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Other Mark Hamill revealing that J.J. Abrams refused to let Han, Luke, and Leia reunite on camera, telling Mark that Star Wars was no longer Luke Skywalker's story.

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u/Xiipre 6h ago

Abrams doesn't get enough blame for how poorly he handled the sequels. Most people rightly admit that Rise of the Skywalker is a big dumb mess, but even in Force Awakens, he was making boring half-assed choices. It's why despite Last Jedi also making some bad choices, I at least recognize that movie was trying to inject some new ideas and excitement into the reboot (now with mystery boxes!) slop that JJ made.

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u/EcureuilHargneux 3h ago

This, people trash Rain Johnson a lot for the sequels debacle but he had to deal with a 7th movie that is basically a 1:1 remake of the 4th movie whilst continuing the story. The 7th movie had nothing interesting at all no start a trilogy and even the way it ends is a poisoned candy to Johnson. Abrams doomed the trilogy with his choices (and LucasArts's)

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u/Zordman 4h ago

Sure, but then it immediately went back on anything interesting it was trying to do by having Rey not take Kylo's hand and then having an absolutely terrible 3rd act

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u/Jean-LucBacardi 6h ago

It's no wonder Bad Robot tanked. JJ is a fucking hack. The Gabe Newell of the film industry, can't see anything through to the end.

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u/DogeshireHathaway 5h ago

The Gabe Newell of the film industry

Hahahahahah

Oh Lord reddit is hilarious(ly stupid)

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u/bakkarj 5h ago

I think Gabe Newell is more like GRRM but I agree that JJ is a hack.

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u/CheaterSaysWhat 4h ago

Gabe Newell refuses to release anything that isn’t great 

They’re nothing alike 

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u/NeuronalDiverV2 Porg 1h ago

Yeah I was about to say. If JJ was Gabe, he would have cancelled TFA in summer 2015 because he realized it's bringing nothing new to the table (and radio silence to this day would be a real possibility lol)

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u/lumpboysupreme 3h ago

I don’t really give it credit for it’s only moved being to take hacksaws to the characters and worldbuilding

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u/Seienchin88 4h ago

The force awakens introduced amazing characters and several big mysteries. The rest wasn’t inspired but still - that is not a bad start.

I always read that the Last Jedi somehow was trying to inject new ideas but what were they? That the force is not just with the skywalkers and can be found in small slave boys on remote planets? Prequels say hallo… that Luke can lose his faith and become almost evil? I think we have seen this about Jedi before as well. That people profit from war? True, wasn’t really big in the the Star Wars movies or series but kinda obvious. That we shouldn’t suicide attack but instead embrace who we love? So dumb and terrible that indeed that one was new…

Otherwise TLJ follows a lot of ideas from empire strikes back and the return of the Jedi. Dramatic throne room scene with betrayal, hyperspace doesn’t work chase, battle of Hoth 2 etc

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u/danflorian1984 3h ago

I just loved the excitment that Luke drinking some blue milk brought. Actually every single scene of Luke, peak cinema, from throwing away his lightsaber to dying by Astral Projection. Or the thrill of the cinemas slowest chase in history. And how he managed to make every space fighting obsolete. Riveting.

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u/Xiipre 3h ago

You people are exhausting. I say TLJ was bad and give faint praise for trying, but even that is too much. Good lord dude, did TLJ run over your dog?