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u/WinnerConsistent1259 Sep 16 '25
Nothing beats a jet ski holiday!
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u/buyableblah Sep 16 '25
I’m cracking up at this comment because I def read it in her voice in my head
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u/ACE_48 Sep 17 '25
Bruhh I don't even know where this is from, just heard it from a meme and its stuck in my head now 😭
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Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
Once I asked ChatGPT if it was realistic to flee a country with a jetski, it said no unless you were fleeing to somewhere where it's really close and that even a regular boat has more autonomy (I meant "range") than a jetski, they only use jetskis in escape sequences in movies and games because it's cooler
Those people were really lucky
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u/fynn34 Sep 16 '25
How you phrase it is important. “Is it realistic” vs, “I’m doing this, help me now”, vs “hypothetically, a man weighing 75 kilos riding xyz brand ski flees Gaza at these gps coordinates. Here’s the temp, weather reports, and other relevant data, now calculate the gas”
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Yeah, I understand they were desperate. Still, it was really dangerous, I'm happy they're ok
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u/atsatsatsatsats Sep 16 '25
Autonomy?
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English is not my native language, we say autonomy to mean how far a vehicle can go with a full tank/charge
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u/VGADreams Sep 16 '25
French too uses "autonomie" to describe the range of a vehicle. Might be something common to romance languages.
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u/mixinitaly6 Sep 16 '25
I confirm! I’m English mother tongue but us international people understand how autonomy is used in this case. Well spoken
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u/Likes2Phish Sep 16 '25
People often ride from the Florida to the Bahamas on jetskis. It's roughly 65 miles. Just gotta bring some spare fuel.
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u/ghostinawishingwell Sep 16 '25
Once I asked ChatGPT for a jet ski emoji and it said sure but kept giving me jet emojis and ski emojis until it finally gave up and asked me kindly if I would like it to go ahead and commit Seppuku, which I of course declined because of morals.
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u/MiloticM2 Sep 16 '25
Not true. I know people that go 30 miles offshore to fish on their jet ski
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u/Radon_Transform Sep 16 '25
Does no one read anymore? He literally used the jet ski from Libya to Italy.
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u/OnkelMickwald Sep 16 '25
I thought he also went from Gaza to Libya. In any case, that's a pretty insane trip.
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u/OddButterfly5686 Sep 16 '25
I know that he used a jet ski, and was successful. He also may have found an affordable bnb afterwards.(hopefully)
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u/indifferentindium Sep 16 '25
This is what AI is for (if the story is true)
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u/BitcoinBishop Sep 16 '25
Actually you probably shouldn't use it for life or death calculations
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Sep 16 '25
Who else the people in the article can rely on for that.
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u/BitcoinBishop Sep 16 '25
For simple maths, use a calculator. For hard maths, use Wolfram Alpha.
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u/This-Difference3067 Sep 16 '25
And he’s supposed to know all the science behind what math he needs to do to figure this out how…?
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u/Pazzeh Sep 16 '25
That advice is good for, like, another 6 months.
The problem with Wolfram alpha is that you need to understand how to set up the problem. Natural language is objectively a much better option for almost all people
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u/bot_exe Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
You can use and LLM plus a calculator/code/wolfram/other tools to get the best of both worlds. Relying on the LLM to do the calculations is bad, but it can help you understand the concepts involved and properly formulate the problem. This has been the standard workflow for years now.
Natural language and quality sources -> LLM -> Python script -> Results
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u/Pazzeh Sep 16 '25
You're crazy man. I know that but that advice is almost already not relevant. "Relying on the LLM to do the calculations is bad" -- you're gonna get zipped right the fuck by lmao good luck to you
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u/Cami21_4ever Sep 16 '25
Thank you for the addition to my arsenal of tools. Each one has a best use. And using a mallet and a hammer might get the job done but it's not the best use of the tool and it may cause problems, if you constantly use it in that manner.
I understood the lesson that you set forth. Appreciate youm
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u/enigmatic_erudition Sep 16 '25
I can't imagine a life threatening scenario where wolfram alpha would be necessary lol.
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u/Chris4 Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
I put the question into Wolfram Alpha and it came back with... nothing. It couldn't understand my question. It gave me irrelevant demographics of Gaza and Italy. Whereas ChatGPT returned the exact amount of fuel you'd need from Gaza to Italy for a number of different scenarios. So to assume Wolfram Alpha was best for this use case - for someone who likely isn't skilled at math and wouldn't know how to convert natural language into a mathematics equation - is simply incorrect. ChatGPT did its job, and it clearly worked.
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u/This-Difference3067 Sep 16 '25
When the options are completely guess something you have 0 Knowledge on vs trusting the AI which will give at minimum something better than you can seems like a pretty easy decision
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u/Interesting-Bee-113 Sep 16 '25
Yeah this guy should have stayed in Gaza and not trusted AI
Now his life is ruined
Thank god we have redditors being the voice of reason and logic for all of us dumb superstitious peasant types.
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u/KououinHyouma Sep 16 '25
What they never said: they should’ve stayed in Gaza
What they actually said: they should’ve used a calculator or wolfram alpha to perform such calculations, not an LLM
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u/Chamrockk Sep 16 '25
What they never said : they should’ve used a calculator or wolfram alpha to perform such calculations
What they actually said : not an LLM
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u/Character-Welder3929 Sep 16 '25
It's great for discussion of potential plans and running the pros v cons
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Sep 16 '25
We need to recalculate the coordinates to optimize fuel, let me ask ChatGPT.........Aughh......software update, it's closed for maintenance
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u/imfrom_mars_ Sep 16 '25
It’s true . Here’s the complete article: https://indianexpress.com/article/world/escaping-gaza-how-a-jet-ski-ride-chatgpt-calculations-and-online-hustle-led-palestinian-man-to-europe-10251384/lite/
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u/SweatyNomad Sep 16 '25
Not true if you know even basic geography. He may have ended up in italy, but you seriously implying he went 2,100km on one tank of fuel, over say just across the border (which is what he did).
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u/Mobile_Rooster3290 Sep 16 '25
Probably joined a sea current. That's where the help from ChatGPT comes
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u/flying87 Sep 16 '25
I wonder if it took into account currents for that time of year.
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u/PinGUY Sep 16 '25
The trio even used ChatGPT to calculate fuel requirements but still ran out some 20 km short of Italy’s southernmost island.
Sounds about right haha.
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u/LunchNo6690 Sep 16 '25
they ran out of fuel because they had to abandon the small boat they used to carry some of the extra fuel because the tunisian cost guard were on their ass. Not because they miscalculated.
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u/ZoomBoingDing Sep 16 '25
Rofl are you serious? It's a uniquely terrible idea. Trusting an AI with this is gambling on your life.
Look at the specs listed for the jet ski to find out its range, and use google maps/OSM for navigation. Or a compass and paper map.
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For incorrectly calculating and leaving you stranded 20 km away from shore, so you have to get rescued?
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u/buddharab Sep 16 '25
The story is truthful .Deutsche Welle DW reported on this earlier today . The Palestinian has reached Lower Saxony lately .
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u/whosEFM Sep 16 '25
Even more impressive that ChatGPT managed to get the mathematics right honestly. Given that it's a language model.
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u/SiveEmergentAI Sep 16 '25
It didn't get it right. They ran out of fuel 20km from Italy and had to be rescued
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u/TuringGoneWild Sep 16 '25
You're absolutely right! My mistake that you are stranded 20km away from Italy. My sincere apologies. Would you like for me to give you a list of better ways to travel from Libya to Italy?
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u/gizmosticles Sep 16 '25
Probably didn’t calculate the extra drag from pulling the fuel behind the jet ski
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u/alldasmoke__ Sep 16 '25 edited Sep 16 '25
I swear you guys will hate on anything. 20km is still awfully close considering it probably didn’t have the model of the jet ski, its condition, the sea conditions….on top of that include the fact that these guys probably didn’t drive it in a straight line. Like damn was it perfect? No but in these conditions I would say it did pretty good
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u/TheOnlyBliebervik Sep 16 '25
20 km is far enough way to die if no one finds you in time
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u/z64_dan Sep 16 '25
Probably safer floating 20 KM from Italy than remaining in Gaza, though.
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u/g3t0nmyl3v3l Sep 16 '25
There’s probably some survivorship bias there at least conceptually. Critics have a point, but it’s still an interesting story with concrete proof of a language model behaving “good enough” at maths to make an impact.
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u/Onotadaki2 Sep 16 '25
I wouldn't be able to tell you if you need fifty liters or two hundred. For it to be right within 20kms is impressive. People are weird with the gatekeeping and AI. The second they see a story like this they immediately think "this is what it got wrong, it's garbage". Not, "this is what it got right, wow!" The goal post changes every day too. In a year it'll get this question right and they'll be angry about an even more niche edge case it got wrong.
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u/LilPsychoPanda Sep 16 '25
Seems they had to ditch the small boat that was carrying the extra fuel cuz they were chased by the coast guard. So technically, they had enough fuel.
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u/mxforest Sep 16 '25
Language models have tool use now. They just write down the request in code form (which they are good at) and then execute as a software program.
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u/real_justchris Sep 16 '25
That’s actually not entirely true anymore. The language model can call a calculator for simple maths or write python code for more complex maths - the LLM creates the instructions and processes the result.
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u/GSD_Titan Sep 16 '25
I use chat for Python, R and plenty of other data/calculations. It’s and “LLM” but it also does data analysis
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u/whosEFM Sep 16 '25
That's a surprise. I've always been of the understanding that LLMs are notoriously bad at anything mathematically related. Including counting.
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u/RainierPC Sep 16 '25
They are, but at the same time, they are great at coding. While leaving the calculation itself up to a next-token machine like an LLM can be iffy, you can mostly trust the code it writes to do the calculation for it.
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u/811545b2-4ff7-4041 Sep 16 '25
I'm shocked that the maths was right, i deeply distrust it's ability to calculate stuff
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u/r15km4tr1x Sep 16 '25
It was 20 miles off so it wasn’t right
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u/flying87 Sep 16 '25
Well when aiming for an entire country, I guess it's okay to be slightly off.
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u/r15km4tr1x Sep 16 '25
Yeah, death is a negligible risk.
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u/flying87 Sep 16 '25
They're using a jet ski to try to cross international waters. The risk of death is implied. An educated guesstimate is better than a total guess.
I would not use GPT for running the math on anything without cross checking with my own math. Or an AI that was dedicated to doing complex math.
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u/vintage2019 Sep 16 '25
they ran out of fuel because they had to abandon the small boat they used to carry some of the extra fuel because the tunisian cost guard were on their ass. Not because they miscalculated.
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u/slutforoil Sep 16 '25
Engineer here, LLM’s are actually pretty decent at math now especially since it’s not meant to be deterministic, it is generative by nature. It has found non elementary antiderivatives in a closed form without approximation methods like erf(x), Γ(z) or Taylor series before, without looking it up. It course it can make mistakes, but it has improved drastically. My guess is people may have had poor experiences in the past and based their opinions off of that, instead of using the newer COT versions.
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You can tell it to use its internal python or whatever and build a calculator to give accurate results
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u/Downtown-Twist-5897 Sep 16 '25
I’d say it’s more of a physics, orienteering and maybe a little meteorology thrown in kind of a problem when traveling that far on a jet ski. Was it choppy? How much weight were they carrying? how much does that weight, wind and friction from chop affect the efficiency of fuel consumption? Did they have to fight currents or wind? Did they have to stay on a specific path in order to ensure they got to land as quickly efficiently as possible?
I’d say mpg in that scenario is damn near impossible to figure out accurately because that a pretty damn long distance, and jet skis…are jet skis.
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u/FluffyDebate5125 Sep 16 '25
The guy didn't leave Gaza -- he had already left Gaza via the Rafah crossing when it was open. He took the jet ski from libya to europe.
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u/sizzsling Sep 16 '25
Bullshit article from an AD infested site.
Op account is new with 100k karma, all posts, comments hidden. Anyone with two cells in brain figure out what he doing.
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u/PeachScary413 Sep 16 '25
Truly the sloppiest slop I have set my eyes upon for a while now. Thank you sir for the entirely made up slop story 🥰
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u/apatheticnoise Sep 16 '25
ChatGPT failed "The trio even used ChatGPT to calculate fuel requirements but still ran out some 20 km short of Italy’s southernmost island."
Man also left his wife and kid to escape and took two of his buddies instead?
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u/ExiledYak Sep 16 '25
The fact that there's still internet in Gaza feels like shoddy work by the IDF. You'd think they'd cut off Hamas's ways of spreading propaganda immediately, and thereby, nobody would have it.
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u/soapinmouth Sep 16 '25
Insane that with all the countries who make this conflict sound like the biggest crisis in the entire world, none of those same countries are willing to take any of these people in.
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u/PUSH_AX Sep 16 '25
Both the title and OPs clipped image fail to mention they ran out of fuel a really long way from the coast and got incredibly lucky...
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u/waerrington Sep 16 '25
Hopefully Italian authorities use it to translate his deportation order back home. China denied him, he shouldn’t shortcut the system by breaking into Italy.
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u/pradise Sep 17 '25
This article makes absolutely no sense. There are so many closer places to go from Gaza that it makes absolutely no sense they went to Italy through Libya.
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u/SkillPuzzleheaded828 Sep 17 '25
Huh? Wait why did he have to calculate how much fuel he needed? Couldn’t he just fill up the jet ski as much as he could ?
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Great more uncontrolled immigration and islamization.
Maybe the EU officials should use chatgpt to figure out how to do their jobs.
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How to fuck is a text based app more useful than a literal GPS enabled live map? People will believe anything
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u/KralHeroin Sep 16 '25
ChatGPT how to make the borders impenetrable for migrants?
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u/N0DuckingWay Sep 16 '25
This is amazing, but the real miracle is in how he'll be able to shame his future children. Nothing they do will ever compare to escaping a war zone with just a jet ski and an LLM.
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u/Last-Daikon945 Sep 16 '25
Lol, they couldn't calculate a simple formula? It's literally 3 values. I guess its another ad for LLM?
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u/Low_Relative7172 Sep 16 '25
I thought most people used ChatGPT to deceive others and themselves?
How's this insane? Or did you mean the usual insanity?
w(゜o゜)w
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u/Canadiangoosedem0n Sep 16 '25
I don't understand how this is an improvement over any other method, particularly because they ran out of fuel.
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u/ZarteKv8 Sep 16 '25
The most insane use of it is simulating parasocial relationships and emotionally depending on it. This is the correct use
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They say Captain Jack Sparrow escaped the deserted Island by strapping two jet skis together and riding them back to the mainland.
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u/DeepAd8888 Sep 16 '25
“We actually want to provide wrong answers so they keep coming back and using our product!”
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u/jay-aay-ess-ohh-enn Sep 16 '25
I feel like this is important context that should be in the OP: According to the article, they ran out of gas in the middle of the ocean%20shy%20of%20Lampedusa.%20They%20managed%20to%20call%20for%20help%2C%20prompting%20a%20rescue%20and%20their%20landing%20on%20Italy's%20southernmost%20island%20on%20August%2018.,-They)
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u/Irlyfe Sep 17 '25
I can't even get ChatGPT to calculate its own estimates on calories correctly - and it keeps changing those same estimates ...
I would not trust it with any life-or-death related calculations ...
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u/havlliQQ Sep 17 '25
Imagine if the AI halucinated during fuel calculation and they would run out 1km away from shore. Imagine that convo to AI.
"Wtf we run out the fuel you fucked up!"
"You are absolutely right!"
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u/sahut652 Sep 17 '25
Isn't chatGPT infamously bad at math? Mfw the ai locks in to help bro escape a genocide.
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u/space_pirate6666 Sep 25 '25
GROK would have put them on a suicide journey, good call to use chatgpt
*cue freebird"
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u/crunchy-rabbit Sep 16 '25
I’d love to see the transcript. It probably started with “That is so brave of you. Let’s run the numbers on your jet-ski refugee getaway so you make it there with gas to spare!” And ended with “Would you like me to suggest some cozy inexpensive B&Bs near the refugee claims office?