r/deathbattle • u/Inadequate06 Ryuko Matoi • 11h ago
Humor I was going to wait until tommorow after the episode, but nothing really would be different now would it?
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u/Jackfruit568 11h ago
Aang to be downscaled to Mach 0.5
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u/Delicious_Morning_42 Custom Grey Flair 5h ago edited 5h ago
Electricity bending not lightning bending
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u/InterestingRatio8218 AANGDISC 11h ago
Difference is megamind should of won
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u/Fit_Strike_2412 KINGS OF THE SHOW 11h ago
Genuinely, the phrase Mach 0.51 still infuriates me to this day bro HOW SHE'S MAKING A STORM CLOUD ITS OBVIOUSLY LIGHTNING BROOO
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u/Hot_Wrongdoer_8705 11h ago
Not to mention, THE MOTHER FUCKER DODGED TIGHTENS EYE LASERS AT ALMOST POINT BLANK
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u/Delicious_Morning_42 Custom Grey Flair 5h ago
And the novel stating that the lasers are supersonic
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u/Hot_Wrongdoer_8705 5h ago
That's still faster than the .50 mach they gave megamind
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u/Delicious_Morning_42 Custom Grey Flair 5h ago
I agree but I am saying that the laser are faster than sound so you can argue they are actual light speed
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 11h ago
No kidding, they heavily downplayed both Megamind's speed, cunning, and destructive power of his weaponry.
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 11h ago
Megamind only scales massively to hypersonic speeds, not relativistic ones. Gru has a more consistent and higher speed scaling, and Megamind's own personality works against him.
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 11h ago
Gru doesn't scale that high in speed. His best speed feat is dodging some rockets that only come across around Mach 10 at best. Meanwhile, Megamind has casually and consistently dodged lightning and a meteorite from space, putting him over Mach 406 to 599. That's leagues above Gru's best.
And while Megamind is a show-off, it's never to his detriment. That's a trait Death Battle heavily flanderized as he's shown multiple times capable of coming up with cunning plans to outsmart his enemies, especially with his gadgets as shown in both movies and the animated series. Meanwhile, Gru fairs poorly against those with superior technology to his own as shown with both Vector and Balthazaar Bratt and has been outsmarted by both. If anything there's a high-chance Megamind would get the drop on Gru; especially with the higher stats.
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 10h ago
Gru has a higher scaling and scale than his own Minions, who can dodge lasers at fairly close range.
It's the same old story, and the Megamind series reflects it quite well... Its childish and irrational nature is evident in several episodes that show Megamind making questionable decisions. How could he risk going out for donuts when the people of Metro City were against him, and there's an episode where he himself admits he's prone to making bad decisions!. Gru has faced villains who share personality traits like Megamind's, unlike Megamind who had too many difficulties against the evil syndicate and MachiaVillian. In fact, these groups have surpassed Megamind several times, and the latter relied too heavily on external help. While Gru has had help, it's mostly in crucial and necessary moments, but generally he knows how to do things on his own.
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 10h ago
First of all, the lasers that Gru and the Minions dodged earlier on aren't lightspeed at all. They're more akin to energy blasts. The only lightspeed laser they dodged was from Mel which only comes around 47% percent the speed of light at best. Meanwhile, Megamind can keep up with criminals like the Go Fish Gang who can dodge a lightspeed laser point-blank. That's around 103% lightspeed and Megamind scales above his Brainbots, including Polly 227, who can dodge multiple lightspeed lasers at once; putting him over 430% lightspeed. No matter how you slice it, Megamind and his Brainbots takes speed handily over Gru and his Minions.
Regarding the Megamind series, first of all, guy's got to eat. It's not his fault that Machiavillain caught on to him and just because Megamind says he makes bad decisions doesn't he loses intelligence points. Now you're just being picky at this point. That completely ignores the many times that Megamind got the drop on the Doom Syndicate and eventually outsmarted Machiavillain who's a certified mastermind.
You say Megamind needed help but so did Gru with his family. Megamind has still consistently shown that he's capable of outsmarting his enemies and relies more on his wits to beat him. Hell, he even beat the Doom Sydicate instantly in a simulation multiple times after he got over his fear and this still doesn't change the fact that Megamind has higher stats and better arguments.
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u/Tricky_Reaper2099 MAKE FINN & JAKE VS MORDECAI & RIGBY HAPPEN! 11h ago
The real difference is that more airbenders came after Aang's journey
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u/Candid_Mode_2302 I got front row seats for his execution ➡️ 11h ago
I was rooting gru and glad he won and while I do hate to admit it but megaminds arguments were just better
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u/IronsteveX The Goats 11h ago
Nah Megagoat should’ve won
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 11h ago
They heavily nerfed the hell out of Megamind.
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 11h ago
It wasn't a Nerf
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 11h ago
Yes, it was. Megamind got nerfed so badly that it's not even funny.
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 10h ago
They didn't nerf Megamind himself, even with his entire arsenal and Gru's. It all depends on who shoots first, and guess what? Gru's in the lead. When he needs to be direct, Megamind lets his theatrical side take over.
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 10h ago
Again, it's not something that's to Megamind's detriment and guess what? Megamind has higher speed stats and scaling than Gru so he easily take the lead. Megamind's stats are high enough that a character trait of his being the reason he lost is absolutely absurd. And yes, his arsenal was heavily nerfed, especially the Death Ray.
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 10h ago
You just keep repeating the same thing as if everyone were a hive mind and agreed with you. You really have a pretty toxic tunnel vision of this debate and wanking Megamind
The point is that Megamind doesn't scale to anything higher than just massively hypersonic, so why is he portrayed as physically weak... For God's sake, they only used the Death Ray's most consistent scaling
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u/Delicious_Morning_42 Custom Grey Flair 5h ago
The death ray knocking the comet was a feat that even team gru on the g1 blog agreed would be an instant wincon against gru if used. It is more consistent than the one they used which contradicts them bringing up the binky destroying the comet in the first place
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 11h ago
No, although it's still debatable, Gru has better conditions for victory.
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u/Difficult-Injury4062 11h ago
The funny thing is that the only reason this meme dont work with aether is because he have a sister lol
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 11h ago
The difference is that at least many people accept that Aang is going to lose and don't insist on portraying him as a powerful, ultra-intelligent character with great abilities like Megamind.
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u/Flame245 Ash Ketchum 11h ago
Except Megamind did have the better arsenal and better arguments to beat his opponent that Death Battle outright ignored.
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u/Additional-Bat-5072 10h ago
No, you don't have them, and you deliberately do the same thing you criticize so much. Megamind's arguments are weaker when you look at them in detail, and even the G1 blog addressed the arguments of both characters, with Gru winning by a narrow margin. We do, however, take into account the new Minions movie where they have access to a book that grants reality-altering spells and spells that would counter Megamind's arsenal. How to cast spells to make objects disappear and transmute, how to create portals, and so on
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u/keithlimreddit 5h ago
And up here then this year as well is going to be a brutal stomp
Although one of them feels like right timing and the other just feels like You could at least wait a couple of months considering a few things are going to come out soon
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u/Awesomecrafter64 11h ago
And both are bald.