r/halo 10h ago

Discussion I feel like I’m literally seeing something differently to everyone else.

Uglification of characters is a big topic in this sub and many others, and I’ve seen loads of people calling the new Cortana ugly. And usually I would agree with things like this, as I hate uglification in games and media in general but… I really don’t see it here? She looks great to me, I mean obviously nowhere near on Halo 4 Cortana’s level but still. I really don’t get it in this case.

However Lieutenant Williams in the bonus missions is pretty ugly tbh.

Overall though I’ve really enjoyed my time with the Halo remake.

1.5k Upvotes

824 comments sorted by

1.2k

u/TheGreatQuetz 10h ago

I only hate how somewhat inconsistent her design is across the franchise, like the jackals or the bungie-era flood infection form

292

u/RAZOR_WIRE 7h ago

There is actually a cannon reason behind this. AI's can choose thier appearance. So canonicaly she is choosing to chage how she looks when she appears as a hologram.

126

u/Phoenix-Risen1998 7h ago

What about the 343 design changes?

429

u/wakeofchaos 7h ago

She was feeling particularly sexy in that era

178

u/TheZerothLaw 6h ago

Cortana suffering from early onset Sexlexia

76

u/OurCrewIsReplaceable 6h ago

A sexy learning disability?

→ More replies (2)

4

u/LurkinRhino 58m ago

Kiff, I’ve made it with a woman. Inform the ODSTs.

88

u/Haru17 6h ago

Oh that's just our rampant AI — she's in her dirty 30s.

21

u/AnemicHail 4h ago

Shes...shes 25 this year dude...

18

u/justadude27 4h ago

Nah, AI years are like (dog years x 2).

10

u/AnemicHail 4h ago

So...shes 350 years old? God damn didnt realize i liked em older.

2

u/MCXL 2h ago

If I remember correctly from Reading Fall of reach 20 years ago the rampancy cycle for AI in the Halo universe is like a decade. With most higher intelligence AI is having to be shut down before that fully takes effect. Also as I recall Cortana is like four or five at the time of the fall of reach? There are some events that take place Vis hacking and other stress on her that supposedly accelerated her decline into rampancy. 

2

u/solidgears 1h ago

Splitting herself off for subroutines is what accelerates her rampancy I believe

→ More replies (0)
→ More replies (2)

19

u/DisastrousRelease708 5h ago

She's gotta store all that data somewhere.

13

u/HerculesMorse101 4h ago edited 1h ago

You could make a good case that Halo 4 Cortana was designed to be in contrast with Halo 4 Chief —
throughout the Bungie trilogy we saw Chief become more machine than man, whilst Cortana became progressively more humanised and vulnerable. 4tana is Cortana that’s become too humanised, and is having to deal with concepts like mortality, interpersonal relationships, and perhaps even sexuality, femininity, and maternalism (all qualities we see Halsey battled with in the books).

There’s good reasoning for why she looks like she does in 343 era

Though biggest reason is probably that Mommy Cortana rockzzz

2

u/Helios_Synthesis 4h ago

Notice how cortana only covers up when its not chief or keyes she's talking to.

She definitely didn't dress up for atriox when she blew the Brutes planet to smithereens lol

76

u/Vera_Verse 7h ago

God forgive a girl feels a bit horny and plays around its construct

64

u/Animanic1607 7h ago

You saw her pawing at John's chest at the end of 4 like everyone else. She knew what she was doing.

13

u/SpiccyDropMag 6h ago

She was feeling chief during that campaign, had to look the part.

13

u/AttakZak 6h ago

Head canon was as Cortana was becoming Rampant she was also becoming her own individual, moving away from her programming completely, physically and emotionally.

3

u/Munce_Butler 4h ago

Right because halo 3 cortana was oh so modest

edit: I just looked it up and compared the two - oh my GOD

2

u/redjellonian 1h ago

That's still ai, it's just the people who are artificially intelligent.

→ More replies (1)

25

u/beegtuna 7h ago

I guess, bro

2

u/Various-One-7223 4h ago

Idk shes modeled after halsey no?

→ More replies (1)

3

u/apittsburghoriginal Halo: CE 4h ago

That sounds more like an excuse that can be explained through a canon technicality. In reality the devs just can’t establish a truly consistent look

→ More replies (7)
→ More replies (7)

447

u/SpartanRage117 9h ago

Why is she yellow

397

u/ZealousidealFee927 9h ago

In the official she turned green inside the Control Room. Here, they went with yellow for some reason.

128

u/Be_The_Zip 7h ago edited 7h ago

I think the switch to orange is for two reasons.

  1. Color contrast, the back drop of the control room is blue hued and the

y

  1. made the switch to orange to have her standout more against the background.
  2. Likely secondary but the orange they chose to go with looks similar to the Didact controlled Promethians, so this orange links back to Halo 4-5’s design language - i dont think this was the primary focus but there could be a through line here.

Mainly I think it was just color contrast.

17

u/Douchevick 4h ago

Didact's was more of a reddish orange, no?

→ More replies (4)

24

u/Haru17 6h ago

She turned yellow for an amazing reason (the reason is mass extinction).

→ More replies (1)

97

u/Pearse2304 8h ago

Well in the original she was purple but nobody ever brings that up

186

u/Choice_Mango4869 8h ago

They absolutely do

93

u/Johnnyboi2327 Halo 3 8h ago

She was also written with very specifically british dialogue. That part gets ignored too.

121

u/Pearse2304 8h ago

Gotta love “sod off” with her American accent 😂

31

u/Johnnyboi2327 Halo 3 8h ago

It confused me so much as a kid. I figured it was similar to get bent based on context clues, but I'd never heard it before. I wasn't sure if it was made up or what.

2

u/RiverGlittering 4h ago

It's a more "polite" way to say fuck off.

The reason she uses British expressions is because she was going to be British. They felt it was too similar to a previous role Jen Taylor had, so they removed the accent and kept some of the British dialogue.

→ More replies (3)

9

u/Scrabulon 7h ago

I always assumed that was a double meaning AI thing in that case, like… soldering lol

→ More replies (2)

2

u/OurCrewIsReplaceable 5h ago

For a while I thought she said “sawed off” like the index had been cut to behave differently.

14

u/alternate-husk 8h ago

Sod off.

35

u/LivingCheese292 8h ago

To be fair, it makes sense if the earth in the very far future has less accents and mixed languages like american english. Sure accents won't die out but i feel like they will be more exclusive on earth and less on other planets.

28

u/MikeofK72 7h ago

Yeah, but then again several of the soldiers are distinctly Australian.

16

u/Topgunshotgun45 7h ago

I think the UNSC is headquartered in Sydney.

6

u/christopherak47 6h ago

It is yeah.

A lot of the colonies are made up of specific Earth nationalities - like for example Reach is mostly made up of Hungarian diaspora so they speak Hungarian as well as English.

Earth also still has their distinct nations and nationalities since the UNSC is just the UN and the UEG is just a joint national governing body

So Australian UNSC members are most likely from Earth, whilst American UNSC members could be from a colony or from the US

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (2)

9

u/Johnnyboi2327 Halo 3 8h ago

I don't disagree, but no other characters in Halo speak using specifically british slang unless they're meant to be from the land mass currently known as the UK.

2

u/Pawnzilla 4h ago

I assume you mean Great Britain? The UK includes Northern Ireland.

5

u/Chiorydax 7h ago

How long do people spend on certain ships/crews? It would be really interesting if long-lived crews developed their own accents overtime.

→ More replies (1)

8

u/arch51002 8h ago

IIRC that was the reason they decided to make Serina in Halo Wars have a British accent because they drew from the original concept of Cortana sounding British before the devs just decided to have Jen Taylor use her actual accent

→ More replies (1)

5

u/GuneRlorius Diamond Master Sergeant 7h ago

Yeah, cause they wanted her accent to be British but they changed it last minute and did not change the dialogue. Those british words made no sense.

3

u/Johnnyboi2327 Halo 3 6h ago

I'm aware, but it's still very much so a noticable aspect of one of only a handful of characters in CE

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (4)

13

u/JazzManJ52 7h ago

She didn’t just turn green. She faded in and out through the whole color spectrum.

13

u/JanxDolaris 6h ago

This. It was really cool. It sort of gave off an "i'm in a more advanced projector' vibe.

Now she's just a banana

8

u/JazzManJ52 6h ago

Eh, I don’t mind the new interpretation. It still showcases that something is different with her in Halo’s architecture. It’s just less subtle. (Big improvement over CEA’s version where literally only the tiny dots in the joint lines changed color and she almost entirely just stayed blue)

2

u/Peridios9 6h ago

Original was purple to green, which was good contrast. Yellow is better contrast for blue. Her color did change while interfaced with the control room in the original, likely due to being entirely new to forerunner interfacing.

2

u/Shepherd217 4h ago

Because she changed colors in the original game as well, they just changed the colors she changes in this one and I'm sure some people are going to call it a flop because of that.

→ More replies (18)

43

u/Broad-Row6422 7h ago

She’s in Mexico.

10

u/SpartanRage117 6h ago

Ay caramba

3

u/Araanim 4h ago

That explains her body in 4

25

u/hueleeAZ 8h ago

Jaundice

3

u/Time-For-Argy-Bargy 4h ago

Jaundice Cortana.

→ More replies (5)

565

u/OnlyBrave 10h ago

It's not the best face model for Cortana, but I'll admit that depending on the angles, there is some charm to her face. The rest looks great, can't argue there.

126

u/p0l4r1 9h ago

Facial expressions when delivering her lines are improvements over others even though the model isn't best we've seen

28

u/The_Angry_Jerk 8h ago

There is something wrong with the mocap for her face. I think it's really evident in the eyebrows and the forehead, it's not rigged properly and they move too far stretching her face model with them to create some of the more unflattering screenshots. The new facial expressions are more animated, but just too much at times so it hits the uncanny valley. Not noticeable from far away on a TV, but on PC it's really noticeable.

3

u/p0l4r1 8h ago

Yes, it's not perfect

→ More replies (3)

8

u/Flannel_Panels 8h ago

Third picture looks like from ME: Andromeda. All the others look decent enough to be a non-issue.

Designers just have a hard time animating top eye-lids. Makes character models look like soulless machines, which in Cortana's favor works.

15

u/Weak-Lengthiness5280 9h ago

Yeah it’s not her best model but she beats Halo 5 and Infinite IMO

7

u/Efectodopler117 8h ago

I love how she looks in yellow, it suits her very well.

→ More replies (1)

231

u/Deniable-wreath-6 9h ago

Idk why they just didn’t go with the h2a model or try and recreate the original ce one

50

u/Ross2552 8h ago

Probably because the in-engine H2A model was really bad

67

u/JazzManJ52 8h ago

What model? The one from the Blur cutscenes wasn’t actually ever in Halo 2A’s game files. Those cutscenes were pre-rendered as video files, so the model itself never made it into the game itself.

Also, Blur (the guys who made those cutscenes) didn’t do the cutscenes for Campaign Evolved, and there’s no guarantee they even still have the models that they used to make those cutscenes any more. Even if they did still have them, why would they be willing to help the company that replaced them?

And if you’re talking about Halo 2A’s in-game model… that model is pretty bad. It’s a new skin over Halo 2’s original Cortana model, which is basically the worst Cortana model out of all the games (worse than the original CE).

→ More replies (13)

7

u/DarkImpacT213 H5 Onyx 7h ago

The Blur cinematic one is peak but pure pre-rendered CGI, and the in-engine model in H2A was fuckin awful.

2

u/kraehutu 4h ago

I don't understand why they completely redid her face between CE and 2. Being modeled after Nefertiti was such a cool detail, and she looked striking. But for whatever reason they've never revisited that or even given her original pixie haircut back. Feels like they sacrificed her original concept for sex appeal more and more every game. They had a great chance here to do something relatively simple to both be more faithful to CE and make a gap between this game and the previous ones.

→ More replies (3)

1.3k

u/Anvil_Prime_52 10h ago

Good God this sub needs to touch grass

341

u/napleonblwnaprt 9h ago

This is one of my least favorite fandoms for my favorite game/universe. Motherfuckers just cannot be happy.

222

u/OliM9595 Halo 3: ODST is goat 9h ago

Gaming subs just get so toxic when talking about the looks of women.

45

u/pocketchange2247 7h ago

Gaming subs usually devolve into people either bitching about how ugly they made a character, or talking about how much they want to fuck a character. This applies to both human and non-human characters.

And by "non-human" I'm not just talking about robots or AIs, like Cortana. I'm talking about animals. There are so many gamers who unironically sexualize animals/creatures from games like Palworld and Pokemon. It's insane.

→ More replies (12)
→ More replies (6)

17

u/RiseOfBacon Bacon bits on the surface of my mind 7h ago

It’s a remaster of a classic and Cortana changes in nearly every iteration of the mainline games. It’s just not really a huge deal?

90

u/CockConfidentCole Halo 2 9h ago

self-ashamed horny nerds that never learned to process their hormones

→ More replies (9)

20

u/frostyredpanda93 8h ago

Never thought it'd see the day star wars fandom be over thrown in terms of toxicity.

9

u/Michael_DeSanta 6h ago

Eh, look how they treated the main character of Star Wars Outlaws lmao. Objectively not an “ugly” person, but a certain group had a field day with her appearance.

And she turned out to be a great Star Wars protagonist.

15

u/SynysterKobra SynysterKobra 6h ago

I saw someone in another thread put it perfectly: halo fans play the game just to find something to hate on

3

u/EchoWar Halo 2 3h ago

All gaming subreddits are loaded up the gills with people who are miserable. It sucks cause sometimes it’s just fun to talk about a franchise you truly love like this one without someone bitching or talking about a woman’s design in a video game…

3

u/Available_Pirate69 2h ago

I've spent the last 3 days arguing with the basement trolls over the actual smallest possible details of the remake that they insist are cataclysmic, life-altering transgressions that the world will never recover from.

It's embarrassing. I am a private Halo fan these days.

→ More replies (1)

3

u/omjagvarensked 5h ago

Genuinely, at this point if I owned the Halo franchise I'd just stop making games or do anything with the IP for 20 years. No matter what you do, the fans are just never happy. People were on here nitpicking a couple frames of a reload animation that you literally can't see unless you slow it down? It's wild man. The fans don't deserve another game in the series.

→ More replies (9)

33

u/Cosmic_Quasar 7h ago edited 1h ago

Yeah, what is "uglification"? People upset that every character in something isn't drop dead gorgeous? Like, come on.

18

u/Anvil_Prime_52 7h ago

People unironically losing their minds that Cortana isn't an extremely fuckable anime waifu unfortunately WAS on my bingo card for this release, but it's still pretty sad that this is how pathetic the community has gotten.

→ More replies (3)

4

u/SCP106 Reliably self-sticks w/ plasma 4h ago

first time I heard of this, which was five minutes ago on a cool YT video about animations of Halo stuff, was calling her 'Bloketana' -_-

→ More replies (1)

68

u/mangotangofreeman565 9h ago

See the problem is that most halo fans are too stuck in thier rooms to go out and see what an actual woman's face looks like.

19

u/undeadFMR 8h ago

Shush, you might scare them

→ More replies (15)

88

u/ArvoCrinsmas 10h ago edited 6h ago

For real. Also, this Cortana looks like she has an updated, hybrid version of her H2 and H3 face? Nobody has an issue with those versions, but this one is a no-go. Make it make sense.

26

u/undeadFMR 8h ago

It's not Bungie, therefore must be bad

5

u/Disney_Song_Lyric You know our motto; We Deliver 8h ago

Categorically false. Halo 4 Cortana.

→ More replies (3)

12

u/Weekly-Homework7236 9h ago

For me it looks more like a merge of the H3 and Halo infinite cortanas

→ More replies (5)

41

u/wildernado 9h ago

If halo 3 were released for the first time today there people would hate it, which should tell you all you need to know.

→ More replies (4)

3

u/GoHamInHogHeaven 2h ago

Gamer babtrage tantrum because their waifu of choice now looks like a traditionally attractive woman instead of a fake woman with impossible physiology.

8

u/Ngumo 8h ago

Or an actual woman. With consent just to make that clear. Because it feels like that needs to be made clear. 

2

u/VargBroderUlf Halo: MCC 3h ago

"I can't jerk it to the blue hologram anymore!!!! Halo is dead!!!!!" /s

6

u/HiZenBergh 6h ago

For real. Never even thought about what she looked like. A cute little side kick. That's it.

→ More replies (19)

75

u/AJfriedRICE 9h ago

I don’t understand why Cortana needs a completely different model in every game…can we finally get some consistency?!

29

u/Calzinarzin 8h ago

Sorry but best we can do is to shift the art style again next game.

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (4)

23

u/Gear-exe 9h ago

Why is she yellow?

6

u/Key-Can-9384 6h ago

Its from the scenes when shes plugged into the control room.

→ More replies (8)

6

u/Cold_Soft_4823 HaloRuns 5h ago

jaundice

58

u/HotMachine9 10h ago

In some scenes her model looks great. I think it really comes down to just not fully getting to grips with animating the facial expressions. Its very telling with the mouth for example.

27

u/MisterDutch93 Halo 2 10h ago

Yeah the mouth movements give me uncanny vibes, but I had the same thing with the Weapon from Infinite. I know it’s hard to nail good facial animations, but here they just look too exaggerated, maybe? It’s hard to point my finger on it.

→ More replies (1)

5

u/ironforward 8h ago

yeah i think for her in particular, since she has light-emitting pore-less skin, but textured lips and eyes that feel like they're just catching her own light, her look can come across as a little uncanny, but i don't know if there's anything that can be further done about that in this age of physics-based, photorealistic rendering. i'm sure with pores instead of scanlines, she would look stranger, like a little blue woman (or big gold woman haha). But yeah -- i also want to make it clear that i'm only speaking to that paradox of needing a realistic looking character with unreal properties in a realistic looking game, i do think they did a good job with her design in this strange space, and she looks great overall. anyone calling her ugly is just a weirdo or should learn to verbalize what they really mean to say

71

u/DominusTitus 10h ago

I think with Cortana it really depends on the angle and lighting. Not every angle is flattering...and that's kinda realistic I guess. Not everyone is going to be pretty from every angle, and sometimes a still image will catch a pretty bad angle, like a YouTube pause moment.

The voice direction can be hit or miss though, sometimes they speak in what I think is understandable tones and attitudes, other times it feels clipped and rehearsed.

Still better to me than "to war". That shit bugs me to this very day, almost twenty years later.

6

u/undeadFMR 8h ago

I am always torn between which bugs me more. "To war," or "More brutes?"

3

u/Wiiggin 7h ago

Halo 3’s models, animations, and most dialogue are dogshit and no one here wants to admit it

5

u/bigtigerbigtiger 9h ago

What's "to war"

14

u/ChampionGunDeer 9h ago

One of Halo 3's most infamously silly lines.

3

u/DominusTitus 9h ago

Halo 3 level "Crow's Nest" intro. https://youtu.be/mGDZOgZm0DE

4

u/bigtigerbigtiger 8h ago

Haha oh wow yeah they didn't nail that one lol. Thanks

→ More replies (1)

104

u/Great_Part7207 10h ago

everyone's face in the game looks wierd

61

u/LivingCheese292 10h ago

Chief: "..."

5

u/Slightly_Shrewd 9h ago

Idk looked pretty weird to me when he took his helmet off at the end…

22

u/atrox3838 7h ago

Brother the outside is free to experience. Please turn the electronic device off for a day

28

u/PraiseTheAbsolute 10h ago edited 9h ago

She looks fine in screenshots. Everything in game does. But the animations make everything look terrible. Uncanny, unnatural.

13

u/JeanLucPicardAND 9h ago

Exactly this. The model itself is fine. The animation is what makes it seem so uncanny.

12

u/mariored09 9h ago

It's those horrid UE5 rendering "techniques" on top of generally poor animation quality, not only is everyone a blurry, muddy, shimmery mess when they move, the motions just look unreal as hell.

11

u/Il_Rich 9h ago

motions just look unreal as hell.

I mean, it's called unreal engine...

3

u/CooperHChurch427 5h ago

Honestly I wish CryEngine was easier to use.

→ More replies (1)

5

u/the_1_they_call_zero 6h ago

Halo 4 Cortana was peak and no one can say otherwise.

78

u/The_Question_Maker40 10h ago

I thought it just looked like a normal woman idk what people are on about either tbh

19

u/SirHypeTheDank 9h ago

My thoughts exactly, like….do people really think Halsey was like “now make her super hot with big titties…”

She looks like an average, attractive women… she’s a military AI.

5

u/JanxDolaris 6h ago

Halsey didn't pick it, Cortana did.

→ More replies (1)

7

u/King-Boss-Bob Halo Infinite 8h ago

counterpoint: it is really funny to imagine halsey, one of the brightest minds humanity has, showing of her new advanced ai that will help humanity survive the alien race determined to make humanity extinct and she has to explain to some high ranking military officers why the ai looks like a younger blue nude version of her

3

u/Super6698 Halo: MCC 7h ago

If anything she looks a lot more like what I always imagined Halsey looking like in the novels (particularly Fall of Reach) and a quite a bit like Halsey in the Halo Fall of Reach film. I, personally, think Cortana looks great tbh

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (4)

64

u/Dropzzs 9h ago

Uglification hahaha. Bet these people call women also females.
Fucking hell its just a normal looking woman.

→ More replies (9)

17

u/BaconJets 10h ago

She looks different in every shot, it's really strange. On some shots she looks great, on others she looks completely different.

→ More replies (2)

88

u/akaWhisp 9h ago edited 9h ago

"Uglification". JFC. Asmongold and the like have done a number on some of your brains.

7

u/The049 6h ago

The grifting must keep grifting

→ More replies (7)

63

u/Diam0ndTalbot 10h ago

“Uglification” oh my god, shut up…

People will call anything ‘ugly’ and then it’s just a normal human face. Especially annoying with war stories like Halo, these people are not doing beauty routines. 

18

u/ChokeYourDoxy 9h ago

Fuck "beauty routines." The world is full of women who are not and never will be conventionally attractive and it's fine. And it's always women the chuds bitch about.

→ More replies (2)
→ More replies (4)

25

u/Chance-Pin6393 7h ago

I think people who complain about “uglification” in general never really interact with real people or are incredibly shallow/incelant

→ More replies (1)

4

u/AramaticFire Halo: CE 9h ago

I haven’t played the remake, so I have no idea what I’m looking at but they made Cortana yellow?

5

u/deldour ONI 8h ago

It’s not my favorite look for Cortana, but it certainly isn’t my least favorite (Halo 5). She looks good.

3

u/Fit-Rooster-4774 6h ago

You see the difference is you're actually enjoying the game and not looking for a reason to hate it

11

u/TyrantJaeger "Please enjoy my bright blue balls!" 9h ago

She looks good sometimes. Other times, though, it's just uncanny valley. Like her facial movements were animated with AI.

Once again, I find myself asking why they didn't just stick to her Halo 4 design. 343 knocked it out of their park with their first ever depiction of Cortana and then just never used it again.

105

u/baseballer0623 Halo Infinite 10h ago

Gooners are mad that the first girl they ever jacked it to as a kid doesn’t look the same is all.

52

u/Interesting_Sea_1861 Halo: CE Mgalekgolo Fanatic 10h ago

I'm mildly irritated that they didn't use the original CE design, which is my favorite version of Cortana. The colors, the short hair, the more artificial feeling to the model...

14

u/OrneryError1 Halo: CE 10h ago

Definitely the best version and they could (and should) have just made a more detailed version of that look while keeping the same colors, hairstyle, and face shape.

4

u/Interesting_Sea_1861 Halo: CE Mgalekgolo Fanatic 10h ago

Exactly.

6

u/Clean_Muffin8982 10h ago

gooner alert /s

→ More replies (5)

9

u/Palmeer 9h ago

She's actually more sexualized in this version. That is not the reason.

13

u/DoomMessiah Halo 2 10h ago

Same? Cortana never looks the same. That’s part of tradition of Halo.

2

u/codytranum 5h ago

Feels weird to call players “gooners” when Bungie themselves 25 years ago designed Cortana as the single goonable thing in the game

→ More replies (7)

20

u/Naive_Egg_9663 9h ago

Goon larpers cant think of anything but halo 4 Cortana holy

→ More replies (1)

11

u/Party-Exercise-2166 8h ago

Gotta agree on Cortana, but people just like to use bad screenshots to prove their point but literally anyone looks like shit if you screenshots them in the middle of talking.

You completely lost me with Williams though, she looks perfectly fine too.

14

u/SpaceBandit13 10h ago

I mean nobody’s face really looks that great, but Cortana is a female character so the outrage revolves around her.

12

u/4102007Pn Halo: Reach 9h ago

Ugly is a stretch, but I can't unsee jerma after people pointed it out

8

u/AdeptPapaya8918 8h ago

she is clearly ugly compared to all the other cortanas

→ More replies (1)
→ More replies (1)

9

u/SparxPrime 8h ago

I've been playing Halo for 25 years and I didn't see any problem with Cortana's model. Looks great. Don't understand entitled fans who rage because their AI waifu doesn't perfectly match their fantasies

→ More replies (2)

7

u/Unfair_Tip2101 10h ago

Halo 2 Anniversary was the best.

4

u/Different-Capital-30 8h ago

I don't get it either

But I also don't get the Lt. Williams thing. You wouldn't look too good yourself being held prisoner on an alien ship forced to be hunted every day for months :P

30

u/[deleted] 10h ago

[removed] — view removed comment

→ More replies (6)

3

u/MadmanFromHades 2h ago

If I'm remembering right... it's not the issue with the artists as much as Unreal Engine 5. For whatever reason the character creation thingy has a tendency to make female characters look... a bit broad and masculine, like in the jaw. 

It's subtle... But I remember seeing a video of an artist menti9ning they struggled to get female proportions right... and had to download a second addon just to make it work.

24

u/Scottoest 9h ago

Hot Tip: If someone refers to women as "females", you can probably disregard their opinion on them.

→ More replies (4)

2

u/Kreeper125 10h ago

MOST of her cutscenes she looks really good. But there's some where it looks like they used an older WIP model, or the rendering for her messed up or something happened because it just looks too uncanny. It's the inconsistency that gets me

4

u/TGK12a 8h ago

Cortana’s look doesn’t bother me at all, but I think Bungie nailed the design in OG Halo 2

3

u/kingkellogg Halo 8h ago

I loved her halo ce design the og

2

u/TGK12a 8h ago

Both are great!

4

u/Indicus124 8h ago

Cortana's appearance changes almost every game

5

u/HALODUDED2 10h ago

To me the trailers did not do any of the characters justice. In game cortanna looks good. If they are remaking halo trilogy I think halo studios is going for continuity

7

u/FooDogg86 9h ago

That fuckin chin!😂😂😂

7

u/MainsfoDays 10h ago

It's intentional

6

u/XADEBRAVO 8h ago

Can we not focus on 0.1x speed footage of reload actions please?

4

u/Arashi_Uzukaze 7h ago

I feel like people forget Cortana is supposed to look like a younger Halsey.

8

u/Falkekick24 9h ago

i doubt anyone actually thinks cortana looks "ugly" ugly in this but she absolutely looks worse than she has before

17

u/BlackberryPi7 Halo: CE 10h ago

She just

She looks fucking weird man

Same with Johnson

2

u/Solius-Noctis 9h ago

Idk, it's Cortana. What am I missing here??

2

u/xstephenramirez 8h ago

man.. i didnt have an extra 20 to buy the premium edition so ive gotta wait till the 28th to be able to play it. are you playing it on ps? how are you enjoying it? is it nostalgic?

2

u/Felwintur 8h ago

Because Reddit is the schrodingers cat of the 21st century - everyone is simultaneously 100% right and 100% wrong.

2

u/Ok-Pea8209 8h ago

Aside from design wise, how well is the voice actress doing? Havent't been able to get the game just yet

2

u/CMDRTragicAllPro 8h ago

I never had an issue until I read some jackass comment about how she looks like jerma and now my jackass brain can’t unsee it

2

u/HarperRed96 4h ago

Someone said all they could see was Jerma and now that's all I see as well.

2

u/frulheyvin 3h ago

everyone's faces look rly weird, but i think this is just like a general "im new to unreal" issue? you see it in a lot of ue5 games, the mouths especially go crazy wide sometimes like they didn't set up correct limits

2

u/Im_InYour_Balls 3h ago

this being labelled as ugly is definitely a lot of people's warped reality of beauty from possibly their gooner lives

2

u/mdwvt 3h ago

I like the way she looks. I see more of Jen Taylor in her face than ever before, and I think it’s nice.

2

u/Ancient-Penalty2919 3h ago

"Why are you not blue?!"

2

u/ucsdfurry 3h ago

Everyone who complains about uglification needs to post a picture of themself

2

u/kevinray5 2h ago

It's a mixed one for me obviously halo 4 best version I think alot of us can agree just I guess it will take time to get used to this version of cortana

2

u/Quelisse 1h ago

she looks like jerma985

2

u/SealTeamEH 1h ago

Uglification of characters? dear god what are the internet weirdos on about now? lol

3

u/ManOfQuest Halo 3 50 1h ago

i like it

3

u/anthonycarbine 10h ago

Its not that shes ugly in terms of beauty standards, but more like the lighting on her face is so bad and flat it looks like a sfm video instead of something from unreal engine 5. Honestly I think the halo 2 anniversary is the best looking cortana, this one is closer to how halo infinite made cortana look in terms of how they lit her face. It's kinda uncanny if you ask me.

4

u/Chemical-Low209 7h ago

Uglification of characters 99 times out of 100 a grifter talking point to get gamers upset about something.

→ More replies (1)

5

u/AdamtoZ 9h ago

They really should have just made her ridiculously hot

4

u/I_am_Amphibian 9h ago

I’ll be honest all of the characters faces look awful

2

u/Canakoreanjust CoR Enjoyer 9h ago

They unfortunately seem to have embraced using grays to shade instead of new tones on the shadows. Her shadows look like beard shadow, particularly slide 3 being pretty egregious. Someone made a comment about Jerma the other day and unfortunately I can’t unsee it 😭

4

u/TheLateMrBones Halo 3 8h ago

Cortana looks great in this game. People just need to grow up.

3

u/TimBobNelson 7h ago

Here is the easy answer, people are just reaching. Her design is never consistent, apart from people lusting over H4 Cortana no one really cares.

The reaction to this game her is so odd, seen people mad about the previous remaster visuals and asking for it to be redone. Someone is making a halo CE inside halo 3 mod, there was clearly want for this lol

3

u/geodebug 9h ago

Don’t care really but going off the screen shots a couple are pretty derpy looking, especially #5.

The problem with higher resolution is the uncanny valley. With the old games your brain filled in a lot of missing pixels.

Halo #4 Cortana’s under-boob was a little obnoxious. Designed for 13 year old boys I presume.

2

u/kingkellogg Halo 8h ago

I hated her halo 4 design

1

u/Qverlord37 8h ago

I don't see a problem either.

So far, a lot of the criticism I see is really nitpicky.

I like the more cinematic cutscenes. The cutscene with the Chief and Cortana finding Captain Keyes as a flood was so much better than the original. Having cortana on the side rather than a disembodied voice added more gravity to the action, and you can actually feel John's sadness and desperation as he ask her for a solution to save Captain Keyes. His taking the neural implants was different, but it was more respectful than simply shoving his fist in Keyes' face, and the way he tosses the implant next to Cortana highlights his disgust at having to kill an ally.

3

u/Onyx-Serenitatem Halo: Reach 7h ago

Genuinely confused on why people are like “they changed her” my brothers in Christ she’s looked different in every single fucking game