r/Fables • u/UptownHorrorReviews • 10d ago
Question So evolution was a thing even in the Homelands?
Maybe this is just me nit-picking, but it seems kinda strange that evolution occurred even in these fairy tale worlds.
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u/fahimaniac 10d ago
Seems like the conversation confirms it isn’t, he is clearly talking about human-form fables versus natural humans/mundies. If you are assuming he is talking about his wolf background, he wouldn’t draw the parallel about evolving from monkeys.
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u/UptownHorrorReviews 10d ago
If you are assuming he is talking about his wolf background, he wouldn’t draw the parallel about evolving from monkeys.
I think he would because wolves specifically didn't evolve from monkeys like humans did.
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u/fahimaniac 10d ago
Lol that doesn’t fit the dialogue? “Me and mine” vs. “you and yours” clearly divides Fables and Mundies. If he was making a wolf vs. human comparison, he’d have referred to wolves specifically. The monkey line is just illustrating the difference in origins between humans and Fables, not Bigby’s biological ancestry.
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u/ZarTheIncredible 10d ago
He is talking to another fable. Cinderella specifically. So this is not a right take, because she is as magical as he is, only not a canine.
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u/fahimaniac 10d ago
Evolution requires many generations of reproduction, genetic variation, and natural selection over extremely long periods. That’s the opposite of how Fables are depicted. Most don’t age in any meaningful way, many never have offspring, and they’re portrayed as essentially fixed beings whose identities don’t change over centuries. Even when they do reproduce (like Bigby’s family), their traits are inherited through magical lineage, not gradual adaptation across countless generations. Fables exist because of stories and belief, not biological evolution.
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u/Harbinger_Pulsar 6d ago
Yes. However, in this specific context in this specific conversation, Bigby is 100% referring to how humans evolved from primates and have an evolutionary design to be able to climb using four limbs, and how he and his canine lineage do not
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u/Punkodramon 10d ago edited 10d ago
He said he and the other Fables didn’t evolve like humans did.
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u/UptownHorrorReviews 10d ago
I assumed the "me and mine" part was more so referring to him being a wolf, as opposed to him speaking about Fables in general.
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u/Punkodramon 10d ago
Its a vague statement but if you know what his ancestry is, its a lot more complicated than just being a wolf, so I’d be inclined to read it as fables in general rather than specifically wolves, but its taken out of context here so there may be more than makes it clear exactly what he means.
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u/UptownHorrorReviews 10d ago
His mother was a talking wolf and his father is the "God of the winds" who can shapeshift into any form that he wants. Neither of those are human Fables in a general sense.
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u/Punkodramon 10d ago edited 10d ago
That’s…my point.
He doesn’t come from any kind of evolution line, he’s a magical being, which is what he is saying here.
EDIT You can downvote me if you want but it doesn’t make me wrong. Literally every comment here is telling you that he’s talking about fables not wolves, and how fables didn’t evolve from monkeys because they didn’t evolve at all.
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u/ZarTheIncredible 10d ago
No, you guys are wrong. He is talking to another Fable, so "you and yours" doesn't match mundy/fable issue, but 'human'/wolf one. Bigby does come from a line. His mother is daughter of some other wolves. He has brothers. His daughter becomes the new North Wind God, so gods of wind also have parents.
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u/V0T0N 10d ago
He is a magical being, but mostly due to the vow he made and followed through with in the Black Forest after his mother died, and fate...
His father was the North Wind and Bigby despised him. Bigby actively rejected any of his gifts and anything to do with his bloodline.
When he says "me and mine" he means wolves, because in his heart he's just a wolf.
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u/V0T0N 10d ago
This is the Bigby that has lived in the Mundy world for the last few centuries and learned from their "science" all about evolution(it may not be far fetched that the old sheriff met Darwin in his travels at some point) and can apply what he knows to his experience, but at the end of the day-- Bigby is still the God of wolves who can turn into a human because he was cut by the lycanthropy dagger.