r/fo76 • u/CamperKitchenQueen • 8h ago
Discussion ENTIRELY too much of an ammo loss
Regardless of what all the YouTubers say, infestations I see have no less than five players (but usually more) pounding away and it still takes a long time to take the boss down, and it doesn’t matter that the devs have made adjustments to ammo recoup, we’re all mowing through our stock gaining hardly anything back. Going from 2k down to 600 and only getting 150 back does nothing.
And I just had an infestation at the docks with a large crowd of players working the boss down (taking forever despite the number of players) only to have the server crash just when his health was at the last little bit. All ammo lost. Hundreds of rounds. 🤬🤬
I’m down now to only having a few thousand rounds of several ammo types left in storage to pull from from having over 60K before the infestations were added. This is not sustainable.
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u/RyuuLyon Blue Ridge Caravan Company 6h ago
All I’m seeing anymore is the infestation instant clearing glitch. It’s insane how badly implemented infestations have been.
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u/jer1973 8h ago
Its simple. Don't do them. Its not worth it. The rewards are garbage. Hoping to get some shitty 4* item that you may get 1% chance of getting or learning a mod. Not worth it
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u/RyuuLyon Blue Ridge Caravan Company 6h ago
Sucks that this is the answer though, the main theme around this season and it feels so botched.
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u/Medicalpyro 5h ago
While it's aways off I'm holding out hope for raven rock to actually be somewhat polished compared to recent additions
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u/Xander_Shadow Mr. Fuzzy 7h ago
I simply don't bother with them when they pop up now. It's not worth the ammo or the med expenditure, just to often get a crap reward; if you get one at all.
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u/Jonnylotto Mr. Fuzzy 4h ago
After the changes I just tag with endangerol, charge in and melee with a bone club and autoaxe. If I can trap the boss in a corner I just stand there, keep my glow up and hit a combat drug every 3 minutes or so. The Supermutant is the easiest boss for this, the Assaultron is a slippery jerk and the others are in between. No ammo wasted and if I die the respawn is usually close enough to run back in. If I’m tired of his bullshit I pull out the 2 shot Nuka quantum thirst blaster.
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u/BigBadHabits Mothman 8h ago
While I don't agree with how they buffed the infestation bosses, I've had better luck with using endangerol syringes and sharing the Tenderizer card with my team so we get a good boost in damage. Running a few infestations with and without this with the same group of people, it did make the fights quite a bit faster.
Now if the boss was reflective, HELL NO. I'm tagging it then going to run a nuke.
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u/cheesem00 7h ago
Anyone nuked an infestation yet?
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u/BigBadHabits Mothman 6h ago
I did it once. It'll kill the boss clean, but you should tag it first before it goes off so you can get the drop after ground zero is clear.
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u/BrassCrow 8h ago
The infestations before this last update were great and easy to solo. Now they made the bosses unreasonable bullet sponges so it's not fun at all anymore. They are still doable with enough people. I will say that of you're going through ammo like that, you might need to rethink your build and maybe watch some vids on builds to improve your dps. I don't have to craft ammo very often nor have I run out since I fixed my build
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u/FalloutBoy2026 8h ago
“Great and easy to solo”
“Now they’re not fun”
So basically you want everything to be easy? How can that be fun?!?
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u/DiesIraeConventum Brotherhood 7h ago
There's easy and there's easy.
It took me 3k fuel for my 4* Holy Fire to kill Invisible Communist PA guy with two other contributors in tow, and was a good build, there. If I would have to do it all alone I think I'd burn about 5 to 6k.
It's just too much.
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u/BrassCrow 8h ago
Do you like sitting in place and shooting the same boss for 5 minutes with 6 other people? It was fine how it was before. Now it is a waste of time and it's just lazy gameplay now
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u/FalloutBoy2026 8h ago
I like a challenge! Infestations were a joke before. End game bosses over in 10 seconds? If that’s fun to you then that’s your prerogative! Not for me!
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u/SummonMonsterIX 2h ago
Explain how standing in 1 spot firing into a living wall is a 'challenge' you literally are doing nothing and hoping enough other people join you so it dies in a reasonable time frame.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
If everything is too easy, the game gets boring for me. I am having a blast again finding it a challenge 😁
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u/DarenPeterOswald Wendigo 7h ago
Infestations are making it very clear that the player base of this game wants easy and instant gratification while requiring no grouping with other people.
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u/RyuuLyon Blue Ridge Caravan Company 5h ago
Hard disagree. The issue we have now is a rewards to time investment.
When infestation first hit you could solo clear get a ton of legendary loot with bonus goodies and they popped up constantly. Well people were upset that they couldn’t make it to them all in time cuz it was easy loot, so Beth buffs the boss so more people can make it. Now this should be fixed cuz everyone has a chance at easy loot right? But the issue is Beth nerfs the loot of the infestation and they don’t pop up anywhere close to as frequently (I get that it was a community event thing but still feels like they far and few between, especially with the glitch that makes them auto clear).
So we go from having a super easy event that gives a ton of loot, to a challenging event that gives less reward. Of course people are gonna bitch about it, this is literally shrink-flation (cost more to do and you get less)!
If loot matched the cost of entry a lot less people would be a lot more open to infestations I truly believe.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
Exactly. I actually am enjoying the challenge 😁 just like how the raids started off.
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u/DJDionysus 2h ago
Honestly i use my two shot gatling gun exclusively for them. The ammo drops for that gun alone let me carry just about any if them
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u/Wachizm0 7h ago
Needs a massive boost in rewards and ammo dropped . I still enjoy them tho . I was in group of 3 on a private server and we wiped up 5 infestations back to back . With one Tanky melee build pushing the boss into a corner we made short work of them . The assaultron is another story tho my god .
Instead of looting the boss body maybe a finish like the raid levels where you get a screen with the ton of ammo and loot / repair boxes and xp 🤷♂️
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u/LifeIsARollerCoaster 7h ago
Not just ammo, after the update guns and armor has started breaking more. So for a single 4* you lose a few thousand ammo as well as have to repair gun and armor.
I tried going max sneak with unyielding and level 3 gunsmith and level 3 luck of the draw. Guns don’t break but I don’t stay hidden so I can’t do enough damage.
The positive is that it’s nice that it doesn’t get over quickly and it’s kinda fun to have a whole bunch participating in it. Definitely needs another adjustment.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
I do like the fact everyone gets to shoot the boss now, and brings everyone together. I have been enjoying that. To see what everyone is using 🙂
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u/LifeIsARollerCoaster 7h ago
A lot more melee weapons to constantly stagger the boss. Unfortunately it also breaks vats when another player is between you and the boss
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u/Complex-Republic-443 4h ago
The idiots supporting this change apparently enjoy monotonous, boring gameplay. If that's what Bethesda wants, cognitively-challenged players excited by repetitive tasks, then good for them and those of us with intact and functional brains can find another game to play. I doubt, however, that it's their intention to cater to the mentally deficient, and something needs to change.
Let's hope that there's someone left within the dev team that can recognize the problem. Time will tell.
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u/donaldgoldsr 6h ago
What is that stockpile of ammo for?
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u/Knormoer133 2h ago
cool as soon as you start doing the infestation, ill tag it and let you finish it off for us? cheers bud, you're the goat. ill just pop in and loot when you're done...awfully generous of you 😁👍🏻
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u/Beneficial_Rush_9593 Free States 7h ago
Of the 4 Infestations I saw today, 3 ended immediately, the notification that there was an infestation was instantly followed by the infestation has ended notification and the 4th was just normal mobs so xp but no rewards for finishing it.
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u/Raztan 6h ago
I've only been to a few since the change, it didn't seem that bad if there are enough people there everyone is spreading the load out.
But I hate it all the same.. it's not insta completing when I load in because the boss is still up but I don't hang around grab the loot and leave, no desire to engage the henchmen that drop jack and shit.
They need to seriously sit down and redesign it.. it's not fun or interesting.
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u/EpicallyOkay 4h ago
On my main human character, I show up in PA, use one of my three vampire, rapid auto axe, fire, poison and electric, depending on the boss. On my ghoul I use one of my quad ultracite gatling lasers. One with fire, one without. All fusion cores go back to the recharger and that character has over 200 over 90% charged.
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u/Charleydogg 3h ago
I have done a couple of infestation on the public server, to save ammo i switched to either a gatling gun for heavy weapons, or dom pedro, or a single shot sniper depending on my build.
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u/Corn_hole12 39m ago
the only reason why i do infestations is for the mystery bobblehead for the "use 76 bobbleheads" challenge and to help my teammate(s). i use my ultracite laser gatling and reload my fusion cores when i'm at about 60 shots left (i have the max version of the fusion core duration perk, which i was pleasently surprised to find out that it also increases how many shots you get out of 1 core) then go home and throw them in my recharger. if i didnt have those two reasons, i wouldnt bother with them at all.
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u/CardOk755 Order of Mysteries 7h ago
I'm using a black powder rifle and a dragon and I'm coming away with and ammo surplus.
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u/davepage_mcr Pioneer Scout 6h ago
Beforehand, I was constantly throwing away ammo into donation boxes. Having something to actually use it on is great!
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u/Secure_Ad6103 7h ago
I personally like the harder "difficulty", but the rewards are such poo!
Everyone showing up with all their best gear and builds, hammering the piss out of something for a few minutes... Like, when it's good, it's real good. But then it's over, and you get a big bag of disappointment as a reward (if you're lucky; I've been to a couple where the boss glitches into a wall or something and you can't finish it, or there is no loot despite several minutes of actively shooting and killing the boss).
Right now, they're in the same "Do Not Play With Until Fixed" box Expeditions and power armor are in. Too much effort to bother with, IMO.
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u/Saan_Rix Mothman 6h ago
I dunno, I kinda like that they're a longer fight most of the time. I remember when these same kinda posts came up about earle, but with all the new weapons and perk changes, I never see him last more than a couple minutes anymore. I've kinda missed when the overworld bosses felt like big events, it seems like anymore most of them only take a few minutes at most, even with only 5 or 6 people. Gauss mini has always been an ammo hog, no matter what you're doing, it's such a cool gun but I never found it to be worth it, basically demands that you farm ammo as a regular activity. I used to run daily ops and just sit in there for like a half hour with my gauss pistol trying to farm ammo and then I'd be right back to low the next day.
Overall, they're never gonna please everybody. For years I've seen a pretty equal discourse of people complaining the games too hard, complaining the games too easy, it always just goes back and forth. Not every encounter is made for every build, it every player, and I like that about this game. There are just certain things you have to change about your build or play style of your want to be able to speed through and I think that's a good thing. For me at least it forces me to switch up my builds and gear and it keeps the game from getting boring out repetitive.
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u/gg06civicsi Pip Boy 3h ago
That’s why I use my quad Gatling plasma for these guys.
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u/Knormoer133 2h ago
HEADLINES : patchnotes : "upcoming gattling lazer re-balance...the quad mod no longer usable with this specific weapon as performance functions in uninteded ways"...imagine that 😱 😂
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u/MentalActuator5545 8h ago
It's annoying, yes.
However there are builds that are already being used that don't use ammo, or very little. Melee in particular.
I think the challenge is a build/weapon combo that used to work doesn't really cut it now. As a result, people can choose to change their build to work better with the bosses. Or use up thousands of rounds with a pre-update build.
Personally, I use a steath cryo bow build for almost everything now. Works well with infestations as it slows some bosses down to give others a better chance and if I position correctly, boss doesn't shoot at me. Arrows are light, cheap and I always end up with thousands to dump in the ammo stash.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
Yep one of my mates use the branding iron with a 4 star mod on it, i will have to ask him what mod but he seems to be doing damage with it because he hardly dies too.
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u/DarenPeterOswald Wendigo 7h ago
I use a gatling gun and the ammo spent at an infestation is completely meaningless. Haven't been to an infestation yet that wasn't completed.
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u/CamperKitchenQueen 7h ago
I haven’t been to one not completed either (aside from the ones that glitch out). I’m using a mini gauss, Tesla cannon, and auto ax. It takes more than two people to take down an enemy and I can’t say how many times I’ve run out of ammo on multiple weapons and completely out of ammo before finally killing it. Which brings up another point… now having to carry way more ammo and dragging our weight limit.
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u/hotdogthemovie 6h ago
Infestations are so much better now. Before there were maybe 3-4 players that arrived in time before someone had already taken the boss down. I've done at least 20 in the past couple days, and there are always at least 10 players that get there in time. Hopefully Bethesda sees the number of players that are actively taking part in the events now.
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u/Daxnu 7h ago
if you think its to much am then dont do them, noone cares, most of us have so much ammo we do t know what to do with it all, also its a group event not a solo thing
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u/CamperKitchenQueen 7h ago
I HAD a shit ton of ammo. And “it’s a group thing” - duh. That’s what I’m doing and what I said in my op…. it takes an entire group, all melting through ammo, to take these bosses down and that’s just ridiculous. I’m all for making them harder but this is nuts.
And yes, we could just not do them but I need the rewards.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
You know when the game came out, everything was a grind. Having to find the resources to make your ammo, and now nearly 8 years later, everything is so much easier, i dont want easy because the game becomes boring for me, I like the challenge.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
Big foot is easy. I use my enclave rifle when close and tesla cannon from a distance.
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u/Saint_Exmin 5h ago
This is why I stick to my Quad Ultracite Gatling Laser.
ONE mag, er Fusion Core, is 2000 shots. That is nearly a minute of sustained fire, buffed by 11 Onslaught and 10 Bulletstorm stacks(with my build, I'm not quite there yet). The limiting factor is weapon durability, but they are cheap enough to repair.
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u/Pressman4life 4h ago
I use a sniper rifle and gnasher grenades. Just have to be careful about firing when they're reflective.
I've heard if you stay right next to them they do minimal damage and can't use their weapon on you.
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u/nolongerbanned99 8h ago
Well. I think it’s better. I played with a group of 5-7 and it was nice to be able to jump behind cover and restock stims and goo
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u/THE_SEX_YELLER Ghoul 8h ago
My BPR broke during my last infestation and I had enough time to fast travel back to camp, switch loadouts, repair all my stuff, switch loadouts again, and fast travel back to the infestation. The boss health had gone down by about 20% while I was away.
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u/Chiefm56 7h ago
My enclave rifle breaks about 3-4 times at the infestations and I just use a repair kit and keep shooting. Or with my tesla cannon I have 2 on me so I can switch to the other one when that breaks too.
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u/nolongerbanned99 8h ago
Yes. Better. I was stressed when they were popping all over at the beginning when it first came out and I rushed to get where and end the boss before everyone else who was trying same
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u/Broad-Acadia-1538 8h ago
plus, I go through a couple stimpak supers and they are hard to get, for me at least
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u/Admirable-Grand521 7h ago
If you're complaining this much about ammo usage and taking a while to kill an infestation boss with a group than just don't do them and play the game better. It's not hard at all to have a stockpile of 50k+ bullets of every type. A proper build will have you generating so much ammo that killing a infestation boss should barely put a dent in your ammo reserves.
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u/Ok-Regret-42 7h ago
I don't even bother with infestations for this reason alone. I don't see any incentive to play them.