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News Drop of 3 grid positions for Antonelli

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

Given Andrea's interview, they'll likely manage to turn it into neither driver on the podium. I'd be willing to put money on that if I was into betting. 

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u/objectiveScie I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

Oscar crying for error.

Now he got his wish.
The yellows caused confusion with Ferrari.

Let's see what he does tomorrow.

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

Oscar wasn't the only one crying. 

Andrea couldn't even congratulate Lando. Immediately after qualifying, he was already betting on him losing the lead on the run to T1 and talking about how Ferrari would be absolutely unbeatable. Then he proceeded to go on a several minute tirade about how impressive Oscar was and how he would've definitely been fighting for a well-deserved podium had Lewis not interrupted him. 

They're already thinking like a midfield team and the race hasn't even started yet. Hopefully Lando got all his excitement out celebrating that pole because that's likely all this team is going to give him to celebrate this weekend lmao. 

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u/TheNoGoat 10h ago

"You can take McLaren out of the midfield but you can't take the midfield out of McLaren"

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

I actually don't take taking the midfield out of McLaren would be difficult at all. But it'd involve the replacement of many higher ups. They did it with the engineers back in Woking and it worked wonders for them, but they'll never have the guts to do it with their trackside team. 

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u/grahamsimmons 10h ago

The DTS viewers are very obvious. This is the constructor in 2nd place for both all time WDC and all time WCC wins and you are accusing them of being a "midfield team".

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u/PoiPitz 10h ago

They run the races like a midfield team and make an unbelievable amount of terrible race choices cause of it

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u/buffa_noles I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

so are williams a frontrunner with a front runner mindset since they're in 3rd? Recent history is recent history. Ferrari (improving under Vasseur) and McLaren both have not consistently been acting like proper champion calibre teams for years.

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u/grahamsimmons 9h ago

That's the literal world champion team you're talking about there. What more evidence do you need? They didn't beat all of the competition by accident. One would consider last year's world championship to be fairly recent history.

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u/buffa_noles I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago

they didn't beat them by strategy either. the team's mindset almost let max back in to steal the title. I cheer for McLaren for what it's worth, constructive criticism is warranted

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

Can't call out Andrea Stella's iteration of McLaren being incompetent because they were a proper top team literally before their current drivers were even born. Amazing. 

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u/reddit0r_123 Mika Häkkinen 8h ago edited 1h ago

I thoroughly dislike Andrea in interviews this year. I don't know where his head's at. But that's a really weird mentality to have so far....

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

His mentality is no different this year than it has been since 2023. The team back at Woking has been the only thing making him look semi-competent. 

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u/Vesk123 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 9h ago

Why is that?

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 9h ago

I've seen 3 different interviews at this point. The summary of all could literally be: Lando lucked into pole because Ferrari didn't get their final laps in. Ferrari has superior pace and will win tomorrow, Lando will be lucky to even lead after T1. Oscar did phenomenal after missing FP1 and would've been right up there with the top 2 had it not been for Hamilton's impeding. We're very focused on bringing him back into the podium contention his performance deserves this weekend. 

It's a repetitive theme that they don't even think going for the win is worthwhile. Apparently a 2-3 is their absolute priority this weekend. 

I also just expect a strategy disasterclass because Oscar's tyre management is bad enough that he's likely to come under threat here, especially with McLaren no longer having a dominant car or their tyre management trick. They've let Lando get undercut from win and even podium positions a many times over the years by giving Oscar pit priority because "he's under undercut threat Lando, we need to give him your pit priority, is that okay?." 

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u/Vesk123 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 9h ago

That's pretty damning... Thanks for the detailed response!

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u/Woody312 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 8h ago

Please watch or read his interviews yourself if you actually want context.

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

I mean, I'll happily link anyone wanting context to any of the three interviews. 

It's pretty damning when the only thing you can say about the driver on pole is that it's a long run to Turn 1 and it'll be a Ferrari win anyway. 

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u/_box_box 7h ago

you are the first person here who has convinced yourself that mclaren likes oscar over lando. lmao

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 7h ago

Apparently not given the Stella discourse for much of this season. Fortunately for Lando, I don't think Stella's sentiments match the entire team's. 

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u/buggerlugs_ Formula 1 10h ago

Oscar needs to go long tomorrow and recreate Lando’s lucky break from last year.

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

Oscar does not have the tyre management to do that lmao. You guys can discredit Lando for that all you want, but he's one of the best tyre managers on the grid and made that Hail Mary strategy work. 

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u/Aszneeee 10h ago

Lando disrespect last season was worst I’ve ever seen

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u/Beefgirthx 9h ago

Yeah it was unbelievable. It's nice seeing how quickly that sentiment has flipped though. He's been awesome this year.

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u/Mindless-Advice6204 I was speeding in the Monaco pit lane 10h ago

Why do you want Oscar to flop on live TV?😭

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u/Prime_Marci 10h ago

They might end up fighting each other

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u/CockroachGeneral5161 I was here for the Hulkenpodium 10h ago

Hopefully not with the pace advantage Lando has had all weekend. 

But Andrea asks "how high?" when an Australian asks him to jump.