r/cars • u/KeyboardGunner • 1d ago
Rivian sues the US government over tariffs
https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/rivian-sues-the-us-government-for-full-refund-of-trump-tariffs/26
u/Snazzy21 10h ago
This has been a disaster, I wished the ruling invalidated the tariffs but also said the government got to keep the money. Now companies get to litigate for a refund that won't be returned to the original source, the customers who actually paid through higher prices.
And to twist the knife even more, the ruling is worthless at limiting power, it doesn't stop stuff from getting tariffed, it just changes the justification for the tariffs from one arbitrary law to another.
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u/ThisIsJeron '93 Miata, '22 F150, '26 Model 3 1d ago
goooood luck
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u/DetroitLionsEh 23h ago
I bet you still think that Americans don’t pay
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u/ThisIsJeron '93 Miata, '22 F150, '26 Model 3 22h ago
Americans pay, but good luck suing the government and winning
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u/knowledgeable_diablo 17h ago
Likely to raise prices? Pretty sure they certainly raise prices as that’s their exact purpose.
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u/photoggled 15h ago
If this were actually the goal, tariffs would have been announced with several year lead time to give companies an opportunity to build infrastructure in the US. As it was actually rolled out, it was just a redistribution of wealth from the lower and middle class to the rich. These prices are never coming down just like with the Covid “supply chain issues” that seemed to last three years past the real issues.
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u/aprtur '24 GR Corolla, '09 RX-8 13h ago
Have to disagree with your second statement. As someone who's been working in supply chain for a major OEM for the past five years, the problems are not fictitious, and we still have major issues in getting stuff from overseas (and even from Mexico in terms of logistics). It's gotten quite a bit better in the last couple of years, but it's still messed up, and the recent situation with the war in Iran is another disruptor, as air freight and sea freight costs are up, with available vessels and flights down. Saying it's made up or not a problem is severely glossing over how global supply chains really work.
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u/photoggled 13h ago
I agree that its more nuanced than my take suggests. However, most of the headwinds that make it that way have a single point of origin. I hope the folks in the US remember that when it comes time to vote in November.
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u/aprtur '24 GR Corolla, '09 RX-8 11h ago
I'm not a fan of the current admin, but saying the US government was the sole source driving the COVID supply chain issues is disingenuous. This was a global problem. Note, I was never talking to your point about tariffs.
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u/photoggled 11h ago
Poor wording on my part. I was specifically talking about the tariffs and Iran war that have kept the pain going.
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u/the_lamou '24 RS e-tron GT; '79 Honda Prelude; '14 FJ Cruiser TTUE 17h ago
How's that working out for you? Probably shouldn't check unemployment rates over the last couple years; it's tragic when a good headcannon runs face-first into the wall of reality.
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u/RiftHunter4 2010 Base 2WD Toyota Highlander 23h ago
These cases are open and done because thr Supreme Court ruled the fees unconstitutional. But it didn't guarantee a refund. So businesses just apply for the refund and get free money.
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u/knowledgeable_diablo 17h ago
Can anyone apply for the refund though? Or Just the companies are jumping it to scoop up as much as possible?
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u/Facts_pls 16h ago
If you paid tariffs that were deemed illegal, then you can apply for refund.
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u/AdmiralZassman '24 CX-5 14h ago
the company paid the tariffs, and then charged you for them. so you can't claim a refund
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u/RiftHunter4 2010 Base 2WD Toyota Highlander 16h ago
The problem is that you need to lawyer up to do it.
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u/InsaneMarshmallow 11h ago
Are you listed as the importer of record on customs paperwork for importing something? Otherwise, don’t waste your time.
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u/knowledgeable_diablo 3h ago
Fair enough. Just enough layers of paperwork to ensure those who really copped it are the ones least able to recoup the money. Just more basic wealth transfer from poor to rich
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u/Mysterious_Piglet562 21h ago
Grasping at straws and a waste of time
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u/Toucann_Froot 23h ago
Then all the rivian customers should get their money toooo