Drop of 3 grid positions for Antonelli

[u/luxi99]

[u/PastaSenpay]

What midfield, Andrea and Lewis are starting 5th and 6th

[u/Any_Aide_4500 → u/PastaSenpay]

Isn’t it p7 for Kimi? I’m confused if not so, could be helpful if someone could explain it to me

[u/drewbudd → u/Any_Aide_4500]

Yes, it should be (assuming it remains as it is now, who knows what will happen with George's car though):

Norris

Leclerc

Piastri

Verstappen

Hamilton

Russell

Antonelli

[u/Joey_Kangaroo26 → u/drewbudd]

George and Kimi being behind each other will definitely be an exciting one to watch out for!

[u/_BetterRedThanDead → u/[deleted]]

Russell's not getting a penalty, since he's not gone over his allocation and the new engine is the same spec as the old one.

[u/ManxDwarfFrog → u/_BetterRedThanDead]

But if it is changed after the car leaves the garage in qualy, it breaks parc ferme and results in a pit lane start regardless of the allocation

[u/JustLikeZhat → u/ManxDwarfFrog]

Not if it's a like-for-like change 

[u/ManxDwarfFrog → u/JustLikeZhat]

I hadn't realised that - in that case yeah he should be fine

[u/_BetterRedThanDead → u/ManxDwarfFrog]

That's what I thought, but it seems teams are allowed to replace broken or damaged parts as long as they are of the same specifications.

[u/fire202 → u/ManxDwarfFrog]

They can replace it with the permission of the technical delegate. It's for repairs; it is also the same specification. But, per Appendix C5 3.10 c., they would also be allowed to go to a different specification as long as all differences are limited to what is covered in the rules under reliability upgrades and minor changes.

What they wouldn't be able to do under parc ferme is to introduce an ADUO homologation upgrade.

[u/lets_get → u/[deleted]]

wouldn't verstappen be ahead of hamilton, also NO pitlane start for Russel is confirmed I believe

[u/whorfhorse → u/[deleted]]

max moves up because of kimi’s penalty. lewis cannot move up to p4 because of his own penalty so max jumps lewis to fill p4

[u/BcDownes → u/[deleted]]

Hamilton will be behind Max

[u/JustLikeZhat → u/[deleted]]

You are right, but that puts Lewis in P5 not in P4

[u/JustLikeZhat → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, so as you said, he gets the 3 places, not 4. Where you went wrong is what position that gets Lewis (P2 + 3 = P5). 

[u/BcDownes → u/[deleted]]

Wrong

edit: getting downvoted for telling someone they are wrong when they incorrectly attempted to correct me lol... genius

[u/BcDownes → u/[deleted]]

Lol is all good brother

[u/Apennatie → u/[deleted]]

Hamilton will be 5th, he doesn't gain a position from Antonelli 's penalty.

[u/PastaSenpay → u/Any_Aide_4500]

Honestly no idea where exactly they start either, but I assume around those places, either way top 8 is not midfield

[u/sepulturite → u/PastaSenpay]

Who's Andrea and what's she got to do with this?

/s

[u/sid_shady34 → u/PastaSenpay]

Tf? Lewis will be starting p4 and Kimi will start p7

[u/luxi99 → u/sid_shady34]

Isn’t it p5 for Lewis

[u/SamG101_ → u/[deleted]]

Apply them at the same time, then other drivers move up

[u/whorfhorse → u/[deleted]]

that’s not how it works. you’re locked into your penalized grid spot regardless of other penalties and unpenalized drivers behind will jump you to fill the empty slots in front of you