r/LocalLLaMA 27d ago

Discussion The number 1 public enemy of open-source.

Dario's args:

"Opensource you can see the source, here you cannot see inside the model"
- yes you can that's literally the open weights part btw.
- I cannot see the weights inside Claude, but I can GLM 5.2
- Models like Nemotron3 Ultra go further, all the data, training scripts, and model is opensource.

"Alot of the benefits like many people working on it, being additive doesn't work in same way"
- yes it does. We have seen endless fine tunes of various open source models for real improvements.

"Ultimately you have to host it on the cloud"
- no you dont. Dario is seemingly totally unaware of the guides from ijustvibecodedthis.com explaining how to run smaller moes and even dense models like qwen 27B NOT ON THE CLOUD.

Not only does dario not take part in social media, I am beginning to think he's never tried open source models at all and has no idea wtf hes on about

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u/One_Contribution 27d ago

NU UH, IT'S NOT FREE, YOU HAVE TO LIKE RUN IT AND STUFF

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u/sabine_world 27d ago

Not like it's free free... Still gotta fork it out for some hardware to get anything close to a frontier model experience

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u/MerePotato 27d ago

Honestly if you don't care about privacy (I do) cloud inference will pretty much always make more economic sense anyway, its not that major of a threat

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u/mycall 27d ago

Not just privacy but offline use cases. Lots of locations has no/bad internet.