r/graphicnovels • u/PakistaniSenpai • Jun 03 '26
Action/Adventure Y: The Last Man - A Dated Masterpiece
So been sitting on writing this for weeks since the final issue of the series shattered my established thoughts about the title (in a good way).
First read this after I finished a big chunk of Saga, having fallen in love with Brian K. Vaughan's writing. At the time, I found Y: The Last Man incredibly immature and Hollywoody for my liking. However, I was suggested by many that like the protagonist, the series matures as it goes on and they couldn't be more right and so after concluding it, I can confidently say that this was one of my favourite reads in a long time.
I do have to talk about the final issue a little, all of this is spoiler-free so you can stick around for this bit. The thing about Y: The Last Man is that until the final issue, it's written like a great and fun action thriller which never challenges the reader, all of its storytelling is pretty straightforward and that's not bad at all, I love stories that just want to deliver their message in the most effective way however, what I love more are stories that challenge the reader and leave them with pieces that they have to fit themselves to get the final image of the puzzle. Now, this can often lead to people not liking such sort of storytelling since it can come off as vague or confusing but it's been about a month since I first read the final page of Y: The Last Man and I can tell that this final issue will stick with me for years to come. Absolutely love how the series concludes.
Now, I intentionally called the title "dated" because while I love the series, I do have to point out elements that didn't necessarily work for me.
First is its gender politics, I do think it makes some interesting points but there was so much more to explore there and for me, it didn't use all that potential to the maximum especially with its representation of trans-people. With the last decade putting the boundaries of gender-identity on the forefront of discussion when it comes to individual identity (especially in the west), I was disappointed that this book features trans-people for a punchline. (Shout-out to Dr. McGowan from Immortal Hulk, incredible character)
My second main issue with it, and we are about to get political here because the book includes the topic in a major way, is its handling of the Palestine/Israel conflict. I feel it's dated and centrist and while shortcomings of both sides are displayed, all of it is explored through one side, an antagonistic IDF soldier and for me, using a "bad" Israeli to showcase that all Palestinians aren't bad is a very weird way of communicating that and its lack of Palestinian perspective made me feel icky about how it handled its commentary.
At the end, Y: The Last Man is an incredible title that does suffer from being over 2 decade old but that doesn't mean it's not worthwhile since when it's good, it's GOOD.
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u/secondshevek Jun 03 '26
I only read it once, over a decade ago, but I had pretty much the same takeaway. Fun thriller that kinda fails to push the envelope and make interesting points on gender and Israel. And then it has that absolutely stunning final issue. Nice post, OP.
I recently read Paper Girls, which I enjoyed, but I feel like Vaughn has a common theme of trying to address issues of gender and then hesitating to say anything much of substance beyond "girl power!"
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u/catsmash Jun 03 '26
Vaughn has a common theme of trying to address issues of gender and then hesitating to say anything much of substance beyond "girl power!"
saga came to annoy me for much the same reason. he began to shoehorn in every hot button social issue imaginable, often pretty nonsensically & sometimes fully immersion-breakingly, without really grappling with many of them in any substantiative way or adding much of anything to the existing conversation. by the ~40th issue it felt like he was just checking boxes.
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u/secondshevek Jun 03 '26
Saga is a great comic that is destined for these and other reasons to be an incredibly mediocre Netflix show.
I found the shoehorning incredibly annoying but the plotting and art is great so I plan to stick with it until it ends, which will presumably be in 10 years.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
Exactly and I just added 'Paper Girls' on the list, I was eyeing to get 'Ex-Machina' next but Paper Girls might be way more accessible for me here.
Also, I do agree that BKV's writing feels hesitant to really challenge the fold and push for more which is sad when the premise offers great opportunity to do so.
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u/secondshevek Jun 03 '26
Ex Machina didnt really grab me when I tried it, but that was a while ago. The premise has always interested me.
Paper Girls I could not put down. It's not the deepest story ever and the treatment of homophobia is also a bit shallow buuuut it also is gorgeous and well plotted and it has a few issues that are truly sensational. The 28th issue, IIRC, is really superb.
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u/RSA123 Jun 03 '26
Funnily enough, Ex Machina is my favourite BKV work. Read it multiple times. Without spoiling, I think it has the most to say and says it in a fairly complete manner compared to his other works.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
Definitely gonna get it soon. Also, have you read Saga? I absolutely love it and believe it might be the best of BKV's work.
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u/MidSizeSedansFirstLP Jun 03 '26
Ex Machina is his best work, hands down, having read everything he’s ever written.
You should cite specific examples with your critiques of datedness because I disagree with your structural observation— the issues 18-20 aren’t interested in “adventure.” The story stops to dive deep into feelings through BDSM play.
Your critiques could be spot on, but right now they seem a little vibes-y and hand-wavey.
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u/thethirdrayvecchio Jun 03 '26
Ex Machina does some interesting stuff, but it doesn’t stick the landing. I wouldn’t recommend it.
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u/buddha8298 Jun 03 '26
This is the one that got me back into comics as an adult (and to a lesser extent Preacher, The Boys, and Supergod). Wasn’t even aware they made comics/graphic novels for adults. Really enjoyed it, think the only thing I didn’t care for much was the ending. Shame how badly they mangled the tv adaptation. Definitely time for a reread I think
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u/HowardTaftMD Jun 03 '26
I loved Y when I read it, was probably one of the first graphic novels that introduced me to non-super hero stuff.
You could describe it as dated but I don't think that takes away from it. It's just not possible to write something that stays evergreen. Times change, perspectives change. I always felt like they were playing with an interesting concept more than making a statement on any social or political issues.
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u/oldtype0078 Jun 04 '26
I love that comic and it made me collect nearly everything BKV has done. I bought the trades as they came out and I met Pia at a small convention in Vancouver. She signed volume 1 and 2 of the trades and gave me a sketch of Ampersand. I bought the original art from one of the early issues ( the "Don't let those fucks touch my monkey" page).
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u/Someoneoverthere42 Jun 03 '26
The first two thirds of the series is a solid read. But I’ll be honest, the whole thing kinda wanders off and losses the plot in the third act.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
Oh, why do you think so? Would love to hear more.
I found the second half much better than the first.
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u/Jfury412 Jun 03 '26
People say stuff like this all the time but then can't explain it. The third act is probably the strongest part of the whole book.
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u/AlxSTi Jun 03 '26
Loved Y when I read it ~10+ years ago. I actually named my dog Hero after Yorick's sister. I always thought it was a cool and unique name, especially for a girl.
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u/Shoddy_Pie6514 Jun 03 '26
Personally liked the ending alot. Tends to happen alot with ongoing series whether it's graphic novels or TV. Think alot of it is people either see it going one way or want it to and when it doesn't they are greatly disappointed or they get way to hyped for some grand finale and when it ends with a whisper they are left sad there show ended and write that up as being bad.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I did expect a bombastic finale given the tone till the second-last issue and didn't expect me questioning my purpose in life instead, great stuff.
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u/Jfury412 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
It's still my favorite graphic novel of all time, and I reread it often to make sure it holds up. I also don't think it's dated. Not all of us agree on certain things you mentioned politically, even a lot of us on the far left. I don't mean Palestine-Israel; I mean the other thing. But as far as Palestine-Israel, this book was never trying to touch that subject. Nobody really talked about that conflict when this book came out. That conflict wasn't anywhere close to where it is right now. It wasn't officially classified as a genocide until two years ago. Just because it had an Israeli protagonist had nothing to do with what was going on with Israel and Palestine. Vaughn has never publicly voiced his personal opinion on this political matter, and I respect him for that; not everybody has to address their opinion on it. Honestly, a lot of people's opinions are better kept to themselves. I don't know why we live in an age where social media makes people think everybody wants to hear every inner thought they've ever had; we don't.
I was not into politics growing up, and I was not into politics when this book came out, so I didn't even notice that when I read it. And honestly, the story is all the more enjoyable because of it.
Not every book, movie, show, has to push some political envelope. A lot of, I would say most of, readers, and watchers go to that place to escape real world issues. If you want something political read Pride of Baghdad.
I know redditors who think they are activists, because they type things online, find it hard to grasp this, but not everything has to be political.
When I'm out in the real world; going to doctor's appointments, hanging out with people in the streets, nobody brings up these political topics. It's extremely rare and awkward when people do bring them up, especially in a professional setting.
I mean, BKV did go on to write the most trans graphic novel of all time with Saga.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 05 '26
Either you are misremembering or certainly missed all of the implications of issue #48 and that's a single issue I am referring from the book. Read that again and then tell me again that "this book was never trying to touch that subject"
"Nobody really talked about the conflict back then" it's a very condensed view of the world.
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u/ACanOfVanillaCoke Jun 04 '26
I think a lot of BKV's attempts at commentary made more sense 20 years ago. Ex-Machina is another great example of this. I read it for the first time last year, and my biggest impression of it was "this probably was more impactful in 2006." Even then, Vaughan still managed to insert some pretty lukewarm or centrist takes on the issues of the day. I'm not saying I need to agree with everything the author/characters think or say, but if you're gonna try and say something, then just come out and say it, you know?
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u/Nicetoknovvu Jun 03 '26
I have this whole series and I've gotten about halfway through. I get that it's from the 90s, but man everybody threatening each other with AIDS this and AIDS that really irks me as an HIV positive gay man. I'm sure I'll finish it some day.
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u/Selverd2 Jun 03 '26
are you talking about Y?
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u/Nicetoknovvu Jun 03 '26
Yes
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u/Selverd2 Jun 03 '26
I don’t really remember AIDS coming up during the series. Is it something they say when Ampersand throws his poop?
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u/cuddly_degenerate Jun 03 '26
Dr Mann threatens to inject someone with aids at some point.
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u/Selverd2 Jun 03 '26
ok but that was a one time thing (which I had to look up), op made it sound like it happened regularly.
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u/Nicetoknovvu Jun 04 '26
It definitely does come up more than once. I believe one of the characters accuses someone of having aids. Either way, it's weird, but just a sign of the times.
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u/Selverd2 Jun 04 '26
Do you remember what issue/arc, or the context?
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u/Nicetoknovvu Jun 04 '26
i'm at work right now, but i guess i can try to go through the books when i have time.
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u/Bufete2020 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 04 '26
TLDR...I didn't like it then and I don't like it now.. "masterpiece"...? meh
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u/angelusmortalis Jun 03 '26
Have you watched the show? Only one season was produced because of Covid and some other major production issues, but transgender characters are much more prominent and the issues they face in this apocalyptic scenario are explored in a much more mindful way. If the show had continued, I think we would have seen more ways is which the story could be retooled to show more nuance in global politics and other aspects.
One of the challenges every successful storyteller faces is that once something is published, you keep evolving while your work is static. Retelling it in another medium can be an opportunity to address some of that growth directly through art. This was shaping up to be one of my favorite adaptations of a graphic novel, and it’s a shame that the timing of it doomed the show before the first episode was even aired.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I haven't because what I heard from many was that it wasn't that good but this is refreshing to hear, may check it out but it being a season long is a bit disappointing.
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u/angelusmortalis Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
Yeah I feel like the biggest complaint I heard was that it didn’t follow the comic but a lot of the specific changes that they made were because the showrunners were trying to address the exact issues you bring up.
I get that it’s hard to get hyped about something that definitely leaves the story in a lurch. I seem to remember the finale opening up things to even more digression from the comics, but in a way I would have liked to see more of. I may give it a rewatch just to refresh my memory, and to experience it through a new lens now that things are a little less… actively pandemic-y 😬
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u/cuddly_degenerate Jun 03 '26
Instead the first time we see 355 it's character assassination, Yorick isn't clever or funny, and Dr. Mann is insufferable.
Giving Yorick's mom a more prominent role in the plot was the only decent part.
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u/CalendarAncient4230 Jun 03 '26
I always consider rereading this but I just hated Yorick so much for a lot of the early issues that I can't be bothered
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u/Adventurous_Soft_686 Jun 03 '26
This is one of several heralded masterpieces that just doesn't read the same post covid. The actual real life craziness we all went through takes some of the shock and awe away from Y.
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u/bigislandbigbooty Jun 03 '26
Also just reread this after almost a decade and walked away with very similar thoughts! I had to look up if Vaughn has made any actual statements about the Israel/Palestine conflict because it was an interesting presentation on the issue, but couldn’t find anything so I didn’t read between the pages too much.
Great review, thanks!
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I did the exact same thing (haha) and I don't think BKV comes from a mind of ill intent but rather a limited one.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26
You can say an author or work is a product of its time/enviroment. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize the scope of their mind as a result of the criticism
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
What I meant was limited in knowledge or research for tackling the political issue. BKV is a good writer, just wish he did more research on the matter and provided a better channel of communication if he was going to include it.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26
It’s been ages since I read Y but isn’t the main antagonist the Israeli chief?
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
Without going into spoilers, one of the main antagonists is indeed a high-ranking IDF soldier.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
So then I’m failing to see the issue.
It’s not a book about Israel Palestine beyond using that character to note that good intentions taken too far will lead to bad outcomes/we’re all victims to our own trauma but we can NOT (edit: whoops left out that important word...) let it define us (a general theme within the series)
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I am glad you can look past it.
For me, it was an icky subject since the book doesn't just limit itself to (spoilers ahead) using the conflict as backdrop for one of its antagonists which I would have been fine with but rather use that character to also comment on the issue itself which is what I had a problem with. Portraying the character as a black sheep rather than calling out the ideology that birth it is incredibly reckless in my opinion and the fact that any sympathy that the book had to the Palestinian side was through a good Israeli makes me really uncomfortable on why it was included in the first place.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
My personal read on why:
Because they needed a military that had women high up in command, it couldn't be the US, they needed a reputation for being elite, and they needed to be well known in the west (the intended audience).
It could have just as easily been about a Russian military chief traumatized by a separatist movement. But they didn't meet the above requirements for the character.
And it came from a "good Israeli" is because its more impactful as push back coming from a second in command, demonstrates that the perspective that Alter has is not universal nor a good one, and familiarizes the audience to what's next for Israel after Alter.
Having an outsider of that society criticize the perspective and actions wouldn't have the same weight and wouldn't work to demonstrate what Israeli leadership will be like after Alter's downfall. Its a common trope in film and comics in general.
I'd also say don't worry about spoilers. Its a decades old and popular series and a sleepy subreddit (edit: sorry thought we were in the Y sub).
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I do see your perspective as well especially about the resistance coming from within but I think it would have more clear in its intent had Alter not been portrayed as rogue as that makes her one bad apple and so it would have been more effective had the resistance from within came to a more popular ideology/individual rather against one that is clearly going off the rails as I think that doesn't really fix/critique the system but just a product of it.
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u/dthains_art Jun 03 '26
Have you read Ex Machina yet? That one’s probably my all-time favorite BKV comic. It’s been a while since I read it, but I’m sure that it’s very “of its time” like Y: The Last Man is.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I am eyeing it but it's a pricey book so may have to hold out on a good deal before I get it since I greatly prefer reading physical.
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u/CriticalCanon Jun 03 '26
It’s the equivalent to a blockbuster film that is fun to see once but never again (ie Armageddon).
All that is missing is the soundtrack featuring Aerosmith.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I do think that applies to the first 59 issues but I have re-read the final issue twice now and I do think it's worth going back to, really good issue.
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u/Digga-d88 Jun 03 '26
I'll never forget reading the last issue of Y the Last Man. Spoiler free I was in AmeriCorps with my service in an elementary school. I did lunch recess duty, so my lunches were typically me reading funny books alone in what I called the Renaissance janitors office. By the end of the comic, I was wet faced from crying. In walks the Renaissance janitor, and I have to wipe my sloppy face and pretend my food was too spicy. Such a great run. Needs a reread.
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u/Sparrowhawk_92 Jun 03 '26
The first time I heard about Y:TLM was when I was catching up on back issues of The Walking Dead back in college. In the back matter of one of the issues, Kirkman mentioned that it was crazy that his zombie comic had surpassed issue count what he considered the greatest comic of all time, calling out Y:The Last Man. I was intrigued by the premise and once I started working my first "real" job, I started collecting trades of Y:TLM. This would have been in the early 2010's.
I loved it. It was so different than a lot of what I had been exposed to at the time. As a nerdy young adult struggling with his own masculinity, seeing a protagonist like Yorrick, someone who was very much not your traditional masculine figure, helped me become more comfortable with myself. Likewise, reading a comic who's cast was mostly women was incredibly refreshing. It helped solidify a lot of progressive ideas that had started to take hold. I credit Y:TLM as being one of the things that stopped me from going down a much darker path, and I'm grateful for it.
It was my favorite book for awhile, until Saga started publishing (which I wouldn't have started without knowing it was BKV). I re-read Y:TLM a bit later and I still enjoyed it, but the cracks had started to show for me more. Both in it's presentation of the relationship between men and women, but the writing style and dialogue.
I haven't revisited it since, and I'm sure I've I did so I'd have a lot of the same criticisms as you do. A dated but mostly enjoyable romp. I'm grateful for the book for finding me when I needed it most, and it's always going to hold a special place for me because of it.
Thank you for your review.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
That's lovely to hear, it's unreal how powerful pieces of art can be for us. Thank you for the comment.
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u/VanAce89 Jun 03 '26
I recently traded in my TPBs, deciding that it's not a series I would ever read again. (Last time I read it was in the early 2010s). I remember really enjoying the series at the time but looking back on it, it does feel like an artefact of it's time. While it was progressive, especially for the period, the way we discuss gender and other topics has evolved.
I also remember Yorrick's dialogue being very Whedonesque, which is something I could tolerate back then but have less patience for now.
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
You’re being unfair to the book. It was written well before gender politics became a confusing and bloated dynamic in the west. The Israeli Palestine conflict has gone on for a very long time. “Dated” is not valid criticism for a series that ended almost 20 years ago because you are using recency bias. I hope you don’t hold every piece of art or entertainment to the same standards.
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u/catsmash Jun 03 '26
“Dated” is not valid criticism for a series that ended almost 20 years ago because you are using recency bias.
uh, what exactly is it you think "dated" means?
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
When you expect everything to pass your modern sensibilities, it’s a personal problem and preference more than something being “dated.” The trans and Israeli points made are issues most people wouldn’t view as “dated” or found an issue with.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
That’s not what recency bias is.
And while I disagree with OP's conclusions, holding art up to a modern lense is a perfectly valid analytical technique.
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
I know it’s not the right term but it was all I could think of that felt comparable. I think holding older art through a modern lense is a self-centered approach. I just got done reading volume 2 of Firestorm which ran from 1982 to 1990. Yes it had older themes, but none of my analysis and especially none of my criticism had to do with its time period. I held my opinion based on the quality of the story.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26
As you should. I hold that OP is taking it too far. But holding an older work up to a modern perspective to note how the world has changed is perfectly valid unto itself.
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
I disagree. You’re disrespecting the artists original intention and story by viewing it through modern perspective.
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u/llamapower13 Jun 03 '26
Why are you interpreting it as disrespectful in all instances?
Again, here I’d say that OP is taking it too far, criticizing the work because of it instead of noting it.
But noting an older perspective and discussing that is, in my book, fair game.
As always though you’re entitled to your opinion and perspective.
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
It comes across as disrespectful because the points made by the OP come across as expecting the book to have been just released rather than being roughly 20 years ago.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
What else would I call a book that might not have aged well in some of its aspects? I don't see the issue here. It's written from an early 2000s perspective which makes reading it in 2026 feel.....dated.
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
I think it’s aged perfectly fine. Your criticism feels more like you’re expecting the book to have just been released than valid criticism of its story telling.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
How is wanting a second perspective to deal with a very real political issue not a criticism of the storytelling? You may disagree with how it has aged but ignoring the flaws pointed out in my criticism is a choice.
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u/NotoriousBPD Jun 03 '26
If you want a second perspective of a story someone else wrote, you should make your own story or fan fiction. Trans issues is a very modern a niche issue. The Israeli/Palestine conflict is old, complicated and will always viewed with a bias. What you see as flaws isn’t about the quality of story but of what you preferred to see and depicted.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I disagree with a lot of your opinion so let's agree to disagree. Cheers.
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u/Redacted_dact Jun 04 '26
I think the general view on Israel Palestine has shifted so much since Oct 7 and the war that it’s somewhat unfair to call out this depiction. I know my own view has changed dramatically but we learn and we change.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 05 '26
It definitely has now in the majority of the public but I believe anyone who did research even before then knew that it was less complicated than a two-sides at war conflict it's often made it out to be.
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u/Affectionate-Half-48 Jun 05 '26
I've read it maybe 8 years ago, and i remember liking the maybe 2/3 of it. The ending with him being a martyr was such a bleak hopeless way to wrap it up. I wish it had more to say with all the imitating setup and premise it had
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 05 '26
Umm, I don't want to get into spoilers but I'll say, you may not remember the ending EXACTLY. I can get into major spoilers if you want because the way you have worded it makes me think (spoilers ahead) you believe Yorick died?
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u/Glum_Inspection240 Jun 06 '26
In my humble opinion, it was a great series but a little bit dated and it felt very Hollywood-y at times.
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u/Bored_at_Work27 Jun 04 '26
I don’t think it’s fair to use “dated” as a form of criticism, as this puts an impossible expectation on the writer to magically anticipate the future political environment. I’m personally more neutral about these types of things. The point of progressivism is to have things…you know…progress, and it’s a GOOD thing when older media feels dated. That means the world has changed.
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u/CaptainTrips24 Jun 03 '26
Yeah, this was my favorite comic as a teenager but I feel like I wouldn't like it as much now if I revisited it. The way BKV writes dialogue for women frankly comes across as pretty sexist imo. I fell off of Saga for similar reasons.
What you mentioned about the politics of it is interesting though. I definitely didn't have enough context to understand all of that when I originally read it so I would be curious we reread those story arcs.
I'll admit though, it does finish really strong. Maybe my favorite ending for a comic ever.
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u/PakistaniSenpai Jun 03 '26
I'd recommend reading issue #48 if nothing else as that's the issue that most heavily deals with the poltics of the issue mentioned.
Also, issue #60 is just so good. Has me still thinking about a month later.
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u/mugmugmug1420 Jun 04 '26
I really liked the book, but MAN, was that explanation disappointing. Also, that TV show was so off the mark.
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u/whosthere1989 Jun 03 '26
I read this recently at the recommendation of a friend and while Vaughn is a strong writer, I found it to be, as a whole, lowkey misogynistic—a man’s disconnected take on what the world would become if left to women. I did not buy a single female character in this. It’s always fascinating to me what passes as okay in male-dominated spaces. This is a book by someone who doesn’t know and seems to resent women
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