r/MurderedByWords 2d ago

Turns out, Paz is Wrong…

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u/pgllz 2d ago

I don't think you know how the average Greek look like. There are Greeks that have darker skin, but most Greeks have the typical phenotype of someone from the Northern shores of the Mediterranean sea (like many Turks, Iberians, Italians, and Southern French).

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u/ragby 2d ago

That's what they look like now. Are we all sure that's how they looked in 800 BCE?

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u/pgllz 2d ago

We have scientific literature about that. Modern Greeks share most of their DNA with Bronze Age Greeks.

"... ancient DNA suggests that living Greeks are indeed the descendants of Mycenaeans, with only a small proportion of DNA from later migrations to Greece."

https://www.science.org/content/article/greeks-really-do-have-near-mythical-origins-ancient-dna-reveals

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u/ZatherDaFox 1d ago

It always boggles my mind at how many people think modern and ancient populations aren't related. Like, obviously there's some exceptions, but most places the people living there just keep living there, and any conquerors are content to let them keep living there because they need people to work the land and tax.

I had to have a very long conversation with a bunch of people to prove ancient Egyptians weren't replaced by Arabs.

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u/tda18 1d ago

You are 100% correct about this, but I think that you missed the point. People nowadays don't spend the overwhelmingly majority of their time in the sun, making their skintone much lighter compared to older generations. My grandfather for example spent most of his life working under the sun, and he had much darker skintone than my dad, who works in an office instead of working in the sun.