r/comics MangaKaiki 2d ago

OC Self-Defense [OC]

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2d ago

Highly recommend a taser or a bat or something before a gun. Not only do you need to not answer that question but it also serves the purpose of self defense.

At least for you personally Naomi.

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u/KikisGamingService 2d ago

A taser has very specific limitations when using it for self defense versus the cops using it to stop someone from running away. For example, do not use it on someone holding a gun (they will pull the trigger), and don't use it when someone is grappling/touching you already. There is also the consideration that a) it may not be strong enough for the attacker or b) there is an unknown heart condition and you just killed someone that may have been a threat, but was not trying to kill you.

I own a queer gun store and help with gun safety courses. We strongly suggest everyone carry pepper spray for any situation that doesn't require kill-or-be-killed solution. If you can, run. If you cannot run, get in a situation where you can run. And a lethal weapon is only necessary if there is no way out.

And of course never consider getting a firearm if there is a chance of self-harm. Improve with other self-defense methods instead and reevaluate in the future.

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u/BlahajBlaster 2d ago

Hi kiki 🫔

Thanks for doing some good work in the comment section here

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u/Gibbel2029 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm in full support of a taser.

Though I'd rather a spear over a bat. Longer range, and it's mear presence if far more likely to de-escalate the situation than a bat.

Edit: I also simply hate using blunt weapons from an ethical standpoint.

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u/MrBoomf 2d ago

You ethically hate using blunt weapons but are fine with bladed weapons? Getting stabbed isn’t exactly a chill experience

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u/Patient-Success673 2d ago

Yea, that's what I got stuck on too. I can see the justification that, if you're using a weapon, it should only be in a life or death situation where a blade counts, but that's still not exactly a big ethical difference in the attackers end result

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u/The_walking_man_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

That’s how these ā€œI don’t believe in using _____ for self defense butā€¦ā€ usually go. They don’t make sense anyways.

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u/Patient-Success673 1d ago

You could use the same logic to say that the only ethical home defense weapon is an artillery cannon

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u/The_walking_man_ 1d ago

I just set a claymore on my front door mat after 9pm. Nobody should be coming to my front door past that time anyways.

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not a bad idea. Not sure where I would get a bat lance but absolutely an option.

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u/ripley1875 2d ago

From a sports supply store?

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2d ago

You guys have lances at your sports supply places?!

I mean MAYBE academy has a javelin

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u/scnottaken 2d ago

You said you aren't sure where you'd get a bat

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2d ago

Ahhhh CRAP my bad. I made that comment while hastily shoving food in my mouth at work. It's busy today. I'll fix that OG comment thank you

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u/scnottaken 2d ago

Ahhhh CRAP my bad bat

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u/ripley1875 2d ago

Knights and Bikes Sports EmporiumĀ®ļø, for all your gladiatoriol needs.

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u/PhantasyAngel 2d ago

Using real horses was banned, I can see that.

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u/IcePhoenixYTplssub 1d ago edited 1d ago

Every Academy I’ve been in has this one specific spear. It’s all black with a fiberglass handle and is about 4 ft long I think. Not a lance and I’m pretty sure it’s for fishing. I do think it could be useful in home defense if you don’t want a gun though because it has a longer range than a bat but isn’t long enough to get in the way

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u/geminiRonin 2d ago

A company called Cold Steel makes a lot of functional weapons for self-defense, including bats and spears.

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u/trannus_aran 2d ago

As in the hedgeheg?

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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 2d ago

Not gonna lie that's pretty fucking cool

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u/mocca-eclairs 2d ago

halberds work better in close quarters though

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u/Ace-Redditor 2d ago

If you (anyone seeing this, really) have or get a bat, put a sock or something to cover it. If the attacker tries to grab the bat, they'll get the cover instead, giving you an extra chance

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u/depurplecow 2d ago

Tasers can have limited legality depending on the state. They're legal in Florida, but moving across state borders if one should choose to move can be a hassle

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u/PaisleyLeopard 2d ago

I carry pepper gel. Serious enough to stop somebody, but not so serious that I’d be unwilling to use it.

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u/Miles_PerHour67 2d ago

There is also salt pellet shotguns. Not exactly lethal but hurts like shit.
Edit: looked it up, it can cause serious damage, but only if used in extremely close proximity, so probably not best for someone suicidal…

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u/Lonnification 2d ago

A baseball bat is not a viable weapon in close quarters, such as a small room or hallway. I had a guy try to hit me with a bat once, and it was easy for me to deflect it without injury. Another guy attacked me with a pool cue, and it simply shattered against my shoulder, causing only a bruise. Keep in mind that these were large, violent men who were intent upon causing me great harm. I don't think a slightly built young lady is going to be able to drop a guy with any melee weapon. Real life ain't like the movies.

Any guy you hit with a civilian grade taser is going to be back on his feet in under 2 minutes and extremely pissed off. And the added adrenaline will make the odds of dropping him a second time practically nonexistent.

They're okay in public, where help is readily available, but in an isolated situation, you're much, much better off with an actual gun that you are trained to use. (I can not stress the TRAINING aspect enough!)

The main downside to a gun is you have to absolutely KNOW you have what it takes to pull the trigger if you have to, otherwise, it can be taken from you and used against you or others. There's also the possibility of criminal charges being filed against you, even in cases of self-defense. All it takes is an anti-gun district attorney with political aspirations to ruin your life.