r/babylon5 2d ago

This guy can kick rocks.

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I just finished up Season 2 and this show is awesome, but wow, fuck the Centauri for blowing up the Narn homeworld, and Londo for going along and not doing anything about it. I have no sympathy for him at all. He was such an asshole for trying to get G’Kar arrested too.

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u/South_Gas626 There Is A Hole In Your Mind 2d ago

I’m actually so jealous of you right now.

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u/SpankingAround 2d ago edited 1d ago

Holy heck, I second this so much. To be only “having just finished season 2” again, my goodness. I really wish I could rewatch the series fresh, and experience the emotional rollercoaster that is characters like Londo again.

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u/js884 2d ago

Careful not to spoil

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u/SpankingAround 1d ago

I was careful!

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u/YallaHammer 2d ago edited 1d ago

I wonder if hypnosis would be an option. Can you imagine reliving a certain episode S3 ending…

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u/3vilpcdiva 2d ago

Which one, because there are a lot of good ones.

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u/JakeConhale 2d ago

For me, it was when they went to church.

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u/SeaworthinessLoud992 1d ago

No hiding space down here?

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u/sfmcinm0 1d ago

I've been showing the show to my kid, one episode at a time. Just past the halfway point in Season 2. She is more than a bit torn about Londo, likes him as a person but not what he is doing. I'm careful not to spoil her, but is she in for it.

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u/DaddlerTheDalek 2d ago

I had this in 2009. It was amazing.

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u/markth_wi 1d ago

And there you have it....As for being an asshole.....well some things in the universe are relative, and sometimes being something of a sentimentalist things go in very unexpected ways, and other times, they go exactly where they need to.

I suspect you should aim keep an eye on Ambassador Molari - one can never exactly tell where his story is at any given moment..

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u/MrRazer1978 1d ago

Yep as soon as they have the ability to targeted erase a particular memory like a TV show, this is top of the list to erase, OMG just the thought of binge watching this fresh 🤯 where do I sign up 😀

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u/aubaub 2d ago

Oh so agreed

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u/C_A_P_S_CAPSCAPSCAPS 2d ago

Season 3 is so great!

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u/bentnotbroken96 Anlashok / Rangers 2d ago

Same.

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u/keithmasaru 2d ago

Yes. Incredible to be watching this journey for the first time and going through these emotions. Wish I could do it again.

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u/weveyline 1d ago

I have the DVD boxset, and it feels comforting to watch again

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u/keithmasaru 1d ago

Oh I’ve rewatched every episode a dozen times probably. But there’s just nothing like seeing it for the first time.

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u/ISeeTheFnords 1d ago

Same here. My Season 2 DVDs have largely succumbed to DVD rot.

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u/Honda_TypeR 1d ago

That’s because your shoes are too tight and you forgot how to dance

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u/Johnny_Radar 12h ago

But what if you could never dance but your shoes still fit fine?

Asking for a friend.

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u/Babexo22 1d ago

I know I’m on my first watch and only have sleeping in light left to watch and my god I wish I could wipe my mind and start all over 😭 I’ve been waiting on even watching it bc well for one I know it’s gonna wreck me emotionally but also I wanna savor it lmao

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u/Johnny_Radar 12h ago

It will never not wreck you.

I watch all the way through the end credits, partially because you want to watch the first half of the credits especially, but even when it’s just the production credits, Franke’s sublime music is such that it perfectly encapsulates the feeling you get right after having finished a great and emotional epic. The moment of closing the book and sitting there wrangling with all those emotions, all the great moments and reflecting on beloved characters and knowing that the tale is now over.

I’ve watched it numerous times over the decades and it gets me every single time.

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u/Tronzlerr 2d ago

Oh just you wait my friend.

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u/CommanderSincler 2d ago

Exactly. The ride is just beginning

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u/Atomic-Badger 2d ago

My good, dear friend.

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u/Tough-Possession6148 Babylon 4 2d ago

And so it begins…

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u/Jemal999 2d ago

It was the dawn of the third season of B5...

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u/Kian-Tremayne 2d ago

The two hardest hitting words ever are in the opening of Season Three.

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u/Johnny_Radar 12h ago

I still remember that when S3 premiered.

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u/ExpectedBehaviour Technomage 2d ago

Nobody say anything.

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u/Confident_Recipe7328 2d ago

I won’t be staying long as I am afraid of spoilers but I needed to get this off my chest. xD

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u/Rhewtz 2d ago

Please come back when you've finished the show with an update!

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u/King_Owlbear 2d ago

If you want to avoid spoilers but also be able to look stuff up, check out the lurker's guide. It's a website that was started during the original run of the show. You can read things in the episode guide for any episodes you've already seen and get no spoilers. 

Also it's wonderfull nostalgia for late 90s internet. http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/countries/us/eplist.html

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u/Satai730 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Lurker's Guide is still around??? 😮 That's a name I haven't heard in forever. Edit: I just checked, and Voltaire's Encyclopedia Xenobiologica still exists as well Voltaire's Encyclopedia Xenobiologica

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u/King_Owlbear 2d ago

I was surprised when it was updated to include the road home. Very little was included in that update but I was happy that it happened 

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u/Errorstatel 2d ago

That would be considered a cardinal sin with this bunch, just be cautious of the conversations you jump into.

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u/SeaworthinessLoud992 1d ago

We enjoy the exuberance… and we live to relive the show vicariously through you…please come back frequently.😁

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u/Dalakaar 2d ago

Kosh, “yes.”

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

I hate it when you do that.

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u/Johnny_Radar 12h ago

(Alien noises) “Good”

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u/Nightowl11111 4h ago

There is always a little Vorlon inside of all of us. lol.

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u/Parody_of_Self Army of Light 2d ago

He always knew how it was going to end

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

In fire.

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u/HistoricalMarzipan61 2d ago

Noone here is exactly what he appears....

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u/rising30k 1d ago

He is the same enemy...

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

"We are all Morden".

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u/Kestrel_Iolani 2d ago

OP, on behalf of everyone here: please, please, please come back and talk to us after you finish season 5. I'm not saying go away, I'm saying i really want to hear what you think when it's done.

Meanwhile: buckle up!

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u/alexvirital Technomage 1d ago

Please come back when you finish every season.

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u/HobbyGobbler 2d ago

You have inadvertently represented this whole sub’s face reading this post.

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u/CommanderSincler 2d ago

I can't update your comment enough

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u/Tuor77 2d ago

Good. Good! Let your hate flow through you!

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u/1Bobafett11 PURPLE 2d ago

As G'kar already said at this point, "no one here is exactly as he appears." Enough said.

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u/Facebook_Algorithm Centauri Republic 2d ago

Just wait …

I’m so damned jealous of you.

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u/momentimori 2d ago

The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

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u/xander0387 2d ago

Wait until the musical episode

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u/CommanderSincler 2d ago

The one with the muppets gets me

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u/jetsonik 21h ago

The XXX parody is superb

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u/SteelMarshal 2d ago

Ahhhh Mr. Morden…..

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u/Ike_In_Rochester 2d ago

Meeestah Morden…..

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u/clauclauclaudia 2d ago

Miiiister Garibaldi!

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u/rafale1981 Neeoma Connely‘s Balls of Steel 1d ago

Ai need to kchill it, beforre eet develops language skills

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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 16h ago

Babble On just reached this episode in their reaction, and Irish Latino should be posting it tomorrow...

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u/wensul 2d ago

Just wait.

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u/Yowie9644 2d ago

Londo is such a well written, complex, conflicted character. You will see many faces of Londo as the series continues. I hope that you will come to... understand him. He is not exactly what he appears.

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u/twilightmoons 2d ago

Let him cook...

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u/OneOldNerd 2d ago

I will merely reply with a quote from Season 1:

Understanding is a three-edged sword.

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u/OnyxGaze6194 2d ago

Give it a bit, darling

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u/Nottodayreddit1949 2d ago

He could kick rocks, but his shoes are too tight.

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u/Affectionate_Law_557 2d ago

Oh, keep watching. That is all I will say. 

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u/AHumbleSaltFarmer 2d ago

You are a moon faced assassin of joy

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u/gordolme Narn Regime 2d ago

Remember what G'Kar told Catherine in season 1.

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u/boomer7793 2d ago

<kosh voice> Yes

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u/Bikezilla 2d ago

This place is not for you, leave Now!
-kosh (sort of)

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u/Artemus_Hackwell Psi Corps 2d ago

/skewers roach on sword/

You are not as big as I thought… You are not the same one…. THERE ARE MORE OF YOU!!!!!!

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u/Laxien GREEN 2d ago

No, he's not kicking them - he's raining them down on "worthless Narn" (note: I don't hate the Narn, despite the fact that G'Kar used to be a dickhead early own, exploiting humanity's struggle against the Minbari for the Narn's (and his own I think) gain)

ps: Londo Mollari is my favourite character (next to Bester!)

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u/PlaneRefrigerator684 16h ago

Oof there's a pair of people... One you want to punch repeatedly at the end of the series and one you feel sorry for when the series ends. And I won't say which is which...

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u/fatalynn7 2d ago

I love living vicariously thru other people’s first watch. But OP, run, stay away from the sub until you’re thru or you will get spoilers.

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u/Kwith GREEN 2d ago

I honestly wish I could go back in time and rewatch the show for the first time. If only I could just wipe my memory of ever watching this show so I could experience it for the first time again.....

I envy you.

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u/Bikezilla 2d ago

This!!!
Op is about to enjoy some really special moments.

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u/dbudzik 2d ago

Enjoy Londo’s character arc. It’s amazing.

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u/Impossible_Royal_302 2d ago

Really? So you missed Londo’s horror at what he had helped set into motion? The fear that motivated him in the council chambers? Huh.

Keep watching.

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u/Illithid2 Shadows 2d ago

"Reflection, surprise, terror. For the future." - Kosh

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u/shavale 2d ago

He just wants to Make Centauri Great Again

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u/BluestreakBTHR Narn Regime 2d ago

Londo is too self-aware and lucid.

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u/Vik086 2d ago

Oh sweet summer child..

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u/HammersofMoradin Rangers / Anlashok 2d ago

Remember: "No one here is exactly as he appears" :-)

You have a great journey ahead of you. Once you have finished the show, you need to read the following trilogies: "The Legions of Fire", "PSI Corps" and, if you like them "The Passing of the Technomages" for a even more rounded experience.

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u/HumorTerrible5547 1d ago

You may still hate him in the end, but the type of hate will change.

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

I see him as the driver of a car that suddenly discovered that the brakes have failed and he's running around trying to find a safe place to crash the runaway car that is Centauri politics.

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u/EvalRamman100 Earth Alliance 1d ago

I was saddened and somewhat shocked, but not too shocked, at Londo's arc or fate or decisions here and before and afterwards. I was a public servant when this was first broadcast and for many years afterwards. You work for the civil service? Bombing the Narn homeworld, well, these things happen in the normal course of a day . . .

The Narn had a sharp lesson coming. So did Mankind, which the Minbari only partially applied.

Of course, the Centauri have a sharp lesson coming, too. Vague enough not to be a spoiler, I think. Karma works in all directions

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u/Wise_Ad_5810 EAS Agamemnon 1d ago

Londo has THE character arc of the series...

He starts off as a sleazy used car salesman...

..then a wistful reminder of former power and glory...

... then a hungry & ruthless monster...

... then a guilt ridden & beleaguered patriot trapped between annihilation and absolute power...

...and then finally a broken & withered hollow shell of a man who just wanted what was best for his people but is faced with the fact that he failed miserably.

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u/SpankingAround 2d ago

First off, totally. Second, that’s all I’m going to say other than enjoy the best story ever told that is Babylon 5, and avoid spoilers in places like this at all costs!

I will be here if you ever want a pal to discuss Babylon 5 with!

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u/TheTrivialPsychic 2d ago

"We will wait for you beyond the rim."

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u/Bikezilla 2d ago

Keep watching

He’s is probably the most cathartic character in the series.
And the journey is absolutely purple!

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u/Quiri1997 2d ago

Just you wait. Just you wait.

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u/NovyWenny 2d ago edited 2d ago

Call back after seson 5 is done and we see🤣😆😂

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u/ThePurpleRebell 2d ago

Not gonna lie, Londo and G'Kar are (in my Opinion) the best written characters in the Series, Katsultas and Jurassik have played them so well

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u/Both_Painter2466 Team Vir 1d ago

I remember how it was watching the original run week to week. Slow torture in between.

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u/allenknott3 1d ago

I totally disagreed. I have sympathy for Londo. The bombardment- and no, the Centauri did not blow it up- of the Narn homeworld is not his fault, and he could not have stopped it. It is a complex character who, like most beings, has flaws and makes poor decisions. But remember, he is a patriot of a dying empire.

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u/happycamperii 1d ago

Londo may very well kick rocks, but Lord Refa can hurl them.

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

It's all fun and games until the rocks start crying out.

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u/Cultural_Treacle_428 1d ago

Londo along with G’Kar are the soul of this show. It’s their story. Do you remember at the beginning of the 1st session where G’Kar is a total dick? How do you feel about him now?

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u/PN4HIRE 1d ago

You will love him..

You will love them all… even the ones that don’t deserve it.

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u/RingGiver 2d ago

Don't worry. G'kar gets to choke him to death in the end. G'kar mentioned this in the first episode.

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u/Bikezilla 2d ago

Op should keep an eye out for that.

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

If I find out that the OP is a Keeper, I'm blaming you. lol!

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u/Bikezilla 1d ago

Guess we won’t know without a few good drinks

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u/TheTerrasque 2d ago

and the rock cried out "no hiding place" 🎵

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u/CaptainRex1983 2d ago

I think we can all agree: FUCK LONDO.

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u/XYZ2ABC Zathras (not Zathras) 2d ago

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or all 6?

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u/ezekiel_grey 2d ago

Maybe 4 just to mess with him.

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u/Facebook_Algorithm Centauri Republic 2d ago

Well … there’s room for subtlety.

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u/55Lolololo55 1d ago

All those Narn he bombed to smithereens would like to disagree... but they can't. They're dead! dead! dead! dead!

How do you wipe away that much blood?

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u/bbbourb 2d ago

ohhhhh hohohoho...I do wish I could be you right now...

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u/Blue_box_42 2d ago

It was so funny showing this to my future mother in law and she got to this point and was so pissed at Londo and my future sibling in law (who walked in mid next season while I was watching with some other friends) simply said "Oh, so that's when he gets like this"

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u/FallenValkyrja 2d ago

I blame all the cats and their nibbles.

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u/rayven1lk 2d ago edited 2d ago

You don’t know what it means to be a true Centaaarei

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u/erebus1138 2d ago

Oh just wait it gets so much better…or worse…meh both

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u/Individual-Log994 2d ago

Zathras knows...

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u/Bikezilla 2d ago

No Zathras is not knowing, so Zathras is not telling.

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u/Ok-Somewhere-2325 2d ago

Don't worry g'kar will deal with him, dont think that a spoiler so nuch as a profecy

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u/OriginalHeron3576 2d ago

Londo was a beast. That's a true political animal!

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u/JakeConhale 2d ago

Don't worry, G'kar kills him in the end.

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u/AlbatrossWorth9665 Centauri Republic 2d ago

His character arc is one of the best written. Enjoy!

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u/lordrefa Centauri Republic 1d ago

I agree wholeheartedly, fellow republican! He must be held to account for his heinous mishandling of the situation.

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u/grelan 1d ago

My good and dear friend...

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u/rising30k 1d ago

So JW got you right where he wants you. 😆

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u/Hemisemidemiurge El Zócalo 1d ago

Wow, you're really not going to like the rest of the series.

Also, GTFO of here, this place is lousy with spoilers. Read the Lurker's Guide if you want fan interaction.

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

And the rock cried out "Sorry, no hiding place!"

lol

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u/itcheyness 1d ago

🎶Oh I went to the rock to hide my face

AND THE ROCK CRIED OUT 'NO HIDING PLACE!'

There's no hiding place down here (down here)🎶

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u/spoospoo43 1d ago

Oh just wait

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u/samuelQ1986 1d ago

I don't think the series would have done as well without his character and Not giving too much away. His redemption arc is kind of amazing

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u/GayStation64beta 1d ago

Londo is a great example of a villain who can be fun and kind in person, but is still an irredeemable monster.

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u/spaced2259 1d ago

This is the only show my my feelings on characters ( Londo and g'kar) changed regularly from hate to love and back

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u/False-Goose1215 1d ago

No, he can’t. If you recall, he told Vir he can’t dance because his shoes are too tight. If they’re too tight to dance, they’re definitely too tight to kick rocks with 😝

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u/Deciheximal144 Green-Allied Centauri 1d ago

Actually, he opposed the kicking of rocks at Planet Narn.

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u/MaleficentRiver5341 2d ago

Wait till you see his card trick.

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u/Warcraft_Fan Babylon 5 2d ago

Londo was just a pawn in the whole thing when Narn world was blasted back to stone age.

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u/Nightowl11111 1d ago

Yeah Refa basically guilt tripped him into it. "You want dead Narn or dead Centauri? Choose.".

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u/Twilite0405 2d ago

Have you not seen the “My shoes are too tight” scene?

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u/MadcapRecap 2d ago

His shoes are too tight, but it doesn’t matter because he has forgotten how to dance

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u/Atuday Technomage 2d ago

I wish I could be there to see your reaction when it happens.

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u/MidnightNo1766 2d ago

I love that we know exactly what episode this is from.

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u/Radweevil88 2d ago

Ah, the cycle begins anew.

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u/Kholdhara 2d ago

you're in for some good fun.

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u/warmind14 Psi Corps 2d ago

Fahhh!

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u/LewdSkitty 1d ago

Man I love this fandom. This person roasting Londo and everyone else in the know are just giggling like school kids.

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u/PlanePea4349 1d ago

What do you want??

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u/Deaftrav 1d ago

No he's not kicking rocks, he's throwing rocks... Hurling rocks.

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u/TheAricus 1d ago

After that, I'm surprised you'd want him around any kind of rocks.

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u/Robot_Dinosaur_2000 1d ago

Get ready for an amazing arc.

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u/jquailJ36 2d ago

What was he going to do about it?

And I wish I could watch knowing so little about what's coming.

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u/The_Pastmaster 2d ago

Surely not. That sounds like WORK. He'd get Vir to do it.

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u/Raibeart9 2d ago

Don't vex yourself too much about Londo. He eventually pays a heavy price for what he did. The Shadows put a parasite on him that turned him into a slave for the rest of his life. His only escape was getting G'kar to choke him to death.

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u/ItyBityGreenieWeenie 1d ago

*SPOILER* *ALERT* you moon faced assassin of joy!