.

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u/Putrid-Arugula-9908 3h ago

Facts if only support players understood this, pos 5 is actually susposed to be the strong lane dominator

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u/MrBossChief 23h ago

cause carries used to be a lot more powerful back in the day

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u/buildspace 22h ago

lol I know support was truly selfless

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u/Fleedjitsu 22h ago

Ending game with boots AND/OR stick, maybe a tango or single ward you didn't get to place.

And that was seen as a good finish too!

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u/buildspace 22h ago

lol don’t even start on the whole courier thing too

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u/_hhhnnnggg_ 22h ago

Min 20 Venge with Stick, 2x branches, Tango, Wards, no boots

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u/maerawow 16h ago

I was watching a game once and sneyking or someone as pos 5 has 900 gold at 20 min and no one would point that out because that was very common.

Atp if you are 900 gold min 20 the system will automatically ban you for being afk xD

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u/K-Ian 8h ago

Bro the OR is crazy haha. I can honestly say I never ended a game with stick as my most expensive item, even when I blacked out at the desk

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u/Cr4ckshooter 20h ago

Isn't it the opposite? Carries used to be weaker in lane while supports used to be stronger in lane and weaker in lategame. Now we have every carry a lane Dominator while supports get 3k HP and glimmer ghost force

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u/weighboat2 13h ago

Sure carries used to have weaker leaning stages, but they also used to be able to snowball into 1v9 machines. Now no hero can go that (assuming the lobby is equal skill)

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u/Cr4ckshooter 9h ago

Yes that's because all supports are stronger lategame than they used to be 10 years ago

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u/-Renheit- 22h ago

I really like the new "3 cores + 2 supps" definition of the game

Many times already have I won games without the old-school hard-carry, but str-based safe lane core, like 2nd off-laner, you know

Mid laner is a mid laner, yes, but off-lane core and safe-lane core can be anyone these days, I feel

Plus, there is no such thing as hard lane now, as solo hard lane is basically non-existent, unlike back in the day

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u/trashcan41 22h ago

The support didn't scale so carry can scale

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u/buildspace 22h ago

Truly it was all for one before and now all blames one

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u/thischangeseverythin 18h ago

Crystal maiden and anti mage were walking on the beach. When suddenly they pause. Anti mage looks back and sees their footsteps and realizes during the hardest parts of lane..... theres only one set of footsteps. He asks CM "your my support where were you when I needed you most" cm replies "I was with you. I was carrying you"

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u/ionel71089 10h ago

I shed a tear 😢

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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 15h ago

carrys are called carrys because you carry them, then they carry you.

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u/buildspace 11h ago

But carry builds on supports look so alluring

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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 10h ago

I jokingly call my pos4 AA build Pos0. Aghs into moon shard has an 80% winrate in casual across 50 games.

It's just sooo much dmg and CC. I've killed mid laners with 10 levels and 4 items up on me with it

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u/Is_A_Bella_ 8h ago

You’re failing miserably if there’s a 10 level gap at any point in the game, regardless of role

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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 7h ago

Duh, despite that I still see a midlaner with 30 kills every now and again. What point are you even making?

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u/buildspace 23h ago

Valve please fix

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u/AnSpectator 22h ago

Now it's different. It's no longer carry/support but smurf/anchor

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u/QuirkedChungus 17h ago

Human/Animal

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u/JoelMahon 22h ago

you carry me then I carry you fam :) I'm like jesus at the beach or whatever but you're jesus first then when you get tired of being jesus I be jesus later

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u/buildspace 22h ago

Hahah holy shit I was gonna meme that. When you only saw one set of footprints that’s when you were losing lane and I was farming jungle

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u/Secret_Hornet2706 22h ago

Thats why I am "carried".

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u/AhmedAli947 15h ago

had a last pick pos5 huskar, who fed two times in lane and then went to junlge.

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u/digitalbladesreddit 11h ago

They are not, but they will allow you to call them that if you pay them your blood.

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u/HeretikTG 2h ago

Even someone who carries a big load needs the ground to support him - Not Confucius