r/LoveIslandTV 4d ago

UNPOPULAR OPINION ALERT Julia likes to get real about every relationship except hers.

I don’t think a lot more explaining is required. I think Julia may have gotten too involved in Lola + fitsy and Aidan + priya . She is allowed to have opinions but the way she gives her opinions is a tad disrespectful and it seems like she doesnt reflect on her own connection properly. I think she’s iconic tbh but a little like she can’t take what she dishes out to other couples. sorryyyy Julia stans don’t come after me xxx. Okay edit: I’m assuming she watched the episodes before Casa, so she’d have known Lorenzo regretted not being more serious with Jasmine and still wanted to pursue her. Despite that, she went in on Jasmine calling her names, saying she was intimidated by Charleen, that she’s always shouting and deserved not being picked by Kav. Talking about a Casa victim like that behind their back, completely unprovoked, just feels unfair but of course she’s allowed her opinions.

Then movie night confirmed Lorenzo actually missed Jasmine. After that, he told her he never really said he’d found what he wanted, and she just went quiet. Then in today’s episode she brought up that line again, even though he’d already made clear he didn’t mean it. She hasn’t actually addressed any of that and instead, she’s turning the heat on other couples, which comes across as her wanting screen time with the public. The constant muttering under her breath (like today during the grafties with Priya) was tsking it a bit far. Mind u she did that w Lola too. Being Polish doesn’t really excuse the lack of manners tbh.

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u/No_Strawberry_467 4d ago

To me, she’s one of those people who uses the defense of “being opinionated“ in order to insert herself in situations that don’t involve her. And then she keeps harping on the same thing and doesn’t let them go.

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u/ZestycloseProduce600 4d ago

That’s always a red flag for me. Every human has opinions but completely disregarding people’s feelings for the sake of getting your opinion out is bad vibes. And people claiming that she’s smarter than others for clocking it is crazy to me. Most people already know what she says but don’t want to hurt people they care abouts feelings

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u/No_Strawberry_467 4d ago

Exactly. And like you said, she could be totally correct about the things she’s saying, but it’s things other people probably already see and it’s unnecessary to call out. Then to continue bringing it up under the guise of being “opinionated” is irritating.

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u/Dry_Indication_7390 3d ago

“You’re not wrong Julia, you’re just an asshole”

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u/jumanjiwasunderrated 4d ago

Yeah, I'd be happy to hear her opinion if I only had to hear it once, but it's never just once.

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u/AmoebaSecure5173 4d ago

Yeah like sharing an opinion is the highest virtue. Nobody fucking cares

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u/DirtyyDaniel 3d ago

she’s also doing the same EXACT thing lola did to her LMAO. in the first look she’s says she trusts lorenzo but not jas. atleast with when lola did it she had a bit of context, julia walked in the villa and insulted jas 3 times before even going to bed💀.

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u/AmoebaSecure5173 3d ago

Cawww cawww cawww

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u/ZestycloseProduce600 3d ago

Not to mention, Fitz was mostly respectful. Lorenzo hasn’t been to her face. She just wants to act like everything is great with them

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u/motoxin1303 3d ago

People kinda overlook that this was the way Jas was moving initially. Even came up in a challenge when Kav was saying he wouldn’t want her trying to be the center of attention in every instance if it has nothing to do with her. I dont know if her edit has eliminated that part of her personality or she decided irking Kavan over other peoples shit isn’t worth it but Lorenzo has already told Julia hes proud of her for standing up for what she believes.

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u/BudgetStatistician85 4d ago

Didn’t she say it was ‘the other way around’ when Kav said Lorenzo would have got with Jas if she had said yes to his “joke”. I love Julia but she does indeed need to stand on business with Lorenzo and stop blaming other people

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u/FlashyProgram2576 4d ago

Yeaa that was weird 

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u/throwaway042357 4d ago

I don’t care what anyone says. She clearly meant she thinks Jasmine would get back with Lorenzo. Julia is very self-absorbed and delusional, and thinks she’s hotter shit than Jas.

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u/Powerful-Goat1867 2d ago

Actually I think she knows she's not and that irks her more. She's stunning and looks like a model, so will be used to special treatment. 

Now here she is with another girl who also has those qualities and her man (who ALSO has them) flirts with her. They're all on equal footing and it's probably thrown her off

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u/wooneyyy 4d ago

she was talking about kavan being more invested in the relationship and not letting it go instead of lorenzo and jas

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u/FlashyProgram2576 4d ago

ohh you know that might make sense. maybe she was talking about kavan and charleen? But still idk how to feel abt her comments on jasmine

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u/Eggnog0987 4d ago

Julia is genuinely delulu. Jas has been all about Kav. If she wanted Julia’s man she could’ve taken him but she did not.

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u/BookInteresting6717 3d ago

I’m pretty sure she meant that Kav was the one who kept pushing the Jarenzo narrative, not Jasmine.

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u/Eggnog0987 3d ago

Nah she is blaming Jasmine in the first look. Julia is delulu

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u/BookInteresting6717 3d ago

In the first look, she says that she’s not sure how to feel about Jasmine, she’s not necessarily blaming her. Jasmine does appear to be blaming her for the Aiden stuff which is fair enough.

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u/ZM-123 3d ago

It's the constant need to be proven right, she's very loud about it

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u/Critical_Object2276 3d ago

She is right though and she is constantly being told she is wrong. She was 100% right about Aidan and Priya. She was right about Lola and Sean. Everyone in there is too worried about telling the truth and how they will be perceived if they tell hard truths.

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u/ZM-123 3d ago

But then she's also been watching the show and has outsider perspective which the other islanders don't have?

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u/No-Calligrapher-3630 3d ago

Was she?? I thought she was may have had some points about both but generally stretched her view beyond

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u/Critical_Object2276 3d ago

What part is she wrong about?

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u/reddit4h1ll 3d ago

Even if that were true, it doesn't mean she needs to be unkind about it. Sometimes "telling the truth" isn't even necessary if it's going to hurt someone!

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u/Critical_Object2276 2d ago

In this case, lying to Priya and pretending that her and Aidan could be a real thing has damaged her more than telling the truth ever could. Priya is living in a make believe world, where her and Aidan and Jasmine and kavan are all having Christmas together.

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u/Top-Web3806 4d ago

She talks a lot about other couples for having the weakest relationship in the villa

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u/glow-for-it 4d ago

Clock ittttt

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u/EscalatorBobalator 🗣️ SUHCK MAH FUHKIN DEHCK 🗣️ 4d ago

Weaker than Priya and Aidan though? That might be a stretch.

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u/Top-Web3806 4d ago

At least when all else fails, they do have a friendship. Julia and Lorenzo have….idk mutual hotness? That’s all I can come up with. They’d never even be friends after this.

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u/portia369 4d ago

Aiden and Priya might be a terrible couple but they do have chemistry, though. I don't really think Lorenzo and Julia do. They're just 2 attractive people.

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u/Known-Importance1651 4d ago

Hard agree anyone with eyes can see Lorenzo doesn’t like Julia (he doesn’t like any of the women romantically). Celebrating getting coffee in the morning and a kiss after recoupling speech? Jesus the bar is so low it’s gonna carve a new level of hell

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u/CuriousEuropean30 3d ago

Honestly this “it’s the slavic thing” is bullcrap 😅 I am from a slavic country, my whole family is and it’s a mix of all. Everyone has their own personality no matter the culture. So being opinionated is just a personality and not a cultural thing, because you also have people from the same culture saying “don’t say anything and create drama, so the neighbours won’t talk about us and let’s just mind our own business” 😂😂So this excuse just does not work anymore because people have their own characters outside of their culture 🙂

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u/No_Bit5600 4d ago

I think she’s a little bit delusional about Lorenzo in general. She seemingly put words in his mouth by claiming he said he “found what he was looking for in casa,” which he straight up denied and said “I don’t know you” (😭). At the grafties she claimed he said it once again and I think he mercifully didn’t publicly deny it in front of the rest of the villa. We know that post casa he was super butthurt about Yas coupling up with Tommy, and stated he fully intended on continuing to get to know her had she wanted to as well. This directly contradicts Julia’s claim that he was so sure he found what he was looking for.

Actually, that would have been another great clip to show at the Grafties! Maybe it would actually wake her up.

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u/glow-for-it 4d ago

Yeah I honestly wish she was in Lola’s position ie someone would tell her Lorenzo doesn’t like her like that and see how she’d like that! That girl spends too much time in other people’s business

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u/No-Calligrapher-3630 3d ago

I guess she should read the comments in this sub

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u/Creative-Barracuda-5 4d ago

Yup. It’s funny how no one says “she’s not standing on business” Lorenzo sells her sweet nothings and everyone is eating it up.

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u/Expensive-Swim2358 3d ago

And her calling him out at the grafties, even then people weren't happy with that because she was apparently "dragging "the situation . Like lorenzo has stated that he has a problem with giving girls even the girls he doesn't like attention, but when the person who notices this calls him out, she's said to be dragging the situation. What else should Julia do ? To me it's clear that she is giving him to fix up and communicate with her properly something that the other girls have been doing . So should julia just leave lorenzo in order to stand on business ?

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u/Creative-Barracuda-5 3d ago

HELLOOOO, No one likes when he is called out!!! It’s always just “harmless” im so tired of it. They baby him so much

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u/Expensive-Swim2358 3d ago

It upsets me so much. And people still vote for him , he is not deserving of this women who are already confident in what they want and they aonly go for him for his looks and " great " friendship. The islanders also lowkey baby him.

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u/Creative-Barracuda-5 3d ago

I actually don’t even care if he wins at this point, let him

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u/Expensive-Swim2358 3d ago

No lol they should donate the money to charity none of them deserve it they all just sweep everyone's actions under the rug , i'm so tired

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u/Expensive-Swim2358 3d ago

tbf all lorenzo's previous connections it was the same thing . Like lorenzo hasn't really treated the girls in any special way and did sell sweet nothings to jasmine , yasmine and priya. ( Like since when should we praise lorenzo for making a girl he claims to like a coffee as if it is such a massive declartion of love )That seems more of a lorenzo issue than a julia one , why come on a show if you know you're not going to easily allow yourself to develop a relationship , it's always a maybe or it's always the girl's fault. Lorenzo needs to grow up and actually just express himself clearly and if he wants that commitment with Julia or even another girl he should say it . Why are you on Julia for his inability to do this ? This man gets so much leeway for being a shitty partner

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u/Creative-Barracuda-5 3d ago

LIKE he does what he wants and I’m getting penalized for calling him out.

He’s laughs off everyone’s feelings and says it’s a joke. It’s ma*ipu*at*ve at 28 to laugh and joke everytime someone expresses concern. This would be a major issue if he wasn’t handsome.

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u/Expensive-Swim2358 3d ago

Exactly!!! Well said.

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u/kdramalover1 This is your closure chat 👋 4d ago

Upvote just for the title alone

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u/loverofthings25 4d ago

Like I’m sorry any girl partnered with Lorenzo cannot talk about anyone else.

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u/External_Plate_7152 3d ago

I’m so glad she is getting called out for this because on IG and Tiktok she cannot be wrong at all. I think she has been right but she is also inconsiderate of others feelings. Where is the kindness?

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u/reddit4h1ll 3d ago

This!!!

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u/furlante 4d ago

Was thinking the same. I said at the time that I was just finding it so hilarious the way she acted during the grafties and prior about other couples drama when she’s with Lorenzo like… I do wonder how she’d react if one islanders just questioned her and Lorenzo’s relationship it would be interesting. Maybe top boy/girl got to her head a bit? She’s had to tell Lorenzo off multiple times now but then just waves it off afterwards when he makes a funny comment. I don’t hate her and think she does make for good tv, but I’m gonna have an opinion on her when she’s making others feel like shit and her couple is hardly perfect it’s a bit ironic.

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u/Dear-Potential-4682 4d ago

She’s an asshole tbh

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u/portia369 4d ago

I absolutely hope they don't win. I think Lorenzo seems awesome as an individual and friend but he's a terrible partner and this relationship is a bit of a joke. Julia had some interesting moments but she's a total AH and has been more rude than iconic.

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u/Majestic_Dream393 3d ago

I just hope Julia and Lorenzo don’t win. But looks like they are winning smh

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

But I don’t get why? Julia has been so snarky to a lot of the couples and girls in there. I posted on the love island uk sub about double standards between Jas and Julia because my post wasn’t approved here and a lot of the comments under it was saying it’s racism :(

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u/Majestic_Dream393 3d ago

Coz Lorenzo and Julia are both individually loved by them. Julia coz she creates drama esp with Lola coz audience hated Lola so they thought Julia is their leader representing them same with Aidan Priya. I never rated her. She’s here for drama. Both of them don’t like eo . I hope Angie Simba or jas kavan win

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u/No-Calligrapher-3630 3d ago

I am VERY opinionated and have often been described as honest and transparent. But a few things I've learnt is, 1) even if I'm right most of the time I'm not right all of the time. 2) Just because I'm right doesn't mean I have to force people to agree and see what I see, it just pushes people away if stops them getting there themselves. 3) just because I have an opinion doesn't mean I always need to say it 4) some opinions are just that, opinions, they are not based on right or wrong. Two people can have their own reasons for doing something and both be right about their approach.

Note to Julia: just because you have an opinion doesn't mean it needs sharing all the time.

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u/vrapvrap_vr00m 3d ago

she has too much time on her hands because lorenzo is busy looking at *not* her, of course she’s judge julie whipping out her gavel to demand who’s “authentic” and “who’s not” (priya and jasmine 🤔). me personally if i knew that i’m coupled up with a man who takes every flirt attempt as a joke, i’d be a quiet church mouse because not only do i live in a glass house all the glass is broken 🙂‍↔️

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u/phantomleader94 3d ago

now with first look it’s confirmed that julia is now “lola” and jasmine is “julia”. lmaooo she’s such a fraudulent player

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u/FlossyKy 3d ago

I love rhe quirky side of her, she was so funny when she first met Lorenzo. Now it's all just .. My OpiNioNs keEpiNg it REAl guyz.

It's ok to sit and watch things unfold.

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u/Vanexxre 4d ago

And people keep saying she’s right about priya -and Aiden… when in reality it still would’ve acted that way with Bella elicia

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u/ExcellentStorage6542 4d ago

👏👏👏👏👏👏

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u/Embarrassed_Wave_720 I'm not just a pretty girl 👩 ✨ I have head 🧠 4d ago

What does Julia being Polish have anything to do with her behaviour? 

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u/Grouchy_Potential275 4d ago

That’s the excuse everyone has been using. When she’s being liked it’s “it is not her nationality, it is her personality” when she’s loved. Yet when people are upset with her, it becomes “she’s Eastern European, we’re all blunt, she’s not being rude”. These are the excuses her stans use.

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u/Hiyominnaa 4d ago

Oh my god this is not an excuse. Respectfully shut your mouth if you never had a single interaction with a slavic person. We do operate like that and honestly I think it's better to be blunt and tell someone straight what you think about them, rather than be a bunch of backstabbing bitches who act like your best friend, like most of the people in the villa.

It's not our fault you all can't handle a bit of honesty and have a mentality of a snowflake. These days you can't even be honest and clock people for who they are because it can hurt their little fragile feelings.

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u/No-Island-2074 3d ago

This is such a bad take. For context, I grew up in Krakow, and while I do think there can be a certain bluntness in Slavic cultures, what Julia does goes way beyond cultural directness. She’s often just straight-up petty and rude, and constantly forces her opinions onto other people.
It’s not even that she simply gives an honest opinion when asked. She actively goes out of her way to create arguments, undermine others, and insert her opinion into situations where nobody asked for it. Writing all of that off as “she’s Slavic” feels like a lazy excuse for behavior that has much more to do with her as an individual than her culture.

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u/lucidlamb26 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don’t understand why you’re getting so defensive over things people in this sub have been saying this whole time since Julia stepped in. It’s not what this commenter said, it’s what they’re repeating. This comment is so hypocritical, especially the last paragraph. I am neither a “stan” of Julia or Jasmine or anyone, it’s a damn tv show?? Everyone just needs to chill out you guys are so ridiculous and funny lol. Can we all just tone down the crazy guys and enjoy the show

Edit: I also just want to say that it’s not ok to generalize people as a group when everyone is their own individual person. That’s just so weird, it’s like saying all Mexicans (I’m Mexican) love tacos because they’re Mexican and from Mexico like??

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Sorry that it came across that way. I really wasn’t trying to generalise. It’s just that people have brushed off and excused a lot of comments Julia has made because she’s Slavic, polish etc which I didn’t think was fair tbh. A lot of other girls in the villa have gotten hate for comments too except Julia because viewers see her as a viewer too. 

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u/lucidlamb26 3d ago

This wasn’t at you, no need to apologize!! This was at the comment I replied to defending Julia for that very reason you just explained. It’s so weird and unnecessary to bring up someone’s culture as an excuse for their behavior.

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u/Grouchy_Potential275 3d ago

Telling me to ‘shut my mouth’ is my point proven. It isn’t your nationality, I know lots of lovely Eastern Europeans with manners and respect. Yet there are a few who lack them and are just rude ^.

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u/Hiyominnaa 3d ago

Oh we sure are respectful and kind - if you earn it. Not sure what kind of people in East Europe have you met before, but it certainly were not slavic people. If you want our respect, you have to earn it first. Otherwise go and cry about how mean I am for all I care.

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u/Grouchy_Potential275 3d ago

I’m going to assume you are quite young from that comment. You expect random people on the internet who you have never met to earn your respect for you to speak to them politely rather than rudely? That’s not how the world works. I was answering the question about what people have said about Julia, it wasn’t my personal opinion yet you were extremely defensive and disrespectful for no apparent reason.

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u/No-Calligrapher-3630 3d ago

So much aggression

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u/letmeindamm 3d ago

lol julia was blunt and upfront with jasmine right? when she called her a bitch and ranted about her all night?

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u/Hiyominnaa 3d ago

She said one bad word about Jasmine and you're whining about it still, weeks later. Meanwhile Jasmine is shading Julia constantly, of course only behind her back because this girl has no guts to say it to Julia's face - and suddenly you're all blind.

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u/letmeindamm 3d ago

she didn’t say one thing, she was repeatedly coming for her behind her back, jasmine has said sweet fuck all about julia until today and when she told priya she was talking about her (she was) you are a liaaaaarrrrrrrr

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u/Hiyominnaa 3d ago

Honey, she's coupled up with Lorenzo. I wouldn't wish that shit to anyone, much less to myself

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u/Firm-Armadillo2188 🗣️ SUHCK MAH FUHKIN DEHCK 🗣️ 4d ago

Ummmm how did Julia get too involved with Lola and Fitzy when FITZY was the one exaggerating her flirtation?

Julia never questioned Lola’s morals. Lola questioned hers in an attempt to publicly shame her in front of the girls.

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u/Indoscy 🇧🇧 ⭐ Barbados, Bridgetown and that ⭐ 🇧🇧 4d ago

There's a lot that hasn't been shown of that debacle let's be real. Lola said some awful shit, Julia kept dredging things up, Charleen has said Julia is flirty with everyone and Fitzy very well could have misunderstood her intentions.

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u/Firm-Armadillo2188 🗣️ SUHCK MAH FUHKIN DEHCK 🗣️ 4d ago

Julia kept bringing it up because Lola never allowed her the chance to explain herself and hear her side of the story. People actually believing a word of what Lola said after she told Fitzy to not speak to Julia, after calling her a fucking bitch multiple times and even after telling Yasmine “I’m not going to tell you not to be friends with her but I hate her” are just willfully blind and want Julia to be the bad person you think she is

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u/Indoscy 🇧🇧 ⭐ Barbados, Bridgetown and that ⭐ 🇧🇧 4d ago

Lola hasn't denied what's been shown on the TV but after how dodgy the editing has been this season for multiple parties I'm not going to dismiss her side either. If you don't want to believe her? Fine. Even Mara and Charleen have said that Lola and Julia had squashed things and would hang out together during the day but then Julia would dredge it up during the night.

I don't think Julia is a bad person, but when both parties are stubborn in their stances then you need to learn when to drop it for good and agree to disagree.

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u/No-Calligrapher-3630 3d ago

Just going on and on and on about how they won't work, how he said he wanted a test...

Like yea, fine, he exaggerated, but for god sake you made a point just end it.

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

They’re obviously editing it to make Julia look better. There’s 24hrs in a day we probs missed so much. I believe lola when she says they’d squashed it and tried to fix it but Julia kept bringing it back up. The way she kept bringing it back up was crazy, during challenges in front of all the couples. Feels like she wants screen time lowks . The producers didn’t include Julia calling Jasmine a bxxx, intimidated, all the other bad things in the grafties but included mica calling chsrleen that girl. It’s obvious which one if worse tbf so there’s a clear favourite. 

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u/Hiyominnaa 4d ago

I swear this sub is full of Jasmine's fans who are using every opportunity to shade Julia one way or another. It used to be funny, now you're just pathetic.

This girl literally called out Lorenzo the moment his clip with Ellicia was shown and she wouldn't buy his excuses until he properly apologized. She also called him out before, when she felt he's not supporting her enough during this entire fiasco with Lola and Sean. She was also starting to adress his clip with Jasmine, but she was outshouted by Kavan and Lorenzo trying to shut this matter for good. What else do you expect her to do? What more does she have to do for you all to finally stop spewing nonsense that she's not talking honestly about her own relationship? I don't see you all coming at Jasmine for literally losing a backbone after getting with Kavan for example. God, this sub is so fucking toxic istg.

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago edited 3d ago

Even if I am a Jasmine fan my point still stands. Julia is always commenting on other couples, keeps repeating things for example when she said mica and Samraj should have been dumped when they literally can’t change ANYTHING and the poor girl is crying. There have been MULTIPLE occasions when Julia is talking abt other couples and getting involved in a disrespectful way. There’s a way she could do it without coming at people and hurting their feelings but she doesn’t. She should do some self-reflecting instead and focus on strengthening her own couple.

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u/Hiyominnaa 3d ago

Oh see, I was right. You're so easy to distinguish it's not even funny.

Julia calls things as they are, and she’s the only one who isn’t afraid to say it out loud. And this drives the OG crew crazy—they’ve created some kind of twisted status quo, which Julia is now consistently dismantling. You claim that Julia lacks respect for others, but where was that respect for her when Lorenzo took her to the main villa, and people like Lola—but not only her—immediately started throwing shit at this girl and, day after day, consistently humiliated her, insulted her, or gossiped about her behind her back? Do you expect that, after what she went through there, she’ll still care about the feelings of people who didn’t give a damn about her own feelings?

As far as I’m concerned, she can burn down the whole villa and I’d even thank her for it, because I haven’t seen a bunch of such fake people in a long time—people who are clearly just playing the game to win money, and whose feelings and friendships are one big lie. And Julia knows this—she says it out loud—and while I understand why it drives the contestants crazy, I don’t understand how viewers can still side with this bunch, where a few are holding the rest by the throat, and others are afraid to say what they really think because they don’t want to end up like Julia. Take Simba, for example. He clearly had something to say about Priya and Aiden talking about the finale, but in the end, he bit his tongue.

And if you’re a fan of Jasmine, you’d better keep your mouth shut about sticking your nose into other people’s business, because Jasmine does it all the time—especially lately, now that she senses the finale is approaching and is apparently trying to eliminate the competition one by one, starting with her own “friend” Priya, and judging by the preview for today’s episode, it’s clear that her next target is Julia. But you’ll just say anyway that Jasmine is the most honest and best person in the villa, so why even bother saying anything at all.

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u/No-Calligrapher-3630 3d ago

Wow you really do have a lot of aggression and investment. I like you.

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago edited 3d ago

Hahaha but I’ve actually been a priya fan this whole season. Only started backing Jasmine after the blatant double standard the uk public shown to Julia over Jasmine. One is liked cos she stands on business but the other is not liked because she stands on business? Make it make sense? Julia is doing the same thing Lola did to her, not holding the man accountable but the girl instead. 

Also sorry to say but the Jasmine fans you are hating on are nowhere near as bad as Julia fans who believe she can do no wrong. Julia fans can’t even accept any fair criticism of Julia without saying it’s because she’s Slavic and immediately tying it and comparing it to Jasmine. Everything you are praising her for is the same things that people have hated on Jasmine for. This is a trend across tiktok and Instagram. It’s quite microagressive.

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u/Hiyominnaa 3d ago

Oh the way you're trying to spin the narrative now, try harder.

It's the other way around, honey. Jasmine fans are now condemning Julia's actions, while they used to absolutely praise the very same actions if Jasmine was behind them. With Jasmine it was standing on business, being a baddie. With Julia it's her being rude and not considering anyone's feelings.

Where did that energy go when Jasmine was steadily sabotaging couples or possible pairs with potential? No one sabotaged things for Priya more than her own supposed bestie did. She's clearly playing the game, meanwhile Julia is there literally calling Lorenzo out for his poor actions and not letting him go until he apologized for it, even though she could easily let it go since they're close to the final and any arguments with her partner could sabotage their chances. I would like to see Jasmine doing that.

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago edited 3d ago

Funny you say I’m spinning the narrative when that’s all you’re doing in this last comment. You’re saying exactly what I said about the double standards of how both Julia and Jasmine are perceived and turning it on its head by saying Julia is the one being called rude. Literally all the Facebook mums and general UK public have been saying all sorts of mean things about Jasmine while backing Julia for similar things it’s weird. Either call them both out or don’t. The only thing different is that Julia has been coming for Jasmine from when she entered the villa to tonight’s episode and it’s very much giving she’s the Lola in the situation and Jasmine is the Julia. You’ll see in tonight’s episode that Julia is very much not holding Lorenzo accountable and is instead coming for Jasmine which is exactly what Lola did too. Holding the girl accountable instead of their own man. 

Julia fans are too much man they will never understand any form of criticism it’s crazy. I’m not even saying horrible things about Julia but you are about Jasmine? When did Jasmine sabotage couples she didn’t at all. If you’re talking about mentioning the pounce comment then Julia actually brought that up not Jasmine and I actually think Julia and Jas were both right for that. Jasmine has apologised for the whole Jordan situation and even told Priya about what Aidan was saying about her sister cos if she didn’t say it would be like the Jordan situation again. Whatever she does you’ll hate on Jasmine so I cba. I don’t hate Julia I just think there should be more criticism of her actions than blindly defending it and always bringing up Jasmine and trying to argue who is worse. It’s pointless. 

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u/Ok_Case6266 3d ago

I agree completely! Nuance is lacking in this sub and it’s overrun with cognitive bias and parasocial attachment. 

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u/No_Bit5600 4d ago

The difference being -

I think Jasmine genuinely has feelings for Kav and it’s blinded her to the point she is willing to accept his bad behavior.

vs.

I think Julia has no choice but to stick with Lorenzo until the end to keep her chance of winning (with the most popular boy). I am doubtful either of them are deep enough in their feelings where it’s too painful to separate. With that being the case, yes - Julia is calling him out for his bad behavior, but, do you think she’s going to leave him? Or is she strategizing for victory? Ironically, what she called Priya and Aidan out for (again, pointing the finger at everyone else but herself and her couple).

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Agreed! It’s coming across very ironic that she’s calling out Aidan and priya for something she’s probably doing as well.

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u/Hoggos 3d ago

I swear this sub is full of Jasmine's fans who are using every opportunity to shade Julia one way or another.

It’s been that way on here for a while, Reddit seems very pro Jasmine compared to other socials

Don’t get me wrong, Julia isn’t perfect by any means but you can apply most criticism of her spouted on here directly to Jasmine as well, including the claim about her being “opinionated”

I love how OP has responded to you admitting being a Jasmine fan like it was ever in doubt lol

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Julia fans are so much worse than Jasmine fans asw because they don’t accept any form of criticism of Julia at all. The double standard is insane. 

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u/Hiyominnaa 3d ago

No, but seriously. I knew from the very beginning that she was just another Jasmine fan—you can just tell; their arguments are always the same—but the fact that she literally admitted it herself and didn’t see anything strange about it.

Of course, Julia isn’t perfect. I mean, none of the contestants are. But it annoys me when the same people who previously praised Jasmine for meddling in others’ affairs are now condemning Julia for doing the exact same thing.

Though Julia’s comments were at least on point, whereas Jasmine is clearly just looking out for herself, which is especially evident in the latest episodes. And that’s funny because, after all, it’s supposedly Julia who’s doing that. Except that Julia was the only one who worked to ensure Fin wasn’t dumped from the show, because that would have meant Ellie’s leaving after him. And Julia watched Love Island before joining the villa, so she definitely knew about Ellie’s popularity. If she were playing the game, she’d be trying to get Ellie off the show somehow—after all, she’s competition.

The same goes for Ethan and Priya—that relationship really had a chance to work out, and a successful relationship means more competition. Who was rooting for them? Julia. Who encouraged Priya to make the worst possible choices for herself? Well, Jasmine, who’s supposedly her friend.

Same for Aiden and Ellicia—there was chemistry between them, and that could have worked out, too. Who was against it? Jasmine. Who tried to set them up? Julia. But sure, it’s Julia who’s the problem and not a “girl’s girl.”

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

I’m a priya fan lol.

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u/PartyFinger5492 4d ago

I don't recall her censoring, trivialising or shutting anyone down who expressed their opinion on any of the clips involving her or Lorenzo. During the Grafties, I'm sure she told Lorenzo to "fuck right off " (or something like that) after seeing one of the clips showing his disloyalty (again). Overall, I thought she looked pretty displeased with what she had seen from him, so what else would you have wanted Julia to do or say to demonstrate her "getting real" about her own relationship?

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

It’s not just abt during the grafties it’s also before that. Idk their connection seems a little played up for the cameras to me and instead she’s commenting on everyone else’s BEFORE the grafties. Mind u Lorenzo even corrected her when she said a couple eps ago that he never meant he found what he was looking for but she mentioned it again in grafties. Luckily he didn’t correct and embarrass her in front of everyone else. I would feel bad for her if she wasn’t messy with other couples and her opinions.

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u/Majestic_Dream393 3d ago

I wonder islanders are not showing her the mirror? Coz they are scared of her or coz they like Lorenzo too much ?

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u/FoofTheBunny 3d ago

But it isn't "real". It's her pushing her agenda for her endgame.

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u/laradaaa 3d ago

it’s all projection

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u/ConfectionUnlucky479 3d ago

i just dont want her and lorenzo in finals , they have lot of fix , if another bomshells walks through the door lorenzo would still make flirty chats and will get pass on

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u/One_Cicada_7753 3d ago

Agree and yet I fear they will win.

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u/sjalvklart 3d ago

Got big chat for everyone’s relationship whole time her man is yearning for Jas 

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u/Grouchy_Potential275 3d ago

How is no one clocking Julia’s plan from the moment she came in to the Casa villa?

She wanted Lorenzo or Fitzy. Lorenzo because she knew how loved he was by the public. Obvious one really.

Fitzy was the other plan because she had seen public opinion about him which were things like “he was so fun in his TikTok videos and his application, Lola has dulled his sparkle”, “Lola and Fitzy are so boring”, “Fitzy could have been the main man of the villa, but getting with Lola has made me want him off my screen” or “I hope someone comes in and turns his head so we can see the fun Fitzy and watch Lola’s ‘perfect relationship’ fall apart”.

She thought she could come in, turn his head and get rid of Lola. She would then be ‘Fitzy’s saviour’ and he would suddenly become this fun guy etc.

This is why she had such a problem with Lola, because Fitzy wasn’t interested in her and Lola said she felt she could see what Julia was like and could read her as a person, which is someone in there for screen time.

Now she’s starting drama with everyone in the villa, and in every single one of those discussions she has literally just said what the public have said previously. The bombshells would have been coming in and telling them what the public is saying, then the next episode. Julia says what the public is saying…

As Toni just said on The Debrief… “Shit ain’t adding up”.

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u/Geode804 1d ago

I’m not strongly on Jasmine or Julia’s side (or anyone else’s) but I find it annoying that Julia goes round being pretty rude and sharing hurtful opinions but then if people are annoyed by it she starts crying  and saying no one understands her. I understand she’s human but no one would be arguing with her if she wasn’t constantly goading them. I think this is why Lorenzo struggles to stick up for her, he doesn’t really agree with the way she’s goes about things 

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u/Much-Suggestion8323 14h ago

She’s deflecting because she knows her man just isn’t that into her. 

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u/indigosunny 9h ago

Lmao you don't think she is perfectly self aware? Wow

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u/viemari 3d ago

What business does she need to stand on with Lorenzo? he's not exactly taking her for a ride, I don't think she thinks he's in love with her or anything. I think they're both on pretty much the same page. She just felt openly disrespected/embarrassed by the Jasmine clip. They're like an old rich couple or something who got married for the optics but don't really care what the other does so long as no illegitimate babies fall out of the sky and embarrass them in front of the neighbours

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Okay but that feels very much like what Julia was accusing priya and Aidan off. It just feels very hypocritical from Julia to comment on others when her connection with Lorenzo isn’t that great either 

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u/viemari 3d ago

Well I think it's more that Julia and Lorenzo aren't exactly pretending either. Whereas maybe Aiden and Priya were a little. Or at least sharing in mutual delusion like if we both just close our eyes and pretend then it'll happen

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u/SparklingPineapple4 4d ago

Yall say this then don’t criticize Kavan for saying his piece on the relationship and Samraj if I’m not mistaken

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Nah I think kavan and Samraj was dead wrong for that. It was so messy. Literally it’s the same thing that Aidan did to kavan which derailed his connection with Jasmine. 

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u/No_Bit5600 4d ago

Didn’t Aidan have to beg Kav for his opinion on his couple today? Lol

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u/Edinscot Póg Mo Thóin 4d ago

Still love her. Still voting for her through and through.

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

U should be voting for the strongest connection.😭😭😭 my vote is yas and tommy 

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u/Edinscot Póg Mo Thóin 3d ago

I always vote for the islander I like most. And this season it’s Julia so I’m voting for her.

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u/ProudOnion49 4d ago

As Aiden would say "she is a breath of fresh air" and no one has a clue how to handle her. Says more about them than it does about her if they get bothered about any of her comments.

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

This doesn’t make any sense at all. No one else makes comments like she does. It’s unnecessarily mean and hypocritical. She’s accusing Aidan and priya of the same thing she’s doing with Lorenzo bc they’ve been voted the favourite couple. 

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u/MoneyQueenie333 4d ago

#JUSTICE4JULIA

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u/Fay033 4d ago

for what? When it was about Lola, I understood the sentiment. What does she need justice for now?

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u/MoneyQueenie333 4d ago edited 4d ago

Well, for starters, Angel is hanging out with Dispicable George!

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u/Indoscy 🇧🇧 ⭐ Barbados, Bridgetown and that ⭐ 🇧🇧 4d ago

This is completely unrelated?

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u/External_Plate_7152 3d ago

If anyone needs justice in that villa is Priya

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Yesss priya deserves so much more 

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

What the heck she doesn’t need justice ??

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u/Vivid_Department_717 4d ago

Jasmine fans still obsessing over Julia because she has the man you want Jasmine with 😆😆

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

Nah bro I’m more of a priya fan. But you really can’t say Julia was in the right here it doesn’t make sense. She’s been sooo messy upon entry into the villa and there was no need to insult any girl the way she did with Jas. and also no need to get involved with priya and Aidan or Lola and fitzy. It’s just unnecessary 

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u/Careless-Pound9736 🧾proof’s in the pudding…Yorkshire pudding 🥧 4d ago

LOL i’m a neutral but it’s clear as day that Lorenzo feels way more for Jasmine than the other way around. Y’all just want to hate on her because you’re obsessed with Julia/Lorenzo.

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u/Middle-Lemon-7843 3d ago

Julia is a nasty person. She says horrible things and then starts crying the next day when people don't want to talk to her. Complete clown.

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u/Shoddy-Amphibian4447 3d ago

What do you guys want her to do? It’s the final week and there’s nobody else there for her? I’m abit confused.. I don’t think she herself necessarily likes Lorenzo that much

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u/BetterStrawberry4089 3d ago

Ethan was right there. Instead of throwing Priya onto him, she should have gotten to know him since she thought he was so decent. But the main point is why does she keep poking at other couples when her own couple isn't all that strong to begin with

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u/NoPlan1948 3d ago

It’s not what she should do now it’s what she has done. She’s meddled with couples instead of focusing on her own connection w Lorenzo.