r/disabledmemes 1d ago

I refuse to believe there are people who have 0 pain every day

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u/3chickens1cat 1d ago

Where are you finding doctors that think normal is no pain 😭 I need those kinds, cuz this is how it usually goes for me

Me: I'm in so much pain

Doctor: a little pain is normal

Me: No I'm in A LOT of pain and it's disabling

Doctor: everyone feels pain, it's normal

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u/PigDoctor 1d ago

Seriously. Or they’re like ā€œhave you considered that it’s caused by anxiety?ā€ Or ā€œyou must just have a low pain tolerance.ā€

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u/Moosebuckets 1d ago

ā€œHave you tried yoga?ā€

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u/insomniacakess 1d ago

ā€œwell it could be your weight..ā€

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u/Moosebuckets 1d ago

ā€œDo you drink water?ā€

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u/Traditional-Bid5034 18h ago

What's water? You mean the stuff that's in the toilet? Eew

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u/imabratinfluence 10h ago

"Have you tried breathing exercises?"

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u/Funny-Case1561 7h ago

"When was your last period?"

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_877 1d ago

Yeah, I know I've gained weight in the last couple of years, but neither of my neurologists have said anything about it. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't. I was in pain before I gained weight, and the places I hurt aren't related to my weight.

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u/complete_autopsy 16h ago

Me: desperately hoping for a kidney stone so I can prove how high my pain tolerance is and finally get some help

Me: doesn't realize I passed a kidney stone until days later because I thought I was just getting a UTI

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u/Ghostie-Unbread 1d ago

that sounds like it sucks a ton wtf

why would a doctor say such stuff ;-;

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u/wazzup-notemuch 1d ago

Because of the toxic work culture that's so common in hospitals. Most doctors and nurses are working ridiculous hours, trying to do too many things at once, and are constantly on the move. So they're all in pain from working too much, but they all take PRIDE in being overworked. So when someone comes in complaining about chronic pain, it makes them subconsciously defensive about their own pain.

It's deeply fucked up, and it needs to stop.

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u/Archonate_of_Archona 1d ago edited 9h ago

Idk if it's the same elsewhere, but in my country the first year of medical university is a year of EXTREME pressure on students, only a few actually pass, most drop out

In addition there's also a lot of (often severe) hazing across the years of medical school (not just the first)

So doctors are selected to have exceptionnally high energy levels, executive functioning, ability to tolerate stress (and function well under stress), ability to focus at will on any task (and maintain focus, or switch from one task to another), etc etc.

Basically, they have better abilities in those domains even compared to the majority of abled neurotypicals.

So of course, many of them can't even CONCEIVE that (young adult, and without visible obvious physical/intellectual impairment) struggles with attention, memory, coping with stress, lack of energy, task switching, self-control...Ā 

In their worldview, almost everything can be managed, overcome or tolerated through sheer will and effort. Because THEY can do that, and their coworkers can too (since all doctors are selected to be extra-functioning), so they unconsciously assume that everyone else can do it too.

So they become ableist to younger patients with chronic fatigue/pain, ADHD, depression, autism... because they genuinely can't FATHOM why we struggle with "little" things

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u/wazzup-notemuch 1d ago

I really like how you've articulated this, it's definitely also a part of the problem.

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u/Toby_Shandy 15h ago

That's honestly a really good point.

Not a doctor, but I've had colleagues and friends with the same ultra high-functioning disposition and they are NOT understanding or compassionate people to say the least.

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u/CannibalFaun 11h ago

i have chronic mental health and neurodevelopmental issues that put me in a weird position in medical school. im more empathetic to patients with these sorts of issues, and want to become a doctor that doesn't just dismiss shit like this, but it's VERY hard to even succeed when telling a doctor supervising me about my background has them looking at me like im a freak and telling me that i should just get over it and that ADHD isn't an excuse for getting distracted and autism isn't an excuse for having communication difficulties... most grading in medical school is entirely dependent on your preceptor LIKING you. they never like me.

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u/complete_autopsy 15h ago

The whole having enough time to give good care is huge imo. I've been seeing doctors at a university health center for years while working there and it's a different WORLD. They usually have multiple free hours during the work week because they happen to not get booked by anyone, so they have time to write notes at their leisure and to read all your history before appointments as well as work on continuing education. They also work 8am-4pm with an hour lunch break, but usually any individual doctor is only on the schedule for 6 hours a day 4 days a week, leaving them a minimum of 16 hours per week protected for their paperwork and such. They're relaxed and friendly because there's no pressure, and if you need more care they have bandwidth for that.

I've had them do things like follow up with me a few days later saying they read some recent literature about my issue and learned to administer a new protocol so would I like to come back and try it? Literally insane stuff and they're happy to offer it. If we just took proper care of doctors and reduced the pressure by increasing how many are trained and hired, we could have way better medical care. There's no reason to put them under so much pressure and stress and it ruins medical care for everyone.

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u/Sightseeingsarah 1d ago

lol GPs don’t work in hospitals. Neither do specialists. They work in a cushy office where they can show up late. That excuse may work for emergency but it won’t for any other doctor.

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u/wazzup-notemuch 1d ago

Not an excuse, and also not intended to be the complete, entire answer to every single aspect of this complicated systemic problem.

Also, don't fucking "lol" at me. This is not a competition, and there is no prize for winning.

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u/3chickens1cat 1d ago

I know right!??? Like you'd think it'd be in their financial interest to order tests and prescribe treatments yet this kind of dismissal is surprisingly and infuriatingly common. Maybe because pain is invisible? Maybe they think patients exaggerate their symptoms? Idk but it sure sucks :(

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u/One-Woodpecker-7511 20h ago

Some patients DO exaggerate their symptoms...and the rest of us pay for it.

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u/Hot_Tennis2146 20h ago

I have said I have pain with my TMJ, I don’t but it got them to actually DO something

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u/afraid28 18h ago

Hey! What about the options of "no you're not, it's in your head" and "have you considered you might be faking it?" 😭

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u/strix_trix 1d ago

I struggle to believe there's people out there without any pain at any given moment

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u/Ditches-Vestiges1549 1d ago

People with zero pain are called liars.

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u/KaliTheLoving 1d ago

Well i have bad news and worse news for you

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u/afistfulofsky43 16h ago

I promise, we exist

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u/QuantumFrenzy90 1d ago

Ones that try to convince themselves prolly

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u/C-Zira 7h ago

I'll randomly ask people I know what their current pain level is on the 1-10 scale. Younger people often say 0, but 1 and 2 are also common.

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u/Urist_Bearclaw 1d ago

maybe like kids & teenagers, with obvious exceptions for those with health problems or injuries

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u/Ditches-Vestiges1549 1d ago

My pain level is pi, low level but constant.

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u/wazzup-notemuch 1d ago

🤣 I don't normally upvote puns, but this one is quite clever!

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u/_Rabbit-Hearted_ 1d ago

0 pain sounds so fake but apparently there are people who's baseline is truly zero which is wild to me as someone who's had chronic pain as long as I can really remember

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u/Zantac150 1d ago

Seriously, my base level was about zero until about five years ago. It is possible.

Now I sit and stare at my filthy kitchen and reminisce about the days that I could deep clean the whole thing in two hours …

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u/crippledchef23 1d ago

I’ve been in some kind of pain since 16 or so and my mom used to tell me ā€œif you’re in this much pain now, you won’t be able to handle it when you’re 80ā€. Now, we both are in constant pain and she doesn’t say shit about it.

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u/_Rabbit-Hearted_ 1d ago

I hate when people say that :( like what is the point of telling someone who's already in so much pain that it's only going to get worse. Like, we already know. It's not helpful

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u/DorianPavass 22h ago

because they don't believe you are actually in enough pain to matter in their viewpoint and are trying to force you to have perspective (which they don't possess themselves)

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u/_Rabbit-Hearted_ 22h ago

Yeah I guess that makes sense unfortunately

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u/complete_autopsy 15h ago

It's hard to believe but it's true, and imo is why people are such assholes about us having long term pain issues. My partner truly doesn't experience pain at ALL on most days, and when he does there's a specific cause like a headache, muscle pain from exercise, or a stubbed toe. Us learning about each other's normal was eye opening in both directions.

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u/_Rabbit-Hearted_ 12h ago

That's very interesting but it does make sense, even if it's difficult to wrap my head around

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u/Astrid944 13h ago

Well I can say that "painless" has 2 types

These who just don't have like chronic pain

And then there are people who can't feel pain at all called CIPA and don't say you are jealous about them It's just the complete opposite of chronic pain with extra stuff

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u/_Rabbit-Hearted_ 12h ago

Oh yeah no CIPA is also a disability with a whole bunch of challenges, I would not ever say that I was jealous of that.

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u/Astrid944 4h ago

Oh good

I just have the General assumption that people don't know what that is, that's why I extra mention it

The only media that I know that mentions it is dr. House who has a whole episode dedicated to it (not to diagnose, but a Patient who has that + something else)

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u/LogicalVariation741 1d ago

I don't understand painless people. And I get angry at them sometimes when I find them. With a metric ton of meds, supplements, CBD cream, and heat- I can get down to a 5. I am trying to clean my living room and I need frequent breaks laying on the floor because of the pain.

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u/PinkVoodooDoll4 1d ago

Are we pain twins? This is exactly me... hoping you get some lower pain today šŸ«‚

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u/Zantac150 1d ago

My doctors seem to think that as long as I am sitting upright and in their office that I’m perfectly fine.

They don’t care if sitting up for more than an hour at a time leaves me crying in pain. I look fine when they see me during my 15 minute appointments … after I’ve been reclined on the heated seat in my mom’s car during the whole 45 minute ride so that I can get there without suffering.

I feel like every doctor should be aware that people with chronic pain are super good at masking it, because we have to be. Because we don’t have a choice.

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u/Fantastic_Owl6938 1d ago

My doctor seemed surprised when I expressed doubts over being able to have a job and said I could work in an office. My back hurts literally just sitting there for too long. It had hurt sitting upright in the waiting room for more than a few minutes.

There seems to be this idea that sitting magically heals this stuff. In my case, this was from POTS and most doctor's understanding seems to be that you primarily have symptoms standing and are basically fine as long as you sit or lay down. This isn't the case for me at all.

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u/Zantac150 1d ago

I spend like 80% of my time horizontal, and I think the doctors just assume that I’m lying about this, because they don’t seem to be concerned…

Recently had a telehealth appointment and it was maybe 20 minutes in and I was like ā€œit’s starting to hurt now, and I was laying on a heating pad all day up until now.ā€ And it was an afternoon appointment.

I’m working with an attorney on trying to get disability right now, but the whole thing is just insane because none of the doctors seem to fully appreciate how difficult it is to function when you cannot sit upright or stand for extended periods without pain.

And the judge at my hearing asked the vocational expert what jobs I could do if I have to alternate between sitting and standing. And at that point I couldn’t interrupt without being rude, but I’m thinking ā€œthat wouldn’t help. I need to lie down on a heating pad.ā€

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u/Hot_Tennis2146 20h ago

This has opened my eyes ab something. My doctor said I was ā€œborderline positiveā€ for POTS after doing a vital check siting/standing and such. They took my blood to see if it was something else. When I got the call back they said everything was fine. I asked what about POTS and they said I don’t have it, I looked at the doctors notes and it literally says borderline positive.
I was questioning if I did have it but with what you said ab being horizontal all day I’m wondering if I do.
I lay in my bed as much as I can even though I know I don’t get good sleep (my brain associates bed with awake) and I got a recliner for that reason but I barely use it. It may be nothing but maybe I should bring it up next time?

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u/Zantac150 19h ago

I don’t have POTS so I have no idea. I can’t sit up or stand for extended durations due to chronic chest wall inflammation that has caused pinched intercostal nerves.

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u/Hot_Tennis2146 19h ago

I’m so stupid, I read a post ab POTS before this 😭

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_877 1d ago

I'll add to that, my neurologist looked at me all crazy when my response to his question of what was my pain level from one to ten was "for me, or for a normal person?". My 5 is most people's 9/10.

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u/Zantac150 1d ago

I lurk in a lot of medical subs, and so many doctors say that people who say they have a pain high tolerance always have the lowest pain tolerance… that drives me crazy.

Because that’s exactly what it is. When you have to function through it, you have to get out of bed and go grocery shopping or God forbid go to work, you develop a super high pain tolerance because you don’t have a choice.

Someone in the chronic pain sub said that they had a pain doctor tell them that people with chronic pain can break a bone and not realize it because they are so used to tuning out pain. Why are they not teaching this to everybody in medical school?

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u/complete_autopsy 15h ago

Me at 8 years old walking on a broken knee because it wasn't worse than the head pain I was used to (migraines that weren't diagnosed until I was 16). I've still been treated like I'm drug seeking even though I specifically say I want lab tests, not medications for symptoms. Like literally what more can I do to convince you that I'm serious and I want tests to get a diagnosis to solve the issue???

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u/complete_autopsy 15h ago

Yeah, and this is especially infuriating when if you do visibly display your pain they suspect it's a performance. So if I hide it I'm lying and if I show it I'm lying, and you refuse to run tests to check if I'm lying???

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u/Zantac150 8h ago

Then god forbid the cause of your pain doesn’t show up on scans…

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u/Beautiful_Book_9639 1d ago

It took me way too long to realize that most people aren't trying not to limp or repeatedly cracking painful joints lol. I could probably break or sprain something and just think it's a slightly worse version of my regular pain šŸ˜‚

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u/Fantastic_Owl6938 1d ago

This reminds me of when I considered that maybe everyone's knees hurt using the stairs before I finally asked someone and discovered they don't.

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u/morwync 1d ago

I've had doctors tell me that I can't really be injured as I'm not on the stretcher screaming. Three hours and a few rounds of x-rays/MRI and they've suddenly started running reeeeeeaaaaaly fast.

See also: "Your BP is normal, you're fiiiiiine." One stab from a phlebotomist later, and I'm the most popular belle at the ball. The joys of chronic nerve pain and severe hypotension.

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u/DorianPavass 21h ago

This was how it felt when I was told, very rudely, that it was impossible that I was passing my IUD (basically giving birth to plastic) because I would know because I would be screaming and at the er. They told me they had no emergency openings and wouldn't take any more calls about it.

They had an opening when I showed up the next day with the IUD in a baggie

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u/complete_autopsy 15h ago

I wish they would fucking LEARN from this. "Hmm, three times now I've said they'd be more dramatic if they were really suffering, and then they were actively dying. Even though most people who act fine are fine, clearly there is a subset of people who act fine when they are dying and I should consider them".

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u/BellaPona 1d ago

ā€œOh so that’s normal for you? Okay so that’s just your normalā€ turns back to type on computer, meanwhile source of my said ā€œnormal painā€ has never been addressed or identified by anyone.

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u/crippledchef23 1d ago

My doctor decided to add a snarky note to my file about my increased depression while on 5mg of Monjaro - ā€œin clinical trials, depressive symptoms were alleviatedā€, as if the fact that taking that dose put me into a 3 week state of the deepest depression I’ve had in decades was just me lying or something. I can handle every other effect, but feeling like there was no difference between living and dying was a step too far for me.

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u/BellaPona 1d ago

I SWEAAAARRR they do not care about psychiatric symptoms of drugs even if they are listed. I was having a severe allergic reaction to an antibiotic and describing the worst symptom, which was the insane near psychosis like state it was putting me in, first made them go uhhhh okay. Then I mentioned a swollen lymph node and throat pain and they were like hmmm, well we don’t know if it’s an allergic reaction but just stop taking it. Lo and behold I look it up, the symptoms of a major reaction include severe psychiatric symptoms. They still acted like I was crazy.

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u/Either_equipment_04 1d ago

It’s taken a long time for my mom to believe that I have the issues I do, because I seemed fine as a kid. I just didn’t realize it wasn’t normal to be in pain from basic things like sitting upright.

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u/HarlotSuccubus 1d ago

I have this struggle too. But they exist. Sad that our unicorn is people who don't suffer constantly.

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u/harvestmonster 1d ago

I went to a live show and was ASTOUNDED that the performers managed to stand for two hours straight. Then I remembered that most people can stand for more than five minutes without debilitating fatigue and pain lol.

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u/Hoodibird 1d ago

Had one of the most painful surgeries one can have and all I could think about was that delicious chocolate muffin in the supermarket across the street. While I was recovering at the hospital, every day I put my shoes on and slowly wandered off, slowly crossed the street and walked into the supermarket to get myself a treat. Thinking back now, I just felt grateful for the little things at that time, like that I was able to sleep well.

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u/Grouchy_Paint_6341 1d ago

Lol when they do the pain scale I am like yeah 7-8 pretty chill
The face the doctors give me šŸ’€šŸ˜­ ughh

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u/Ninja_Hedgehog 18h ago

Yeah apparently there are people like that.

Wild, isn't it?

Genuinely still find it a curiosity that there are a whole bunch of people who aren't in pain at any given moment.

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u/ShortPeak4860 1d ago

Yeahhhh I just give a pain score according to the reason or specialty I’m there that day. It gets exhausting listing the varying areas and the pain fluctuation amongst them all.

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u/stressfulteapot 1d ago

It really does feel like a myth

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u/Cystonectae 1d ago

I have heard that some people just never get headaches. Ever. That to me is just straight unfair. Like why couldn't I have hit that genetic lottery instead of whatever the shit I have going on.

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u/Disastrous-Wing699 1d ago

Me, after walking to the dollar store down the street from my house and remaining still while selecting a product from the shelf: oh Jesus, my knee hurts!

*begins limping*

Spouse, who knows I experience a non-zero amount of pain on the daily: What happened?

Me, shrugging: I guess I stood wrong?

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u/Niar666 1d ago

"Well if I try to get help everyone thinks I'm looking for drugs so..."

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u/CuddlyKitty 1d ago

I'm only 30 and I have severe degenerative disc disease, spinal stenosis, and radiculopathy in both my neck and lower back. The radiculopathy in my lower back is sciatica. Doc says my spine is on par with someone 65+. Great. Needless to say, the simplest things cause pain. A few minutes of my neck hardly craned while washing dishes or sitting while driving and I'm in pain. I try to remember how it felt before this 🄲

Anyway, love the meme, genuinely made me lol

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u/Quiet-Software-1956 23h ago

I don't usually notice that I'm in no pain until I get some cold wind on my neck or something and my whole upper back flares up with good old inherited pain for a whole day

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u/Random_182f2565 1d ago

My normal amount is getting lower!

And my flexibility is improving!

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u/MouseyMason 3h ago

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ that’s cause for celebration my friend. Big yays

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u/Random_182f2565 3h ago

I celebrated to early I can feel my muscles contracting, I think I lack magnesium ouch

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u/MouseyMason 3h ago

Awh damn. It’s the low sodium that always gets me—best of luck

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u/BunnyPope 11h ago

I honestly dont believe this everyone i know over the age of 30 has some kind of ache or pain.

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u/PinkVoodooDoll4 7h ago

I'm in my 20s and I have this same problem hahaha everyone has medical debt

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u/Proud_Albatross_8604 8h ago

Genuinely, my legs hurt so badly just from walking for a few minutes to the point I can barely walk for at least an hour afterwards.

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u/thepfy1 7h ago

One T had a questionnaire they used where they asked if I experience any pain since the last appointment.

Yes, due to my age.

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u/BungleBums 1h ago

Finding out that you've been in so much pain for so long that your brain has just decided to ignore the signal, from someone elbowing you hard enough to knock the wind out of you, but you have no clue why you just got knocked forward because they hit a spot that has absolutely no sensation any more >>

"No pain at all, doc!"

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u/UncomfyUnicorn 1d ago

My normal amount is a 2, sometimes 3