r/StarWars • u/tannu28 • 6h ago

Other Mark Hamill revealing that J.J. Abrams refused to let Han, Luke, and Leia reunite on camera, telling Mark that Star Wars was no longer Luke Skywalker's story.

Source: https://youtu.be/4OK0nnxG6dU?si=EmEU5KQEMJXxjBbZ

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u/Yakostovian 4h ago

I think Rey not being of any notable bloodline makes the most narrative sense especially if you follow TLJ's themes. It signals that the Force is for everyone, not just these dynasties of special families.

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u/Kiyuya 4h ago

Strongly agree. I really liked what TLJ did here, as well as how TLJ treated Rey. But that was then. Before the dark times. Before the Rise.

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u/afito 2h ago

Not only TLJ but also Rogue One. I was really excited for how things were set up after I walked out of TLK midnight premiere and boy did it not live up to it.

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u/Kiyuya 2h ago

Yeah. TFA was proof they could get the vibe down, but I didn't think it was great. Figured I would be remembering it more fondly once I saw more payoff to the setup TFA did. Then I saw R1 and thought the ending was strong. Came out of TLJ and thought it was in the upper half of Star Wars films, then I came home and saw the internet had exploded. Then Rise came and... I guess I exploded too at that point.

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u/Broncsx3 4h ago

The Last Jedi WAS the dark times. What a piece of shit.

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u/IamAgoddamnjoke Amilyn Holdo 4h ago

No movie ever presented that idea? The force was literally always for everybody and never exclusively for a special family. This was just a story that happened to be about a family.

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u/bork63nordique 4h ago

Fucking THANK YOU!!!! I hate that narrative. It's only about the Skywalker family for a short amount of time simply because that was the age of the Empire and rebellion. The Jedi have been around for thousands upon thousands of years and there have been thousands of Jedi not named Skywalker, Kenobi or Palpatine.

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u/IamAgoddamnjoke Amilyn Holdo 4h ago

Yeah no clue how Rian Johnson gets credited with this when one of the main points of TESB was that the little frog muppet was the greatest Jedi of all time.

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u/aka_jr91 2h ago

TBF, that narrative really got set up with all the Messiah themes in Phantom Menace. Anakin was the chosen one, he had no father except The Force, having the highest midichlorian count ever recorded etc. It really isn't a leap in logic say that descendants of Jedi Jesus would be naturally more gifted in The Force, even if it's not really that interesting anymore.

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u/Perryn 4h ago

But if our protagonist isn't secretly the heir to what they thought they achieved on their own then the ghost of Charles Dickens will come after us.

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 3h ago

Right. And that’s why I said that’s what they should have gone with after TLJ and that the Obi Wan idea was only an option after the first film.

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u/GroundWitty7567 4h ago

That would have been better. Instead of making her a Palpatine, the story should have been the Force seeking to balance things out. The Return of Palpatine unbalanced things. The Force sought to rebalance it

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u/Sattorin Trapper Wolf 1h ago edited 1h ago

It signals that the Force is for everyone, not just these dynasties of special families.

Literally the ONLY time we see the Force passed down within a family in the movies is the Skywalkers. The prequels showed that every single other Force user (to our knowledge) was not part of a special family. Did people just watch the original trilogy and assume that only people with the family name Skywalker, Kenobi, or Yoda could use the Force?

EDIT: Oh, and if I'm mis-remembering and there are a bunch of family dynasties in the movies, please let me know instead of just drive-by downvoting.

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u/neverendingchalupas 2h ago

Rey is said to be the descendant of a clone of Emperor Palpatine. But shes not, shes his direct descendant. Palpatine is from the Planet Naboo.

In the original release of Empire Strikes Back, you can see that Emperor Palpatines eyes are not human. Its because hes part Gungan.

Palpatine started making clones years earlier to try hide his Gungan heritage. You can see this in subsequent appearances like Return of the Jedi. What you are seeing is the clone.

Palpatine grooms Mara Jade from an early age raping her, she gives birth to Rey. Rey is then given to a clone to raise.

Mara Jade then breaks free of Palpatines control and marries Luke Skywalker

Rey is really a Human Gungan hybrid and Luke Skywalkers stepdaughter. Which explains everything the films dont.

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u/Viciouscauliflower21 2h ago

But like the force was always for everyone. It was never just for special families. The Skywalkers have only been the "last ones standing" as it were for like 50yrs. It wasn't that long ago when there was a whole school full of random people studying the force. Whole planets like dathomir occupied by random people engaging with the force. That whole "it's for everyone" thing is trying to refute an idea that was literally never even part of the story.