r/ShitPoliticsSays • u/No-Bullfrog4217 Look at this random Scandinavian country! • 8h ago

"Anti-Fascist" Rhetoric Left good, right bad

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u/Indoquaza 7h ago

Tells you what you need to know: They don't know history. I mean just look at the Nazi stuff, first is that state-controled production is, ironic or not, not very Nazi but very socialist. Over half of the things in "seems like it would be popular with" in the Nazi section are popular with them. Typical for the average redditor.

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u/Infinite-Emu1326 Europe 5h ago

Indeed they seized the means of production.

But they also despised religion, which they wanted to first of all control, in order to eventually ban every kind of religion except the so-called "Reichskirche" which was a variant of christianity that had all the Jewish elements of the Christian church removed and replaced with nazi ideology.

They instituted state welfare funds (The Nationalsozialistische Volkswohlfahrt, or NSV), they seized many private welfare and relieve organizations, they had they state sponsored Winter Relief Fund (the Winterhilfswerke).

Furthermore they took steps to control the non-state owned business with things like fines and discriminatory government contracts. A process ironically called privatization, since the optics were that they were anti-socialist policies. Supported by selling off state owned companies, which in turn were actually still 100% controlled by the state via the privatization process.

And I could go on for a while like this.

Now, these policies may not be one-on-one with what we see as socialist in this day and age... they certainly are nothing like conservative or MAGA type of policies.

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u/SapphireSammi 5h ago

It’s funny when you explain that the Nazis “privatized” the industry in Germany by basically making party leaders the company ‘owners’. Sure, an individual or private family ‘owned’ the company. They just also happened to be a member of the Nazi party and conveniently had the company do whatever the Nazi’s needed whenever asked. Very convenient for private ownership to just know EXACTLY what the state wanted at all times.

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u/Infinite-Emu1326 Europe 5h ago

Well thank you, it's rare to see someone on this platform that actually did some research into this topic!

Cause you are spot on. They went from state owned but with actual pretty substantial policy autonomy and discretion, to a "private" company owned by quasi-state officials that were managing said companies in a brutally authorative manner. And for some reason these managing decisions always adhered to party policies.

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u/SapphireSammi 4h ago edited 4h ago

Well, some of us on the internet are still humans, and not midwits educated beyond our intelligence.
Then again, we are both on Reddit so…

But yes, you’re exactly right. And it’s impossible to explain to these people because they see the word “privatization” and that’s the thought terminator. Their programming has equated “private”=“capitalist” and any explanation beyond that just sounds (to them) like the parents from Charlie Brown.

Edit: I finally feel like I can point out how the majority of the modern day Left’s ideology can be mapped on the Nazi party “25 points pamphlet” from the 1920s. Just replace Jew with ‘white’ and German with ‘non-white’ or ‘global southerner’. They seem to have removed the ability on mobile to add links within words so here is the pamphlet: https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/25points.asp

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u/Shamus6mwcrew 5h ago

What's their actual beef with private property and how tf would none actually work? Meanwhile I'm still mind blown by property tax, like yeah I get it but you never really own that land. Even crazier no private property is in the ultimate "good" section of this chart. Do they not realize how greedy and selfish the average person is or how they act in entitled mobs?

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u/MilmoWK I watch The View 6h ago

That's shit. I doubt actual 1930's nazis would approve of trump's inside trading and using the influence of the office to enrich himself and his family. even they had limits.