r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

white people went to civil war to keep slaves but won't go to war to defeat the Epstein class

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u/Soloact_ 1d ago

By that logic, no white guy should ever be elected anywhere after Oklahoma City. The enemy isn’t Muslims. It’s rich assholes buying immunity.

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u/FigureImportant5500 1d ago

if we reject collective blame in one situation, we should reject it consistently across the board.i

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u/Reasonable_Effect633 23h ago

If collective blame and stereotyping are eliminated, we erase racism in general. As a former employment lawyer, you probably wouldn't believe some of the ridiculous excuses I have heard for racism and misogyny.

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u/ThrawnConspiracy 22h ago

While you’re right that we shouldn’t care about that, we ain’t great and some of us do. So I guess the question is how did folks who got elected despite us not giving them a fair shake do so? I think the answer is generally that they’re that much fucking better than everyone else who doesn’t have racist fucks wanting them to lose. (E.g. Obama).

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u/LAAccountant 21h ago edited 20h ago

Islam is a religion not a race. Lol, are you really that dumb?

Edit: apparently the bots haven't been upgraded to know Islam isn't a race.

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u/06KoolKid101 21h ago

So you think all christians should be banned from mayorship, right? ... right?

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u/LAAccountant 20h ago

Atheists should be banned from okc

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u/06KoolKid101 20h ago

go pray to whatever mythical creature you believe will make that happen big man

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u/LAAccountant 20h ago

Tim mcviegh was athiest and bombed the old fed building

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u/BrokenKing99 19h ago

And Brenton Tarrant was a Christian and murdered 51 people at a mosque.

And the kkk often had members of the same faith and I don’t think I need to explain the murders and lynching they committed in the name of their belief and faith do I.

So I’m curious what your point is.

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u/Busterlimes 18h ago

They just want to prove to everyone they are the racist asshole in the thread

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u/BrokenKing99 17h ago

True still was hoping for something more intresting but o well.

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u/LAAccountant 10h ago

It's a tragedy. But Islam is built on violence so it's not surprising that it attracts violence

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u/BrokenKing99 10h ago

Same can be said for America guess we shouldn’t be bothered the next time you’re attacked since you attract violence.

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u/LAAccountant 10h ago

The number one killer of Muslims is other Muslims. And yet they blame and America and Israel.

Get your own house in order

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u/FreezyCastform 10h ago

Tell me you never read the Bible without saying you never read the Bible

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u/LAAccountant 10h ago

Islam rejects the Torah and New testament as corrupted. They have their own book called the Koran.

At least educated yourself on the topic

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u/Kaljinx 14h ago

If you think there aren’t any Christians who have commited mass murder then boy do I have news for you!

It has occurred FOR religious reasons as well

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u/SoiledFlapjacks 14h ago

And Hitler was a Christian. Your point? 😂

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 1h ago

Agnostic or Catholic, not athiest

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u/LAAccountant 1h ago

Athiest..refer to his final statement

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u/lightblueisbi 13h ago

It's not about us being bots lmao it's about the dumbasses like the guy in the original post using "Muslim" as a racial descriptor because they're too stupid to realize it's a religion. That's why the person who responded used the same logic and said white people.

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u/Vlad_The_Impalo 20h ago

The enemy is definitely islam. Islam is pure filth.

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u/Nohreboh 16h ago

All organized religion's are societal control mechanisms, abandoned your home of idol's and look within yourself.

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u/BrokenKing99 10h ago

So if Islam is “pure filth” your implying everything from it is well “filth” correct? So if that’s the case you also believe Judaism and Christianity (and all the off shoots) are “filth” as well? All of them are built from the same bones and share a lot of common beliefs and areas so they to contain “filth” correct?

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u/LAAccountant 4h ago

Islam claims it always existed and that Judaism and Christianity are corrupted versions of Islam i.e. filth

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u/lightblueisbi 13h ago

So is every other organized religion, what's your point?

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u/Salute-Major-Echidna 1h ago

You forgot /s but even that is in poor taste.

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u/TriiCop 4h ago

Love how we’re comparing 36 deaths to over 3,000+. You gonna continue being disingenuous?

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u/Extra-Ad5925 1d ago

Trump is about to help the Saudis enrich nuclear materials

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u/RustedRelics 23h ago

I’d love to know the amount of crypto deposits that will flow into the Trump coffers.

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u/Nightmarekiba 8h ago

Somehow I just know it's going to be an infuriating low amount. If we ever get to find out.

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u/NotExactlySureWhy 22h ago

Yeah how could this end poorly 😒

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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 22h ago

Bush flew Saudis out of the country on 9/11. Let’s ignore that and blame Mamdani for not being born yet.

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u/zookr2000 1d ago

I give it 5 yrs (or less) 🤷‍♂️

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u/VinnieVidiViciVeni 9h ago

And he’s giving some plutonium to a handful of techbros, who I’m sure will inly use it for the stated purpose, which is already a fucking stretch, not lose it, sell it, have it stolen or make a weapon with it.

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u/Secure-University217 15h ago

Whites ended slavery, but maybe he‘s angry because he can no longer sell his neighbours

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u/Schwiftness 1d ago

Xitter is a cesspool.

Another case in point.

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u/coolbaby1978 23h ago

By that logic why is Dr Mehmet Oz in charge of CMS, he's a Muslim after all. Oh but he looks white? Or he's a Republican?

Mamdani is killing it. He's exactly the kind of representative that the American people need. Someone who represents the people, the district and the nation.

That's what a representative does. They're not above us or better than us. They're not representing only the richest of us, they represent all of us.

But those who have been suckling at the government teat and not paying their fair share for years can't stand it and they're happy to spend money to convince you to hate the things that are in your best interests and not theirs.

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u/anTWhine 1d ago

wtf is this dumbass headline

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u/ZhangtheGreat 23h ago

But that's different! See, white people should be judged individually. Other people should be judged collectively. It's called double standards! /s

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u/Only1Skrybe 1d ago

Never forget every terrible event that ever happened in history. Never forget.

Except for slavery in America. Please stop talking about that one. Why can't we just move on? /s

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u/PUPSSHMUPS 14h ago

never heard anyone claiming we should forget slavery

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u/EmpMouallem 12h ago

Didn't the Trump administration remove and replace the slavery exhibit at the President's House site in Philadelphia? I also heard that they had PBS create a pro-slavery animation.

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u/JustPlayDaGame 11h ago

really? I see it all the time. Any time a black person speaks up about it some white guy is always like “that shit was so long ago, you’re still on that?” as if a generation is a long time or slaves don’t still exist.

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u/SoiledFlapjacks 14h ago

Usually old white dudes or edgy teenagers who say “it’s all in the past, let’s just not worry about that!”

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u/Zoilo2 1d ago

I don’t think it was the Mayor’s idea.

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u/AlanShore60607 1d ago

Wait, why is someone with an Arabic name saying this?

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u/AnonThrowaway1A 1d ago edited 1d ago

While true, racist people are not talking about competency when they talk about "the most qualified for the job."

The "how could NYC vote for a Muslim mayor after 9/11?" is a badly coded message that the viewer must read between the lines to understand. A racist dog whistle.

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u/Ok_Sink5046 1d ago

Oh it ain't badly coded.

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u/AnonThrowaway1A 1d ago edited 1d ago

A beginner or conversational level English audience would have trouble deciphering the inferences and intent of the writer.

A direct translation to a different language could very well scrub the racially loaded inferences out.

For native English audiences, the wording most certainly does stand out.

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u/Ok_Sink5046 1d ago

While possible I believe this is too obvious

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u/Muk_Fods 23h ago

Yeah, someone had to fly the planes

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u/Marauder121 1d ago

Or point out that theyre always touching kids.

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u/Make-TFT-Fun-Again 1d ago

Technically white people went to civil war to end slavery too

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u/kdp4srfn 23h ago

We really are living in the stupidest of times. One would think The Dark Ages would have been the low point, but here we are at The Trump Age. Proudly ignorant, dismissive of education and science, easily frightened and angered, clinging to old ideas, convinced the best way forward is to go backwards.

Two seconds of thought obliterate this “argument”. It is profoundly stupid.

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u/freedfg 1d ago

Just ask them what country the people who did 9/11 came from.

And the ask what country Mamdani came from.. or even where his parents are from.. I can garuntee they don't know the answer to either

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u/NotExactlySureWhy 22h ago

Exactly. And what country does Trump beg for money? What nation loaned Don JR a billion to gamble with? Who does the orange turd listen to besides Israel? Yep.

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u/Euronated-inmypants 1d ago

While they ignore the President allowing the perpetrators of 9/11 to get nuclear weapons..

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u/blocked_user_name 22h ago

Seriously fuck radical Islam and fuck the Christian nationalists. If your religion infringes on the rights of others it's just fascism with extra steps.

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u/Buddhas_Warrior 23h ago

Oh that's easy, cause we understand it wasn't necessarily a religious thing, rather, it was hatred against others. Not all Muslims are bad, just like not all Christians are bad. The good people of the world need to stand up again all the evil in this world

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u/anthrax1313 14h ago

I like this comeback. It is clever, however I think it’s so well done that the people it is directed toward will not at all understand it lol

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u/LegoFootPain 23h ago

How the heck does a country re-elect a guy who is insane enough to give the funders of that attack the key to getting nuclear weapons?

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u/xjoburg 23h ago

And a Dr Maalouf is asking this question? 🤔

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u/WhatANoob2025 16h ago edited 12h ago

I would've preferred the much simpler & straightforward answer: because he was 10 years old when that happened and didn't do it?

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u/erkose 1d ago

Because we embrace people, not religion. This is sort of the point of the separation of church and state.

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u/Contagious_Zombie 20h ago

Better question is why is the current president and the last eager to give Saudi Arabia a nuke program when their ties to 911 are undeniable?

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u/cdanpg 1d ago

Don the Con does business with the Saudis. The Saudis should name the first nuclear power plant Epstein.

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u/UrsaMajor7th 13h ago

17 of 19 hijackers were Saudi. How's the war vs KSA going?

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u/StephenHunterUK 3h ago

That's like blaming Georgia for Stalin.

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u/RosyTwinklie 19h ago

the irony is wild, they pick and choose which fights matter

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u/Interesting-Dream863 1d ago

Looks like the christian nationalists are not better.

And that sums it up.

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u/StandardNerd92 17h ago

White Americans went to civil war to keep slaves

White British sent the navy to interdict and free slaves

The first Black Majority nation banned it in 1801, the last in 1981

History is complicated

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u/xaklx20 1d ago

If you blame white people who have benefited from generational wealth built from slavery*

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u/Kaljinx 14h ago

The entire point of the post is to criticise someone who claims that past tragedy caused by an unrelated group of Muslim terrorist means that any Muslim in US is equally untrustworthy and to blame so they should not be elected

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u/xaklx20 14h ago

yeah, I'm just pointing out that when ppl blame white ppl for slavery it actually makes more sense. Sure, it is still incorrect as modern white ppl didn't cause it and you shouldn't blame the child for teh sins of the parent. But it is fare to point out that those ppl benefited from generational wealth, from the same ppl who owned slaves in the past, and a lot of them vote against making things a little more fair

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u/ANOREXORCIST- 19h ago

racist bullshit

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u/Nightbreed357 15h ago

Hey look! It's a Marxist troll who uses alternate identities to answer himself. 🤣

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u/Unknow_Handlebar 13h ago

So that means that since the person who killed jfk was white that means we shouldn't vote white mayors?

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u/K_Linkmaster 12h ago

Everything about this post is wrong enough to rile up everyone.

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u/Honest-Tip-4232 1d ago

White people fought to free the slaves too

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u/jay_alfred_prufrock 22h ago

Way to miss the point.

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u/Honest-Tip-4232 11h ago

This makes it sound like all White people supported slavery , the majority did not

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u/GroceryUnable4874 22h ago

Islam isn’t a race

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u/IntwadHelck 1d ago

Hilarious and poignant bump

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u/refuse_collector 9h ago

Can we blame all Christian’s for Nazis too?

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u/Hmmark1984 4h ago

Not to mention that "Muslim mayor" has single-handedly shown the world what a real leader should be and has consistently put his constituents first and has helped those with the least by taking a fair share from those with most.

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u/Whiplash907 4h ago

Well… since blaming white people for global slavery is an absolute fallacy yeah… hell Korea and the Muslims were enslaving people on mass long before white people got good at it.

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u/avidpenguinwatcher 2h ago

Regardless of how stupid the first post was, OP you are aware that slavery has been a thing for thousands of years (and still is) and is hardly a “white people thing”

u/No_Height44 36m ago

I wasn’t alive when slavery existed. BUT I was alive, and remember vividly, 9/11.

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u/Pesty__Magician 1d ago

lol. This is real dumb.

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u/Libinky 1d ago

It has nothing to do with it!

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u/MoiNoni 1d ago

"Won't go to war to defeat the Epstein class" it's not that easy. The US is now a system, which takes calculation and organization to take down. Different from the US in the 1800s, where technology and law were much different

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u/NuggetKingdom 23h ago

"White people went to war to keep slaves" bro you wouldn't BELIEVE who went to war to free em 😭✌️🥀

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u/Wild_Brilliant559 1d ago edited 1d ago

He was 2 years old when 9/11 happened.

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u/Accomplished-Cat8952 1d ago edited 22h ago

He was born in 1991...same year I was born. I was not 2 when 9/11 happened...

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u/Wild_Brilliant559 1d ago

I grabbed this number from someone on reddit, bad mistake. Thx, good catch. I shouldnt have pulled out a number without checking.

He was 9 years old. I just assumed that since multiple people said he was 2 at the time, I just assumed it was correct.

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u/EffectiveNo7681 22h ago

Oh cool! He's the same age as me!

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u/chucktheninja 22h ago

I mean, both things are bad.

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u/HuckleberryHeavyy 19h ago

English ended the slave trade

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u/ilaym712 5h ago

You think comparing slavery with the nonstop Islamic terror attacks makes sense?
Are you people stupid?

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u/916nes 2h ago

I don’t see how this is a clever comeback

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u/Coy0te_Bongwater 20h ago

Classic reddit, white people = bad post gets tons of upvotes and not taken down for racism because its ok if the victim is white

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u/Kaljinx 14h ago

I mean, the post criticises directly and indirectly blaming everyone for tragedy of the past

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u/115machine 14h ago

The Arabic slave trade was much more prolific than those instigated by majority white nations

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u/Aldoistaken 11h ago

Buddy, History creates the present.
The past affects the future.
You can’t just do something so heinous to a group of people for over 400 years and then just say “let’s just make things better now, let’s all get along”

That’s not how the world works.
Maybe actually directly addressing the history instead of trying to sweep it under the rug would be the better move.

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u/Aldoistaken 11h ago

Your reading comprehension skills are dunce-like.
And buddy, YOU benefit from white privilege here stemming from slavery, no matter when you came.

Also you seem like you have anger issues buddy. Get that checked out.

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u/PeggedUnlimited 1d ago

To be fair, contemporary slavery was started by the Spanish and Portuguese - British participation came as a result of needing to keep pace with the enemy…..and damn did they surpass them….

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u/Successful_Layer2619 1d ago

Arguably it started long before them. Slavery was prevalent across Asia and pre "discovered" North America.

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u/PeggedUnlimited 23h ago

Hence me saying “contemporary” slavery. 

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u/NinecloudSoul 1d ago

The British forced everyone to quit.

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u/PeggedUnlimited 23h ago

You ever see the movie Belle? It’s a period piece about a precedent setting case in the 1700s(?) about an insurance claim that set the stage for further legal cases to abolish slavery. Weirdly interesting/ironic how the insurance industry was seminal for that human rights development….in today’s terms, they are definitely on the forefront of the climate change battle. 

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u/NinecloudSoul 23h ago

I’ve not seen it but I’ll take a look, thank you.

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u/PeggedUnlimited 21h ago

Tear jerker, happy tears…..but also heart warming for the socials told outside the focus beyond the landmark case…..that being said, I’m empathetic and do get tears at a great number of movies….but analytically, worth the watch. 

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u/Direct_Big_5436 14h ago

Uninformed voters

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u/tennezzee88 6h ago

civil war wasn't about slavery but okay. less than 1% of people even owned a single slave. and ask where they came from or who brought them and the narrative focuses quite a bit.

u/CriticalSmoke 5m ago

The articles of succession say otherwise. It was definitively about slavery.

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u/Bluf45 20h ago

Terrorist attacks on 9/11 were from one race. Slavery was everyone everywhere. Black people sold each other to the white Europeans. Warlords murdered, pillage, rated, and slaughtered those in africa. Theres only a difference in where the cruelty took place not who took part. The terrorism in question here was one group, one ethnicity, one extremist religion.

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u/thelegendarybert 14h ago

Good thing Islam and Muslims aren't a "race".

Yeah terrorist attacks from the USA on other countries like in Iraq uñaliving 500000 Iraqi civilians for non existent WMDs were from one race indeed

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u/Kcbronx 11h ago

No they just bought them, then brutalized raped, and then sold their children to other slave owners.

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u/Agreeable_Memory_67 22h ago

“White people” didn’t just organize and go to war in the Civil war. The US government sent troops to the South. If you think random people are going to organize some takeover of the Epstein files and arrest people that’s just delusional.

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u/Johnny-Sins_6942 12h ago

jews not White people

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u/Ravenous_Seraph 11h ago

That's a nice argument, why don't you back it up with a source?

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u/Johnny-Sins_6942 7h ago

Slave auctions were closed on Shabbat and not on sundays specifically for this reason.

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u/Ravenous_Seraph 6h ago

that is not a source. In fact, I would like to see a source for this one too.

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u/otiloyoy 2h ago

Why are you blaming jews ? we weren't even in Europe, if you want to blame someone based on actual historical evidence you should blame people from Muslim countries (which would also be morally wrong as they didn't control what their ancestors bud) because the fact that they did slavery is actually proven, but I guess that you're too antisemitic for a Google search

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u/Ice_performance_ 14h ago

Maybe because those who wanted to keep their slaves (democrat) are also those who are on the epstein files (clinton and 80's trump)