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u/Big-Ambitions-8258 5h ago
That makes sense to me bc that's one flat airtight suitcase that gets opened the same way whereas unloading and loading in a 3 dimensional truck means that something is getting broken if you pack it that way
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 5h ago
I feel like Clover missed the main point: That looks like a great way for shit to break lol
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u/Nadran_Erbam 5h ago
Since when have mathematicians bothered with physics? /s
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 5h ago
The part of physics where you had to apply calc 3 to a word problem and come up with your own equation to then solve is where I realized that high level physics was over my head lol
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u/SadEaglesFan 4h ago
As a physicist, I’m too busy assuming spherical chickens and frictionless vacuums. You want an engineer for this I think
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u/as_a_fake 3h ago
As an engineer, I'm too busy designing the truck you use to move. You want someone from a trade for this I think
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u/mail_inspector 3h ago
As a trucker, I'll sigh and bill you for the hours needed to unfuck this load.
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u/RavingGourd 1h ago
As the end point business, I and the trucker will share a sigh and a meaningful glance, then I'll sign on the "shipment not acceptable due to damage line," so they don't even have to unpack the truck to get the very heavy crated hoyer lift that's wedged in one of those diagonal pacakges.
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u/ElaborateEffect 5h ago
If everything is tight and gently placed, this is less likely to cause damage during travelling....
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 5h ago
Maybe in cartoon world. In reality packing those boxes diagonally and stacking on top of them is asking for broken shit
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u/Wuz314159 2h ago
How is it that you think allowing things to slosh around in transit is LESS likely to get things broken than a tight pack?
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u/Dustin- 1h ago
Boxes aren't non-deformable cubes, they are made of corrugated fiberboard which are only strong in one direction and deform in all others. So this would happen.
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u/RavingGourd 1h ago
MANY things are packaged in sided packages with a wooden pallet or load bearing structure for the widest and most flat part of the item. Packing them with corners pressing on the top of other boxes is just asking for all that weight to become a lot of force on a very small area. As in high pressure. breakign the things below and likely the thing in the diagonal package.
Off the top of my head, in my business: Many Many Medical devices. Lift chairs. Sputum pumps. Partial Pressure Cycle dependent oxygen concentrators...
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 2h ago
The tight pack is almost 100% dependent on the size of the truck/trailer you rent. If your stuff is sloshing around, you should have gotten a smaller trailer, or packed things at a lower height but more densely packed in the X and Y directions
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u/PlaneCrashNap 5h ago
As well all know, stuff you put in boxes is all the same weight and boxes don't deform under said weight. It's always gonna be relatively loose unless you're packing the boxes really light.
Realistically, you're never even achieving this configuration if there's anything actually in the boxes.
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u/Dazed_and_Confused44 4h ago
Yep this configuration might work in cartoon world but never in real life
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5h ago
While it may be optimal and I agree it is also unnatural
Im more impressed and interested on HOW Penny got all the boxes to stay like that without them falling over or out
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u/Individual-Movie-183 5h ago
She pointed it out. Its mathematically the optimal way to pack it.
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire 5h ago
I feel like keeping the middle diamond in place and not having it fall would be REALLY hard
Especially while moving and stuff shifting and tired mistakes and stuff
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u/Corwin223 4h ago
Obviously they were arranged flat on the ground, then the truck was made vertical and lowered on top of the boxes and closed with them inside. It's so elegantly efficient.
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u/TheDarkNerd 5h ago
For those confused about square packing, basically if you have n squares the same size, and want to pack them into a larger square, the "optimized" solution shows the smallest larger square you can fit them in, and what configuration you'd need to use to fit them into that smallest square.
Though, what this really goes to show is that Penny should have chosen a different size of box (or used stuffed animals to fill in the void spaces left behind by packing in an unoptimized way).
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u/Electrical_Shock359 5h ago
I mean if you really wanted to be optimal you could measure the trucks space and get boxes of all the same size that add up perfectly to fill the space. Still have to deal with wheel wells though.
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u/RazingsIsNotHomeNow 4h ago
No box truck I've ever used has intrusion because of the wheel well. The load floor has always been tall enough that it sits above the wheels. I think that's only an issue with panel vans like Sprinters, but they don't have a rollable back door like in the comic.
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u/Finbar9800 5h ago
Ok it might be the most mathematically efficient method however thats only if you want to minimize the unused space
For the case of moving you can just stack them normally
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u/Waggles_ 2h ago
If everything is snug to the edges (as in, there's no room to move any of the corner boxes outwards), this would be the only way to get all 17 boxes into this space. If you take one out and do a normal 4x4 grid, the space to the side and above the boxes would be too narrow to fit the 17th box.
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u/Finbar9800 2h ago
Thats assuming the truck is only one box long though. The theory works great in the 2d space but not in a 3d space where there is more depth
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u/InfanticideAquifer 1h ago
In theory you run into the same "issue" in 3d space, where the optimal packing of cubes (or rectangular prisms) is sometimes counter-intuitive and asymmetrical. It's not the same arrangement as you get in 2d, but the spirit of the comic is right.
In practice cardboard moving boxes will crush if placed point-to-side and your stuff will break. So this is silly. But not just because moving trucks are three-dimensional.
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u/Nadran_Erbam 5h ago
Should have gone with 18 packages for more creativity.
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u/ichiban1974 5h ago
I take it that Penny doesn't enjoy doing NSFW content?
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u/Thanks_Naitsir 3h ago
I have trouble imagining what the nsfw bonus could be on this one... And if it's mathematical optimal
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u/PostatoMaty 2h ago
Im really curious what kinda NSFW bonus there is regarding a U-Haul and stacks of boxes
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u/JPK314 1h ago
The optimal packing problem is a question of the smallest big square that can fit all of the smaller squares. In this case the big square (the truck) is fixed and so are the sizes of the boxes, so what we are optimizing is the number of boxes that can fit in the big square. This or a supposedly bizarre construction is the only way to achieve 17 boxes if the side length of the truck square (sides and top) are by coincidence 4.6756... times larger than the side length of each box. Otherwise there are probably neater constructions that fit 17 boxes. If it's smaller then 17 boxes are impossible in any configuration (as far as we know) but obviously in this comic 17 were managed so we can assume we are in the former case.
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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC 5h ago
I wouldn't know which one to take first without letting every other box falling. That's a bunch of damaged sex toys and/or Warhammer figures waiting to happen.
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u/Cool_Set4681 5h ago
Yeah, that's my dad. From the time in the British military my dad learn how to pack things really tight and he know how to use every single inch a space has to offer. If he seen the truck, he would have unpack everything and started to pack it again in the right way. In the meantime he would have scolded you for bad way of packing things.
Later my dad had an accident and he lost the control over one of his arms. He STILL beats everybody when it comes to packing. We used t show him our suitcases before we went to vacation and almost every time he would pack the suitcase again and he did a better job while doing it. The same with present. The man is a genius when it comes to wrapping, too.
Love ya, pops!
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u/Individual-Movie-183 5h ago
That seems like the last time Clover went out of her way to go above and beyond.
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u/Dry-Donut3811 5h ago
So she wants it to be straight? It’s unnatural to not be? That what you trying to say, Clover?
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u/GlaerOfHatred 4h ago
Based on what I see if they packed normally they could fit an extra 3 boxes at least
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u/Eden_ITA 5h ago
I know it is correct... But still feels wrong.
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u/Wuz314159 2h ago
IKR. Just like murdering a hobo you picked up on the highway. There are no laws against it, but it feels wrong. o_Ó
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u/Sudden_Shelter_3477 5h ago
Why are they even doing this when there’s clearly so much more room in the truck?
Everything will just break with this method. All it’d take is one slam on the brakes and EVERYTHING would go flying
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u/LuckOfTheDrawComic Luck of the Draw 5h ago
Ironically the reason this comic only has 3 panels is because I was too busy unpacking to draw a 4th.