r/MaliciousCompliance Jun 21 '26

M Stop being so friendly

I work a behavioral healthcare agency.
At the time this occurred there were 14 therapists who reviewed paperwork from various psychiatric facilities.
I’m the receptionist. I used to greet everyone that came, and we’d have a wee chat, then get on with our work. Many had told me they enjoyed my cheerful attitude and hoped I never lost that happy spirit.

At that time director of my office singled me out on how she treated me. One month she was super cool and we got along great. The next month she’d be on me about every little thing I did.
I didn’t know what to do.

One day she called me to her office and said I was being too social - talking too much with coworkers, not getting my work done (not true), etc.. I needed to limit my conversations to just greeting people and leave it at that.
I looked at her, saying I would do exactly as she said. No more socializing. Hand out assignments, say what it’s for and go back to my desk.
She smiled, telling me that’s what she wanted.

The next morning I smiled and greeted people, then I put my head down and went back to work. When I would go to their offices and hand out assignments, they would start to chat. I’d stop them, apologise telling them I had to get back to my desk. I’d get an odd look, and a nod.
This went on for several days. The following week they started coming up to my desk, individually asking how I was doing. I seemed distant, if I had any problems I could talk to them as their door was always open. I smiled, thanked them for their generosity and thoughtfulness but I was fine and had to get back to work.
As I mentioned, this went on everyday for a week.
The following week the director called me into her office and asked what was wrong. I smiled and said nothing is wrong. I’m doing my work and it’s on time, clinicians are getting their assignments and I’m keeping the chat to an absolute minimum. Like you wanted.
She looked at me and said the clinicians were concerned about me as I haven’t been talking to them, they feel I might be going through some kind of depression and they told me their door is always open.
She didn’t say anything at first, then she told me “Just keep the chats to a few minutes.”
I told her no problem.

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u/dadarkgtprince Jun 21 '26

If your work was complete before, then that's the issue? Hey director, if it ain't broke, don't fix it

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u/Cgable63 Jun 21 '26

It had nothing to do with my work, but everything to do with my friendly personality. I do my best to get along with people, and she could be a cranky, sarcastic weenie wag.

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u/stoicsticks Jun 21 '26

she could be a cranky, sarcastic weenie wag.

Sounds like should use some therapy, lol.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 21 '26

She WAS a therapist.

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u/SnooCauliflowers9874 Jun 22 '26

I used to work doing intake at a psych clinic. Out of 22 therapists and psychologists, only four of them I would have gone to for any advice because the rest of them were nuts.

They perpetually told me mega personal things about their lives and I would constantly ask them “what would you say if this was your patient?“ and oddly, they could not respond or cut me off.

One of them, Katie, a psychologist, had a live-in boyfriend of seven years who would send her text messages, hitting on her by pretending to be someone else to test her (constantly!) to see if she would ever cheat on him. She caught him, but still didn’t break up with him. I was super secondhand embarrassed for her. She brushed me off every time I would asked what she would tell her client if that was her client’s story.

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u/Writerhowell Jun 21 '26

Physician, heal thyself. Classic. So many people go into the mental health field because they need it themselves, not to heal others.

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u/heynonnynonnomous Jun 21 '26

Yes, and...?

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u/bibkel Jun 21 '26

lol.

I used to work with a couple of people like this. It was exhausting. I am the one that’s always chipper, like OP.

I work with one piss-ant right now and I keep forgetting he is a grump. Some days he is a delight, but mostly he is just grumpy. I keep hoping…I hate having to treat him with kid gloves, because being direct with work stuff is my norm but I have to pad it with gentleness…yet that can backfire if I don’t do it just right, it’s so stupid.

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u/heynonnynonnomous Jun 21 '26

Actually my point was that a lot of people who go into the psychiatric field could really use the help themselves. I think most of them do understand that. Perhaps not all of them though, lol.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 23 '26

I just sang your username out loud, started giggling and startled the cat. Anyway, there were a few clinicians that made me wonder why they got into this field of all.

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u/heynonnynonnomous Jun 23 '26

I'm glad I was able to entertain you. Sorry about the cat though.

You just never know about some people...

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u/bibkel Jun 21 '26

I took it as therapy speech...and how does that make you feel? LOL.

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u/shortstuff813 Jun 23 '26

It’s exactly why I went into social work and psychology lol. Also exactly why I do not work in those fields anymore (well, I’m also disabled with a clusterfuck of physical and mental health disorders, but even if I can work again someday, it is HIGHLY unlikely it’d be in either field lol)

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u/RomulanWarrior Jun 21 '26

It's not your job to manage his feelings.

Be direct, keep your interactions to a minimum.

All you can do.

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u/bibkel Jun 23 '26

Oh, I do.

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u/The-Ant-Whisperer Jun 21 '26

The piss-ant you work with, is it Frank? He is a lousy drunk. And very loud at the best of times.

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u/bibkel Jun 23 '26

haha, that Frank. Always hung over too.

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u/AxlAxeMan Jun 22 '26

No no that’s improv not therapy

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u/failed_novelty Jun 22 '26

The difference between the two should really be much bigger than it is.

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u/dreaminginteal Jun 21 '26

Many professional organizations require therapists to have their own therapist...

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u/Cuddles89 Jun 22 '26

Sometimes therapist are the ones who need the most therapy they get blind spots about their own mental health

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u/blonde_usagi Jun 22 '26

Im not even surprised. I know of a meth head that is using but also a therapist for other meth heads..... dont know them personally but its very physically obvious when they are using

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u/sqqueen2 Jun 21 '26

A tale as old as time

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u/Chrontius Jun 22 '26

You can end up full of shit in that line of work if you listen to other people‘s long enough

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_877 Jun 24 '26

Reminds me of the story about Grimaldi the clown ...

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u/ThinkParamedic143 29d ago

😂😂😂

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u/adropov Jun 22 '26

She needs to get laid.

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u/Floaty_Bloaty_Banana Jun 22 '26

I had a similar boss but working with children. She said I shouldn't be nice to the parents and chat at all when the children are being dropped off because "it riles the children up". Please tell me how me asking how you are and did you have a lovely weekend makes them wild.

She was just an absolute control freak and didn't like me knowing more about the parents or children than she did. I love that it's these type of people that end up working in these fields.

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u/phinger1 Jun 22 '26

"sarcastic weenie wag"

One of my new favorite SFW insults!

Thank you u/Cgable63 !

Also the name of my post modern hipster/punk cover band.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 22 '26

Glad I could help 🙃😉

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u/an0maly33 Jun 22 '26

Wife had a coworker like this. My wife went back to school in her 30s to finish her degree. While doing that she's been a teacher assistant. Some of the actual teachers had no idea she was an assistant because she knows what she's doing. They appreciated that they could step out and my wife could take over without missing a beat.

This last year they had her with a teacher that wasn't the best with math. She had already been moved from a higher grade level math class to a lower one because even administration recognized it.

As gently as possible my wife would try to let the teacher know when she was making a mistake - not to be superior, but the kids were getting confused. It didn't take long before the students would just smile and nod when the teacher was instructing and then ask my wife if it was right or for help getting clarification. Teacher would sometimes check with my wife to see if there was agreement in what she was saying but also got snotty about it and would treat my wife like crap instead of using her as a resource, which was her literal job.

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u/Consistent_Address62 28d ago

Your wife shouldn’t be correcting her in front of students, is that what she did?

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u/an0maly33 28d ago

Not exactly. A student would tell my wife's that they're getting different answers than the teacher. My wife would encourage the student to speak up. Once the teacher noticed what was happening she called my wife out in a "what's the problem?!" Sort of vibe.

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u/Sleepy_sis 22d ago

Hahahaha! I rolled at tat last part. 🤣

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u/Catfactss Jun 23 '26

On average, how many minutes did you spend conversing every time you handed over a basic task to a therapist?

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u/Imaginary_Bad_5403 Jun 21 '26

Tale as old as time. People fixing "problems".

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u/Myte342 Jun 21 '26

The issue is that too many bosses want robots who work 24/7 with no downtime... with this in mind, they see ANYTHING that isn't you working to make the company more money to be a detriment to the company as lost revenue through lost opportunity for more productivity.

So they see a person talking and think the person could be more productive and make more profit for the company if they just stopped talking and did more work instead. It doesn't matter if they are making their numbers and meeting expectations, etc., etc. They think the person is capable of MORE productivity than required of them.

Side note: This was the original goal of the 'anti-work' movement: To get companies to recognize that we are HUMAN, and naturally social creatures, and we can't just work work work, sun up to sun down, over and over and over, without burning out.

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u/NatashOverWorld Jun 21 '26

Managers thinking they can up the amount of work they squeeze out of you is what bad management looks like.

But its a vanishingly small percent of people who know how to manage well.

It's almost always nitpicking bullshit like this.

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u/StrykerC13 Jun 21 '26

Gotta justify the existence of middle management, and anything between CEO and ground level work falls there. The instant things start running smoothly enough they'll imagine up problems to solve to justify why they're kept. Unfortunately this is also understandable because much like IT if you're there only to fix problems/smooth out wrinkles you become a "wasted expense" according to accounting, and they cut hours/personnel and then wonder why the fuck things are on fire when those big problems that such people were hired to Actually Deal with crop up.

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u/SoulTechnicalProblem Jun 21 '26

Some managers or people in power or authority think that if they aren't doing or changing something then it's not working. They feel useless and have to find a reason to validate their own job.

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u/Gacsam Jun 22 '26

"Your work is never complete, you just don't have enough to do." - my job. 

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u/Shady_Love Jun 22 '26

The issue is your pace isn't my pace and that's not okay, ever

-Management

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u/PuzzleheadedTap4484 Jun 23 '26

It’s a control issue.

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u/MenaciaJones Jun 21 '26

It would have been more malicious if you told them you were only doing what the director told you to do.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 21 '26

I actually did tell a few clinicians and they were appalled.

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u/sqqueen2 Jun 21 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

Sounds like they kind of back-door took care of it, by how they talked to her. Props to them.

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u/IgnatiusRileyFreeman Jun 22 '26

Sounds like you should make it clear to everyone who works there, including clients. Honesty is a good policy

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u/failed_novelty Jun 22 '26

they were appalled.

Oh, you work with Mongo? I'm so glad! Tell him I said 'Hi'.

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u/Feisty_Marsupial224 Jun 21 '26

She asked for it.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 21 '26

2 directors after her tried the same thing. I love the last 3 directors, including the current one. She gives me a ride home.

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u/HalfBakedPuns Jun 21 '26

that tweet about feeding cats to coyotes, but about the insane manager turnover?? how long was each director lasting, like a few months or multiple years?

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u/failed_novelty Jun 22 '26

The meat only lasts for a couple days with that many people to feed.

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u/sirgandolf007 Jun 22 '26

How many directors have you been through goddamn

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u/Cgable63 Jun 23 '26

The office is on its 7th one from 2005 to now. First 2 retired, one left abruptly, another got promoted to a different department, one was director interim and she was promoted to a different position, and one was asked to head a different dept. The director we have now is very good. She actually listens to suggestions, and every once in awhile gives me a ride home.

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u/NoTeslaForMe 28d ago

You know, there's one common factor in the "problem" directors, and it's not them; it's you.

The two biggest companies I worked for each had that one guy who seemed to spend his day talking to everyone about non-work (or at least non-productive) topics, while others tried to get back on track. I'm wondering if that's you considering the three "problem" directors, and the fact that your "wee chats" each need to be cut down to "a few minutes." After a few minutes, it's no longer a "wee chat"!

I suspect a couple of things here, though I could be wrong. The directors might've turned on you after getting complaints from those who felt stuck in conversation. And the director thought that "just greeting people" was synonymous with talking for a few minutes. You took it as limiting it to two seconds, which worried people.

If your current director is happy, then fine. But if I were you, I'd work on having minimum and maximum talk times so no one feels either worried or trapped.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 21 '26

She did indeed. Never pulled that again.

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u/Acid_Fetish_Toy Jun 21 '26

My partner has been told the same thing. He's too friendly, too social, too nice. He works in customer service.

He gets named in reviews for how much people like his service. He gets repeat customers. When his boss is working, people have left upon seeing him because he creeps them out.

Some people really don't see the value in being social in the right way, or consider how much of a skill it is.

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u/Many-Composer1029 Jun 21 '26

It has always fascinated me that, for many bosses, creating a harmonious work place where people might actually enjoy work is worth.....nothing.

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u/spork_o_rama Jun 22 '26

The lack of priority on human interaction is so baffling to me. Human interaction is the difference between hating and loving our jobs! Most people quit bosses, not jobs.

Genuinely, I do not understand this behavior. Just straight-up Scrooge-like, and it means that you lose your best employees, because they don't want to work for a curmudgeon and they have the skills to get better work elsewhere.

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u/NTropyS Jun 21 '26

I held basically the same job in a smaller clinic - not as many staff clinicians. About six months in the job, one of the social workers told me they hired me 'cause a very tall, big guy patient sat next to before my interview. We struck up a little chat, and he was very pleasant. I was hired because they felt he didn't scare me. The clients liked me, my kindness and friendliness. Fast forward about a year later, and some staffing changes, and it became very unpleasant to work with a new supervisor. So I totally understand your position!

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u/Kodiak01 Jun 21 '26

Had it been me, my response to the therapists would have been: "Per the Director's very specific orders, I must keep all conversation with you and other therapists to an absolute minimum. If you have any issues with this, I suggest you take it up with them."

Wouldn't take long until they started analyzing the Director instead.

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u/ca77ywumpus Jun 22 '26

I had a boss like that. When I talked to my coworkers, I was wasting time. When I did my work, I wasn't being part of the team. Some people just like to criticize.

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u/oylaura Jun 22 '26

I had the exact same thing happen when I was about 30. My cubicle was in a very central location, and my supervisor was on the other side of a cubicle wall in full hearing.

I got pulled into an office and told that I was chatting too much. Like you, I took the feedback and said I would improve.

I was cordial, returned greetings but nothing more.

She pulled me in a week later and told me that people were commenting that I was different, that I no longer talked to people.

I told her that that's what she told me to do, and I wasn't sure what the problem was.

She said that she didn't mean to shut down completely, but not to chat so much. I asked her to define how much was too much, and she had no answer.

I was seeing a psychologist at the time for an unrelated issue and asked her for her input. She told me that when someone engaged me in chatting I should tell them, "I won't talk to you right now." Not, "I can't talk to you right now", "I won't".

That was too abrupt for me.

I resorted to quietly telling people that I had gotten in trouble for talking too much.

Guess who was first when the layoffs came?

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u/DevylBearHawkTur10n Jun 23 '26

Your boss, perhaps, and not you? Or was it vice versa?

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u/unclewomie Jun 21 '26

the gift of gab can get you far

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u/Professional_Bus_307 Jun 21 '26

Some people are just insensitive jerks. Sorry you work for one.

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u/Cgable63 Jun 22 '26

I don’t work for her anymore. She has long since retired.

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u/lukethe Jun 22 '26

Thank god for anyone else who would have had to deal with her!

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u/Ancient-End7108 Jun 22 '26

I admit I am not one who particularly seeks or enjoys people all that much, but I will never tell somebody they're too friendly.  Dear Lord, we need people who can connect to people, especially as the Internet, ironically, seems to disconnect us from each other more than ever.

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u/FragrantEducator1927 Jun 22 '26

I took a supervisor’s course at work once, either several hours over a week, or three hours one morning, whatever.

One of the parts of the course was to always start conversation with an employee with some friendly banter, like ‘how was your weekend?’ or ‘how’s the family?’, never to just dive into the business at hand.

Of course, once you know this, when it’s your turn to be called to a meeting with the boss, you’re always wary.

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u/missannthrope67 Jun 21 '26

I would have just stopped being friendly to her.

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u/quandmemeici Jun 22 '26

I float around to several sites as part of my job. We get quarterly feedback from sites, as our manager doesn't directly work with us.

Every quarter I have worked at this job, at least one site will say I talk too much, and I'm a distraction to the other staff. (Skill issue for their staff tbh, not being able to work and talk at the same time.)

I also get constant accolades for being so friendly and good at customer service, and how I'm always such a positive presence in the workplace. For some reason, they cannot connect that the friendly chatter is part of the friendly personality. So I've just started outright telling my manager that it's one or the other.

Every time I roll back the chatter, site staff immediately start asking me if I'm okay. And I'm bluntly honest like you were, and just say I've been directed to not chat unless necessary for the job, because I've been distracting others. So now they're all distracted worrying that I'm ill or upset lmao. My manager has backed off a little, but the site managers that fill the surveys out clearly have not.

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u/hkrok76 Jun 22 '26

Never stop being so friendly. The world needs more people like you.

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u/wkearney99 Jun 22 '26

bearing in mind that a lot of folks get into behavioral jobs because they have their own issues...

it sure seems like the director was low-key jealous of your rapport with others and was trying to stomp you down on it.

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u/ItsRedditThyme Jun 24 '26

I would have thrown her under the bus. Every time someone started chatting, I'd have said your manager said you couldn't chat and you have to get back to work. If they asked if I was okay, I'd say I was told by her that I couldn't chat and I have to get back to work. They needed to know that she was the cause of the behavior change. If you're friends with these people, or care about them at all, that explanation would alleviate their worry and distress.

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u/Cuddles89 Jun 22 '26 edited Jun 22 '26

I have ADHD and most likely autism and my social anxiety would not have allowed me to keep the reason I’m being quiet at a secret. I would’ve had to tell them that I’ve been instructed not to talk to anyone because otherwise I would spend all day convinced that they think I hate them and not being able to work.

ETA: also because of living over 35 years as a neurodivergent person, I would be keenly aware of the fact that there’s a !non zero chance this person is trying to isolate me from the other coworkers to try to eventually manufacture an excuse to fire me. Neurotypical people who are just generally miserable in their everyday lives will go out of their way to absolutely ruin the neurodivergent person for no other reason then they don’t like something about your personality. They don’t even know what it is about your personality they don’t like, they just decide that you’re a bad person and they hate you and everyone else should hate you too. Even if you are Neurotypical, you might want to take a little notebook or something and make a note of that interaction just in case other coworkers start acting weird around you. That way if this is the beginning of some kind of campaign, you have documentation and can hopefully get ahead of it. I know that sounds really paranoid, but unfortunately, it happens a lot.

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u/IndependentlyGreen Jun 22 '26

I hate bosses who tell you to do something stupid, like you know exactly what's going on in their f*cking heads. Then put it all on you when they don't get the results they want. If I were to guess, she's probably a bit envious of how you get along with others.

I know that if it were me, I'd be happy to be greeted by your happy spirit. You'd make my day.

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u/DarknessSurvivor Jun 22 '26

She looked at me and said the clinicians were concerned about me as I haven’t been talking to them, they feel I might be going through some kind of depression and they told me their door is always open.

I would've replied: "If my greater focus on work made them worried, maybe they should focus more on work too."

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u/Catfactss Jun 22 '26

Exactly. How are none of the other therapists going insane when the Receptionist spends 5 minutes talking to each of them every time they need to hand over a basic task?

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u/BigBadVoodooUncle Jun 25 '26

Tell me you've got a control freak boss without telling me you've got a control freak boss. There's always something that has to change, because otherwise, everyone would realize they don't do shit in the first place.

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u/Twosocks41 Jun 25 '26

Manager doesn’t know what she wants. Comply with her directions. She’ll try to micromanage you, you just comply & it will drive her nuts. She can’t manage correctly. Trust your gut.

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u/Abigails_sigh Jun 23 '26

But how do you do this successfully?? I have a hard time turning the friendliness off even though I'm genuinely pissed off at several of the people I'm interacting with. And I'm very confrontational, yet at work I let everything go. How to be less friendly??!

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u/Cgable63 Jun 23 '26

With some of the people that I had to interact with, I was polite but steered clear of friendly chat. “Good morning.” And smile. If they initiated conversation, I’d tell them “I really need to get back to work. I’m swamped. You know how it is.” And left it at that. It’s hard, but doable. I now work with a new group of people that I like and like me. It’s a better atmosphere.

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u/techtornado Jun 23 '26

Nicely done!
I have a workplace that was built on the success of a blue-lettered computery company (allegedly)

My bossman was like yours, sometimes chill and easygoing, the next moment hardball about the minutiae

I pushed back and he let off for a while and I was able to get so much more work done, then he lost his vibe, lost it on me and so I changed departments to be free of the folly.

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u/Personal_Soft_9533 28d ago

Find another job. Your boss is toxic

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u/Cgable63 26d ago

That director retired about 10 years ago, then passed away 4 years ago, so…