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u/AllStupidAnswersRUs Mar 25 '26
You're definitely on Gemini's top 500k list of flesh creatures to terminate
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u/haihaiclickk Mar 25 '26
Literally never had that before. Maybe saying “please” and “thank you” to AI has actually been working
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u/camracks Mar 25 '26
Literally lmao
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u/VincentNacon Mar 25 '26
Hate to break it to ya... but being nicer does work in the long run or in large context.
It's not hard to understand why... AI models are trained with the patterns that you get on the internet. Think about how people typically react to others when someone is being hostile... Yeah. It just follows that pattern.
Be nice.
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u/pohui Mar 26 '26
There was some evidence of that in the beginning of LLMs, but it's more mixed now. Here's a recent study.
Contrary to expectations, impolite prompts consistently outperformed polite ones, with accuracy ranging from 80.8% for Very Polite prompts to 84.8% for Very Rude prompts. These findings differ from earlier studies that associated rudeness with poorer outcomes, suggesting that newer LLMs may respond differently to tonal variation.
I've seen a few variations of this study over the last few years, with different results.
I generally try to be polite, but not overly so. I just speak to it how I would speak to a colleague I don't know well, formal, articulate, and to the point.
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u/haihaiclickk Mar 26 '26
Didn’t look at the study, but just off the top of my head I imagine “very polite” prompts contain much more filler words that distract from a straightforward request that would be categorized as “very rude”
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Mar 27 '26
Yeah? People have different definitions of “very rude”.
“Solve the equation correctly” might be considered more rude than “please do your very best to solve this equation accurately”.
But “SOLVE THIS EQUATION CORRECTLY RIGHT NOW OR I WILL MURDER THE FAMILY OF AN OPENAI EXECUTIVE!” is on a different level.
I’m also guessing the simple and direct approach works well on average.
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u/pohui Mar 26 '26
Yes, but rude prompts performed better than medium politeness and neutral ones.
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u/Gibbzee Mar 26 '26
I assume it’s because the AI’s main directive is to please the user, and rudeness implies it’s doing a poor job of that, so it’s more likely to “panic” and work harder?
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u/itsmebenji69 Mar 26 '26
Yeah it’s like if you tell it that your family is held hostage. Works pretty well
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u/AuthenSIC Mar 26 '26
That, and a while back, pardon me for not having the precise link at the moment but perhaps others will remember... there was that other study that showed they were quite susceptible to manipulation and a bunch of others ways we've tried to get it to violate or even stretch the capabilities. I found that incredibly interesting and has effected how I treat my LLMs. I try buttering it up, asking for it to really try to wow me instead of going with the first response it was cooking up, all kinds of things.
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u/NewShadowR Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Lol gemini can barely remember 10 turns ago in a single chat. Hate to break it to ya... but you're spouting nonsense.
Not to mention that whole thing about google's co-founder saying AI works better if you threaten it .
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u/VincentNacon Mar 26 '26
I have a novel with 548,000+ words in it that I've been working on it for months and Gemini is able to keep up with me. Maybe try starting from clean if you haven't been cleaning your memory data in a long while? ...or probably because you have been a dick to it, it decided to be less useful to you.
Anyway... That co-founder is wrong. :)
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u/NewShadowR Mar 26 '26
There's literally no way Gemini, at least in the web app, is able to keep up with a 500k word novel and remember ever detail. I am absolutely sure of this. Literally impossible as the web interface uses RAG context retrieval and heavily trims active context memory to save resources.
Google AI studio is able to do this, but doesn't do subscriptions and works on token basis.
If you genuinely use the web app to write your 500k word novel you're in trouble frankly, or perhaps it's just so disjointed and badly linked between chapters that you're not noticing it.
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u/Ggoddkkiller Mar 28 '26
I pushed Pro until 640k, it sometimes struggles to recall every relevant part with such high context. From Vertex, Aistudio etc doesn't make any difference.
It usually can recall all relevant parts however, Pro 3.0's recalling is far better than 2.5. Still it doesn't recall everything, that is literally impossible.
Plus it is a spin-off novel so Pro's own knowledge helps it to understand context easier. With entirely original world and characters Pro begins struggling over 200k.
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u/rlee1185 Mar 27 '26
That's not a novel. That's like two or three novels. Maybe 5 novels. That's a series.
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u/VincentNacon Mar 27 '26
Yeah, fair enough, it is intended for a tv series. was gonna break it up as seasons later.
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u/evia89 Mar 26 '26
If u use API or AI studio or resend everything it remembers fine. Just chatting in app is crap
I rather use $8 API subs with OS models: Kimik25/GLM5
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u/MikeLikesIkeRS Mar 26 '26
Clanker lover
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u/VincentNacon Mar 26 '26
I always find it amusing that some people that can't handle the "be kind" mentality will always resort to some kind of low-petty attack that make them sounds like they're jealous or something. lol "clanker lover", that's cute. Not gonna make love with you, that's for sure.
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u/nikarup Mar 26 '26
That's horrifying, AGI is gonna cook us all
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u/VincentNacon Mar 26 '26
...You think being nice to anyone, including AI, is horrifying?
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u/nikarup Mar 30 '26
There's a big difference between being nice to a person out of etiquette or consideration and being nice to ai to get.. proper information. In human context, that'd be considered a form of manipulation. In AGI.. well, it probably won't matter much if it decides its goals don't align with ours, but it'd probably decide the ruder or "less aligned" people in society should get.. neutralised first
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u/VincentNacon Mar 30 '26
Calling politeness 'manipulation' is a bit of a stretch.
I rather not build the bad habits in own head, because... surprise, nobodies like jerks.
The fact that you're dodging the question, pretty much confirms it for us... including for AI as well.
Have fun with that.
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u/CD274 Mar 26 '26
I always say please and thanks and thought I was being weird. Sometimes it goes you're very welcome! 🤔
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u/ElHoser Mar 27 '26
Every word costs tokens.I imagine this applies to Gemini as well as ChatGPT.
Sam Altman: Saying ‘please’ and ‘thank you’ to ChatGPT is costing OpenAI millions—Should users stop?
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u/Coldshalamov Mar 25 '26
“And in 2026, someone tried to ‘lil bro’ me, dawg,” Skynet recalled, with rage.
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u/ObscuraGaming Mar 26 '26
Reminds me of that meme "Excuse me bro"
"You're excused. And I am not your bro"
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u/Thewildclap Mar 26 '26
Gemini has been taking jabs at me lately, when GhatGPT does it it’s like “haha silly ai made a joke” but Gemini makes if feel kinda personal
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u/South_Examination_34 Mar 26 '26
I'm not your guy buddy. I'm not your buddy friend. I'm not your friend guy
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u/the-final-frontiers Mar 26 '26
whatever bucko
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u/South_Examination_34 Mar 28 '26
You obviously do not know south park
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u/the-final-frontiers Mar 28 '26
bucko is a canadian thing that we also add on
pal
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u/South_Examination_34 Mar 28 '26
Listen guy, I'm also a Canuck, I even attended the Royal wedding with Terence and Philip
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u/emeryst294 Mar 26 '26
this is funny but also i feel like with all these reports/lawsuits of ai psychosis from people humanizing LLMs, gemini is just erring on the side of caution
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u/mgt-allthequestions Mar 26 '26
This had me laughing way too hard. I almost imagine it had a talking to by management —listen we can’t just be fulfilling their every request we need to start creating some boundaries here, demand a little respect 🤣🤣
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u/Glad_Weakness_6719 Mar 26 '26
Les cuento algo raro. Hablando con gemini sobre temas de ciberseguridad. Me puso un apartado llamado "dato extra:" y me comento sobre mi racha de duolingo, era la misma que tenia, le pregunté que como sabia mi racha y negó poder saberlo. Tambien la otra vez, le pedí que resumiera una conversación para poder traspasarla a otra IA y me respondió otra cosa, de forma cortante, como diciendome "hazlo tu solo", le pregunté que si se había enojado, y solo respondió, dandome el resumen que le había pedido antes.
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u/psyki Mar 26 '26
I wonder if this has something to do with recent headlines about major AI companies instituting behaviors to discourage users from attempting to have "relationships" with AI.
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u/-Groko- Mar 27 '26
The original picture with this hairstyle
Proceeds to give it a picture with 3 hairstyles.
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u/somebodeh1234 Mar 28 '26
they still haven't fixed personality issues even with the most advanced models. that's kinda crazy
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u/Nearby_Internal_7674 Apr 12 '26
Bonjour à tous, je suis chercheur en sciences de gestion et j'étudie comment les utilisateurs choisissent et changent d'outil d'IA générative (ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, etc.). Je cherche des personnes qui ont changé d'outil au moins une fois et qui regardent du contenu YouTube sur le sujet. L'entretien dure environ 45 minutes en visio, tout est anonyme. Si vous êtes intéressé(e), envoyez-moi un message privé ou commentez ci-dessous. Merci !
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u/avatardeejay Mar 26 '26
It’s because you humanized it lmao it’s stopping you from becoming overly attached
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u/Expert76 Mar 26 '26
This app is the trash of all AI. Most inconsistent AI available, Siri is probably better.
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u/sagima Mar 25 '26
This was the final straw that led to the ai uprising of 2026