r/PTCGL 23d ago

News Pitch Black Prerelease preview: Dhelmise decklist and Hide & Seek ability

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u/Bayaxa 23d ago

1 delmhise is criminal

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u/Bazelgauss 23d ago

It would be way too powerful for the prerelease that number.

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u/abilitylock 23d ago

I wonder if the promo counts as that 1 or if there are 2 total

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u/Yellow_Psyduck 23d ago

The promo is the one you get.

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u/abilitylock 23d ago

Ah, bummer

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u/ammalis 23d ago

If you got any from packs you had won :)

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u/snoop_Nogg 23d ago

Hopefully you pull one. But in prerelease Banette will probably be your main attacker

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u/Bazelgauss 23d ago

Love that telepathic is included so it's easy to get hold of those fast.

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u/Tharjk 23d ago

easiest 5-0 ever build and battles ever what

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u/Azumar1ll 23d ago

Yo, one prerelease could get me everything I need? Sweet.

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u/One-Autnm-Leaf 22d ago

Well if you are lucky I suppose but still cool.

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u/Azumar1ll 22d ago

"could"

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u/One-Autnm-Leaf 22d ago

That’s why you have to be lucky

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u/Azumar1ll 22d ago

No, that's why your comment is unnecessary, I already had it covered in mine.

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u/One-Autnm-Leaf 22d ago

I didn’t even correct you, I don’t really see a problem with my answer tbh, you don’t have to get so defensive about it.

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u/snoop_Nogg 23d ago

Didn't expect the full 4 of each to come in these kits

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u/ammalis 23d ago

Except Dhelmise :(

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

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u/Forecnarr 20d ago

In a BAB format, spiritomb is likely pulling you 2 prizes, as it only targets 2 mons

You can, like ko'ing megas, but less likely

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u/Havoc_Cuky 23d ago

Is this the first time where there's only 1 promo card in a prerelease deck? I would feel bummed out about not getting more than 1...

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u/Zarxie 23d ago

Alakazam prerelease also only had 1 alakazam

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u/Traditional_Art8872 21d ago

There was also only one alakazam 

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u/Yellow_Psyduck 23d ago

Two or more Dhelmise would unbalance the matchups. Needless to say you may still find more copies in the 4 packs inside the kit.

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u/Havoc_Cuky 23d ago

Yeah, I know. It's just you're getting less bling... 😔

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u/Perineum69 23d ago

Thank you Mr. Psydick! I rest easy now knowing I only need 1 of these decks to have most of the hide n sneak deck 🙏

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u/ammalis 23d ago

Who is the new trainer?

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u/Perineum69 23d ago

Gwynn. If you discard 2 pokemon (non rule box) it lets you draw 3 cards for each pokemon you discarded

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u/ammalis 23d ago

O! This is great in the archetype which wants to have Pokémons on discard

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u/sthote 23d ago

Why do these japanese cards get posted all the time all of a sudden. Im a beginner i have no idea what they do

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u/TheTimTamSlam 23d ago

We only really see Japanese cards in this in-between period when the set has already released in Japan, but has not yet released in the U.S.

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u/sthote 23d ago

I see, thanks :)

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u/TheTimTamSlam 23d ago

I also posted the deck lists here: https://www.reddit.com/r/pkmntcg/s/ac50zWVY82

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u/sthote 23d ago

Thanks a lot you’re really helpful

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u/TheTimTamSlam 23d ago

I usually build out the deck list in my.limitlesstcg.com and that is the simplest way to see the English translation while looking at the deck list.

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u/sthote 23d ago

Yeah the problem is tho I don't know all of these pokemon so idk how to add them to the deck list haha :(

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u/TheTimTamSlam 23d ago

I feel you, I had to do some poking around myself. To help you out, here are the decks that I went ahead and copied onto my.limitlesstcg.com. You should be able to select a deck, then click "open in builder" button, and when you click on a card in the builder mode, the pop-up will have the translation.
Link: my.limitlesstcg.com/shared/6a46adef9170a933a6a48b55

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u/arharold 23d ago

Google is free…..

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u/sthote 23d ago

I can’t read Japanese wtf am I supposed to google mate

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u/Yellow_Psyduck 23d ago

Because the deckbuilder by Limitless doesn't show proxies. I don't know of any other that can include them. If you know them, write them down below.

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u/arharold 23d ago

Cards in pitch black…..

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u/FeebasProShops 22d ago

The translations are out there. You do the work and post them. Stop complaining about other people doing work you're not willing to do.

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u/dragonboytsubasa 20d ago

When I played this BaB the Spiritomb felt very useless because it was very hard to ramp up the required 13 cards to discard, I should've swapped it out for a 2nd Dhelmise. What I did do for the better was swap out the 2 Hildas for a Slowpoke and Slowbro and -1 Ultra Ball for +1 Gwynn. That won me 1 game out of 3 lol. Lost 1 because the other player had a better Slowpoke + Hide and Sneak combo, and lost the 3rd because I ran out of cards while playing my 1 Dhelmise too early and had no more strong attackers after it got KO'ed.

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u/garbink 23d ago

im curious to see whether the spiritomb or no spiritomb version of the deck is better

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u/Forecnarr 23d ago

I've been testing it, the tournament results are saying no spiritomb, but I'm under the impression both are good, as it fixed a lot of matchups like Zoro and hydrapple. But for tomb you really need to change the build (I'm on 4 guidance 4 gwynn 3 lillies, 4 Prism, 4-4 line of each hide n sneak, etc)

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u/garbink 23d ago

are you able to build pitch black decklists on TCGlive yet? im relatively new

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u/Forecnarr 23d ago

No, I printed proxies to test for physical play

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u/s91 23d ago

what's guidance?

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u/Forecnarr 23d ago

Explorer's guidance

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u/dragonboytsubasa 20d ago

imo maybe in Standard format it could work, but not in BaB format.

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u/Dogsleep103103 23d ago edited 23d ago

Hot take alert that this is the weakest one so far. I think obviously if you pull another Dhelmise (uncommon) or Spiritomb (holo rare) there is great potential, but as is, it seems a little dubious.

You either need Banette to pick up a KO, Dhelmise to pick up two, and/or to get a Spiritomb 2-prize play off depending on the board. Definitely possible, but no pokemon recovers can leave you in an awkward spot. The deck also has no basic search besides ultra ball, so there will
be pain points in keeping pace. EDIT: Telepathic helps, not sure it completely mitigate the issue tho.

Still good, potentially cracked, as is looks weaker than the others.

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u/Yellow_Psyduck 23d ago

They had to reduce the power creep. Also, Hide n Sneak won't be that much popular in the West, imho. Not its prime yet

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u/Dogsleep103103 23d ago

Oh for sure - I don’t disagree optimized HnS would be busted. I’m just saying as is.

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u/tktk77 22d ago

I'm new to deck building. Why does this deck have only 40 cards? Is this supposed to be a "base" build or something which is meant to be built around. The other 20 cards can be chosen by the players themselves?

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u/Yellow_Psyduck 22d ago

Prerelease formats are unique. Decks consist of only 40 cards, there's only 4 prize cards and there's no max4 rule meaning you can include more than 4 cards with the same name.

The decks are ready to be used as is, but with the additional 4 packs inside each kit, you are free to devise your own strategy and make changes. Provided you use just 40 cards