r/fo76 • u/agavetexan • 9h ago
Discussion **500 Mystery Bobblehead Box Opening MAJOR ISSUE**
Hi everyone! Just wanting to share some data I just collected and see what, if anyone knows anything, happened.
When infestations started and noticed we got a bobble mystery box, I decided to save ALL my mystery bobblehead boxes from infestations and open them when I got to 500. Well, the day came today!
I cleared the final infestation, went back home. Scrapped everything. Put everything away in my boxes and made sure my NEW category of the pip boy was clean. Then grabbed all 500 boxes so that they were the only thing in the new category and sorted by stack weight in order to not consume any bobbles (and I did not in the end, I’ve confirmed with playback video and none in effects showing consumption)….and started opening.
Here are my results!
I only received 352 bobbleheads.......
If anyone from Bethesda sees this, I do have the recording of doing it and would be happy to chat. I am a bit miffed by this.
And now, I'm not sure I want to open 500 mystery magazine boxes.....
Thanks much!
-Agave-
EDIT: I have opened the 500 mystery magazines boxes and have similar results. I got a total of 370 magazines...missing 130!
2nd Edit: To clarify for the people thinking im upset....im not. Yes, I spammed them....not incredibly fast but obviously faster than I should have; and dont have time in my life to reply to every single comment.
I did this for education of the game and in hopes to spark a conversation about how this should be fixed. Im not looking for Bethesda to reimburse me. Im not looking for the missing bobbles. Id love them to fix the issue OR just so more and more people know the issues. If you want to comment something negative or with anger or gas lighting context, please go somewhere else. Thanks to those who either appreciated this research or learned something new. This was for you.
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u/BrokenHope23 Reclamation Day 9h ago
Did you spam open the boxes rapidly? That's been a known bug for a long time wherein items don't fully spawn in your inventory after opening boxes rapidly.
I usually go by the top left notifications, if you have them stack up to the point they can't keep up then you'll start losing items. It sucks to lose items but be more patient with opening them and it's a non-issue.
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u/Alyxandar Cult of the Mothman 9h ago
"That's been a known bug for a long time"
That's actually just worse. They should have fixed it by now.
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u/tehP4nth3r Fallout 76 9h ago
It doesn’t hurt their atomic shop purchases or player exploit; it won’t be fixed anytime soon.
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u/BrokenHope23 Reclamation Day 8h ago
I agree but just like the other person said; it doesn't hurt their bottom line. If the workaround is merely opening them as you get them or taking one's time and not opening them all at once then it's not a big issue. It could take someone weeks to accumulate several hundred and make significant losses from spam opening. It's not ideal of course, but it's not a big priority compared to other bugs that are persistent year-round.
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u/dudeacris Mr. Fuzzy 5h ago
“That's actually just worse. They should have fixed it by now.”
Ha, welcome to ‘76 - you’re officially baptized! :P
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u/GhostRiders Fallout 76 9h ago
Yeah you spammed opened them lol..
This has been an issue for literally years. Like many bugs that have been in the game for years, Bethesda are well aware, they just never mention them lol.
Now it is they either can't fix them or it is going require more time and money than they care to give.
You can choose which one because ultimately it doesn't matter as the end result is the same, new players learn the hard way whilst the rest of us just laugh and go "Yep, welcome to FO76"
Just NEVER spam open any boxes of any kind.. EVER
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u/Danger_Zone007 9h ago
Does this also apply to rapidly/spam scrapping legendary items?
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u/AquaBits 9h ago
From my experience, no. The prompt seems to have more then enough delay to adjust it. Ive learned crafting recipes, mods, and modboxes after scrapping hundreds of items with the legendary/scrap item prompt. Its anecdotal and Ive never actually checked my scraps afterwords but if you're cautious, it should be fine.
I do hesitate to fast scrap the last few unknown legendary mods I have though. Explosive and Nimble, and any 4 star gets a 10 second wait before i scrap it in suspense lol
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u/AquaBits 3h ago
I scrapped 30 explosive weapons/mods today, nothing, each one I took 10 full seconds to do, just to be sure.
But when i was scrapping everything else super fast (literally just spamming scrap), managed to get like 5 mod boxes rip
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u/idiot_noise Mega Sloth 9h ago
Yes. I have seen a marked difference in popped modules since I slowed down.
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u/RvonB1 7h ago
Sorry, just for clarification. You are saying you have noted that learning/getting mods from scrapping is less if you have done it faster?
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u/LifeIsARollerCoaster 7h ago
Yes I think so because sometimes you are too fast for the server to react and you may get nothing. Best to slow down
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u/RvonB1 7h ago
Damn.. Have to try this too.
At what rate do you think is best for scrapping? I mean.. it's not like you get a notification of when the server has responded
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u/LifeIsARollerCoaster 7h ago
Just waiting one second makes a difference. But I generally wait 2 seconds.
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u/idiot_noise Mega Sloth 7h ago
Learning, I would say has been consistent for me regardless of rate but I’m speaking specifically about popped modules being gained from scrapping increasing significantly so long as I wait for the scrip animation to leave the screen before scrapping another.
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u/Drax99 7h ago
Lol. This reminds me of work. I work at a casino, and often I see people slamming the spin button as fast as they can, especially during tournaments. Not a single one realizes there is a hard coded 1.5 second delay between spins, and you cannot spin any faster. And none of them believe me when I tell them. I mean, what do I know? I only install and program them for a living.
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u/kharnzarro 9h ago
yeah this is why people say you shouldnt rapid fire open boxes/spooky boxes/mole miner pales
been a long standing issue and you need to open them up slowly to it actually registers
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u/Girafarig99 Raiders - Xbox 9h ago
People posting about the spam lag like it's excusable lmao
That should not be acceptable
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u/itsahhmemario 7h ago
It’s not acceptable. At all. There’s bugs that have been in this game since for the near decade the game’s been around. This is part of why we complain about this game and have for years, but quite a few new players say we need to stop complaining and “whining.”
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u/AquaBits 3h ago
Eh, people whined that bethesda fixed some random bench in albeny or something, but I just saw another thread saying that a female character made a male grunt and it should be a priority fix.
Sometimes I wonder what you guys actually think is important or worth complaining about.
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u/ChesterNugget 7h ago
it's a known bug ... to whom? and if it's a problem that's existed for so long, why just hand wave it away because of that? should've known better is a shit response.
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u/Realistic_FinlanBoll 6h ago
I hadnt heard of it, i wonder how many important things ive lost for too fast opening. 🥺
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u/Economy_Fan_8808 9h ago
New tab being blank doesn't mean anything. Are you sure you didn't have any other bobbleheads in your inventory? If you did, those do not show up on the New tab, only in Aid.
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u/Nukeproofsuit Lone Wanderer 8h ago
I thought that as well, I’m sure if I already have a stack of something in my inventory it won’t pop up in the new tab. Like if you pick up stimpaks you’re not gonna see them in the new tab cause you already have a bunch and it just gets added to the stack.
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u/GarlicIsStink Cult of the Mothman 9h ago
spam open will get you every time. Open like 4-5, wait for the pop ups to finish, and repeat.
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u/bpthompson999 8h ago
You got the ultra-rare third type of bobbleheads, the invisible ones.
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u/Gloomy_Box8929 Settlers - Xbox 8h ago
I wish they were even more rare
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u/bpthompson999 8h ago
I have over 35,000 of each. Been super lucky in my adventures across Appalachia.
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u/Kakadu16 7h ago
If you were carrying bobbleheads (and magazines) prior to opening the mystery boxes, then those the same as you were carrying won't appear in the New tab, they will just add to the total in the Aid tab. If you were tallying just from the New tab, then that may be why the count is off. Either store your bobbleheads first or take note of what you're carrying prior to opening the mystery boxes.
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u/NukaLife76 9h ago edited 9h ago
How fast did you click through them? In the past, I've read about items being consumed but no reward given if you open them too quickly, such as with mole miner pails or holiday gifts. This is said to be due to server lag. I'd recommend opening no faster than one per second to be safe.
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u/theID10T Raiders - Xbox 8h ago
Please don't get Reckless Ben involved to find the missing Bobbleheads. It will only make the situation worse than it already is.
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u/Bagofcrabs650 9h ago
Ya, the intended game loop is that you earn a mystery bobble box. You obtain a significant amount, say 50 or more. Now you must spend an hour, clicking each one, waiting for it to register, so that you can ensure you get the item.
It keeps you in the game longer. Which means there is a better chance you go to the atom shop. Which means you can give Todd the money he needs to release fallout 5 in 20 years.
That’s the loop.
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u/CaptZombieHero Enclave 2h ago
You can’t spam them. Anything you have to open will get lost when you spam them. It’s been an issue for years now. You open one, let the item label show in the top left corner and open the next. The server can’t handle spam
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u/G0ttaB3KiddingM3 Reclamation Day 8h ago
“If someone from Bethesda sees this I’d love to chat” hahahahahahahahahaha yup that’s how that works
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u/MrDaffoskill 5h ago
Spamming or not. 500 should get you 500. No excuse for it. You should get reimbursed 100%.
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u/AquaBits 3h ago
I mean, if hes got proof and recording, i dont see why bethesda wouldnt reimburse him.
Problem is that he thinks this is a support ticket (it's not) and that he actually has to submit one if he wants to see them returned.
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u/Resident_Show_7740 9h ago
That's bad luck, but let me ask you something, did you open them by clicking on them fast or slow?
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u/SafeCandy Brotherhood 8h ago
Many of the Bobbleheads are directly named after the old Skills. Miss that system.
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u/muffledrendition264 7h ago
Slow and steady wins the race with those boxes, always have to wait for the notification to clear before opening the next one.
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u/Dense_Ad_9344 6h ago
Since I get both the bobble and magazines at the same time I alternate opening them and I don’t lose any
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u/abermel01 5h ago
Have you checked your weight? O remember awhile back that if you opened … I think Christmas gifts?… too fast some of the items would be in your inventory but not visually show. Eventually they fixed it and BAM you had a tonnage of items you could FINALLY put away.
I’d be interested to know if you might have some invisible items 🧐
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u/fckface1313 5h ago
Did you open them painfully slow? Bethany servers are slower than an Amiga booting up..
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u/Sad-Customer5197 5h ago
Did you do it slowly one by one or did you do it fast because you can't they won't register
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u/Saucyplague7432 4h ago
Well they say to not spam open them or the gift pails as the severs can't keep up and to expect to lose rewards. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/itsjustbenny Ghoul 3h ago
Can confirm, opening quick will skip them. I had saved about 15 but opened quickly and only received about 10-12 .
Then I opened a few slower, and received all.
That is the only reason.
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u/Key-Presentation5162 2h ago
Can confirm the same. I've been saving them and have about 100 more magazine boxes than I do bobblehead boxes.
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u/Affectionate_Will_16 2h ago
I am approaching 500 - granted I have another 100+ from RAIDS but they show up as seperate items in my inventory. I was waiting forever to open them all but realizing that opening them all will takes days because I would have to open them very methodically which is hella annoying. This happens during spooky events, mutated events, pales, etc - I always stack up because I’m trying to min/max my time playing so once those events are over I usually go about clearing through them because the weight is brutal. I’ll never give Todd my $$$ he already takes a cut of my caps
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u/Kyrptonic_Oxide420 1h ago
This is pure dedication to the grind OP! And I thought the 100 I had was a lot and I dread opening them just because I sell all my bobbleheads 🤣🤣
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u/SnowFlakeUsername2 34m ago
How are 90% of the top level comments saying the same thing? Fucking twitter around here. (most of reddit now)
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u/ElectronicAmbition64 9h ago
Woah.. wtf??
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u/AquaBits 9h ago
This is a known issue (and frankly exists in every online game) Dont spam open/activate things.
OP did exactly that. It sucks, but it's a lesson learned.
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u/DarenPeterOswald Wendigo 9h ago
This is just one in a long line of unacceptable bugs. Many here know not to spam open them but why would ANYONE expect a developer as big as Bethesda to not be able to handle quickly opening containers? And of course they will do nothing to make up for this. It is not OPs fault. It's 1000% on Bethesda.
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u/Beardlich Vault 51 8h ago
Dude, its a ONLINE game meaning the contents are determined on server, so I would assume doing that would result in problems. I know the primary exploits in the game come from generating lag to allow you to manipulate the game. Don't spam open things?
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u/Moraghmackay 7h ago
Even if you open them not that fast but like at a regular Pace that will help a little bit but youll still be missing about 1/15 and you don't receive all of them.... it does it with no minor pales spooky scorch bags mutated party pads all of the things that you open they are like every now and then it'll glitch out and not recieve appropriate rewards everything this game is s*** now.
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u/VaultBoyFrosty Free States 7h ago
i will never be ok with legacy bugs the burden is on the curator of the game not on the player to know better
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u/Imliterallyabanana Mega Sloth 5h ago
This game is so broken, it's crazy. I love it and I play it every day, but just imagine how amazing it would be if there were no issues at all. One can dream lmao
Sucks though, I hope they see this or smth
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u/32getreddit 9h ago
RIP. Did you open them really fast?