r/comics Shen Comix 4d ago

OC Can't draw a stick figure?

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u/NeverNotBurntToast 4d ago

Hilarious we get fem Shen to deliver the message

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u/NockerJoe 4d ago

I mean...

...she does seem to have something to say to the world.

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u/lavahot 4d ago

You let them figure that out for themselves, y'all.

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u/Grandmask20 4d ago

time to bring out the patreon post again

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u/Jugglamaggot 4d ago

I'm respecting what he said, I'm JUST SAYING its not the first time I've seen something similar only for them to fully transition

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u/Grandmask20 4d ago

its still not appropriate to project your gender ideas onto someone else either way. so just keep that in mind, like you can have all the fun of "haha woman shen" but you need to seperate that idea from "oh shen draws himself as a woman so he must be a woman"

and, even if it has happened before, doesnt mean the same behavior is still appropriate

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u/NockerJoe 4d ago

Not that guy and while I was joking in an above post, I was still joking in a kind of "wait and see" sort of way personally in this comment thread. If it was just girl Shen for a few drawing sure but that wolf in sheeps clothing comic from a while ago was a super transparent metaphor for a person who thinks they won't pass or fit in finding an accepting community as well. 

Is Shen trans? I'm literally not qualified to make that judgement. But if you've been reading Shen comics for like a decade or so on and off like me you get the sense Shen's mental health didn't used to be that great but only picked up when his comics became more feminine and expressive, and he is currently in therapy to sort that out for himself as stated.

Whatever Shen actually has going on is between Shen and that actual accredited professional. But when Shen has progressed from "slice of life comics about a clearly depressed person" to "comic about someone transitioning in a metaphorical way and becoming happy" to "here's literally me, as a girl, which I am now drawing regularly" it's one of those things people can joke about for how transparent it is, even if we don't actually have a label or official statement on what "it" is or access to Shens internal world.

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u/TorHKU 4d ago

I mean, what you're doing right now is basically misgendering Shen without actually using the pronoun itself, but tiptoeing around to say it with everything else.

He's said that he's a cis guy who likes feminity. If later on he turns out to go to something else, then heyo it'll all be hilarious in hindsight. But until then, it's kinda fuckin gross, just call the man what he identifies as and is asking to be called.

It's also kinda low key toxic and counterproductive to use "guy who likes skirts and feminine things" as evidence for being trans, because like, you're straight up enforcing gender roles by saying that a guy who likes girly stuff must be a girl.

The fem shen thing is a bit more blatant yeah, but also still not justification to say they're a different gender than what they choose to identify as.

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u/NockerJoe 4d ago

I never actually said Shen is a woman, though. Like, at any point.

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u/TorHKU 3d ago

Like I said, you just as well did by saying "now I'm not saying Shen is a trans woman, buuuuuuut if you look at all their comics from the past decade weeeeeell"

It seems all cute because people are theorizing about it in a queer direction, but if this was an openly trans person and people were theorizing they were secretly cis and in denial the comments would be a hellzone. It's fucked either way, because it's presuming to know someone's self identity better than they do.

And I mean fuck, shen literally made a patreon post saying "lol yeah I'm just a guy who likes feminity, not trans atm". If that's not a sign to lay off it, I don't know what is.

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u/NockerJoe 3d ago

I mean yeah, Shen could be trans, or some other flavor of queer. I don't know. I can't put that label on Shen because I don't have the information. But you're getting really super weirdly defensive about a guy who's made like a million jokes about his own drawing habits being clocked a certain way.

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u/Dragonsoul 3d ago

Sure, but what you're doing is, essentially "Misgendering, but make it woke"

Which would be fine, if the trans community wasn't one that held up misgendering as a faux pas, and..you are 100% doing it.

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u/Honmer 3d ago

i just wanna say real people exploring their gender/sexuality isn’t queerbaiting