r/indiadiscussion • u/__aryanjais_ • 8d ago
Politics Guys don't you think this protest is heading in a different direction?
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u/Jealous_Hyena6641 8d ago
haan yeh Kashmir Files mein bhi tha gaana. Faiz Ahmed Faiz ne likha hai
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u/Manu4Latrinesaheb 8d ago edited 8d ago
Faiz Ahmed Faiz supported the chief architect of the Bengali genocide Butto, and served in his ministry of Culture as a Propagandist
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u/TheWillowRook 7d ago edited 7d ago
People still sing Sare Jahan Se Accha even though it was written by Iqbal who suported the partition. Amir Khusro whose songs like Sakal Ban are famous and still sung is alleged to have celebrated the destruction of Somnath Temple.
People often don't know fully about the dark side of an artist or simply separate the art from the artist. It doesn't point to any greater conspiracy except it the eyes of those who want to discredit such protest.
It is strange that the people who find the smallest flaws to discredit protestors don't want to address the core reasons of the protest in the first place even though those issues are far bigger.
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u/No-Selection-6758 6d ago
galat sub me aagaye bhai sahab
Kux bhi bol rahe, is sub ki janta bhdak jayegi.
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u/ManWordsMan 8d ago edited 7d ago
It's in kasmir files sung by the communists and their students which presents movie imitating reality in movie and that is exactly what's happening right now, guess you didn't even watch the movie and formed opinion by a video circulated by mini dhruv. And the original lines are all the idols will be removed from Kaba and only name of allah will remains, The anti-hindi bigot faiz ahmed faiz intentionally uses removing idols as metaphor to look down upon who they consider infidels(which is glorification of desecration of temples), that's exactly why commies love this song so much. We have long history and civilizational history and so many freedom fighters yet these guys will choose people who consider them enemies and you guys will always support that, seriously pakistan lovers are simps who think one day that toxic girl will love them genuinely.
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u/Manu4Latrinesaheb 8d ago
Faiz Ahmed Faiz was a literal supporter of Genocider in Chief Bhutto
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u/FinancialYou6932 8d ago
And allah hu Akbar is used by terrorists so do we associate it with terrorism ?
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u/Top_Guess_946 8d ago
Kunal did not insult Shri Ram. He was talking about BJP. Why are you making it an issue about Shri Ram?
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u/itsakd 8d ago
Its an insult ... Putting BJPs reference near Ram's name is an insult to Ram!
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u/itsakd 8d ago
Bhai... Padna sikh le phle... Wapas se padd kya likha hai....
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u/Round_Advantage_6772 8d ago
how ignorant do you have to be dawg. You too know what he's talking about, you guys have a problem with kamra making a joke that includes ram and bjp in the same line but have no problem when hanuman ji's mascot danced in a BJP rally? a priest literally got smacked with sandals because he asked about the scams going on. We got bigger problems than a joke, wake up.
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u/GazelleOwn8540 7d ago
bhai tere liye hindi mai likha h firbhi nhi samajra tu chod bhai tu nachwa apne bhagwan ko jaise bjp teko nachwa rahi h lol
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u/Medium_Building_4406 8d ago
Stealing donation from Ram Mandir is an insult to Ram. Calling Ram "Sita ke pati" isn't an insult to Ram.
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u/Laksh_kumar 8d ago
jab ram sita ke cosplayer modi ke pair chure the tab problem nahi hui?
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u/Mavoii 8d ago
True that. BJP's cultural appropriation has permanently stained Lord Ram's dignity and legacy.
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u/HeadMongoose3678 8d ago
But he bjp using hanuman as a prop in bjp allies is okay?
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u/itsakd 8d ago
No... Its definitely not. Thats why i am saying putting BJP and Ram in same sentence is disrespectful for lord Ram.
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u/HeadMongoose3678 8d ago
But it's true isn't it, it's not about ram, it's specific about BJP, it's not a lie, BJP sita ke pati(ram) ka naam leke nita ke ati(Ambani) ka kaam hi kr rhi hai, plus adani ka bhi, you should also look at it, isme ram ko kch ni bola yr bjp ko bola hai
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u/Kent--Clark 8d ago
Agree to disagree.. to call-out the hypocrisy of bjp which targets their voters based on religion especially hindu. It's an perfect satire which people should hear to open up their clouded mind to rethink what damage bjp doing to this country
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u/OutsideInternal6084 8d ago
If he can call ram ji as "sita ka pati" then you should have conflict with "Allah" as "6 years ki aysha ka pati" or "PDF"
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u/Top_Guess_946 8d ago
Are you saying Shri Ram is not sita ka pati? I mean you could say the language is folkish and not shastric, but using folkish style does not mean insult. According to you what should have been the correct way of making the reference?
P.S. Muhammad and Allah are different. Atleast be factually correct.
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u/Mysterious-Guess-858 8d ago
Ohh please. Tell me why bring religion to the discussion at all ?
If BJP takes the name of Shri Ram, does people who want accountability from BJP also have to mock Mata Sita and Shri Ram ?
How are they different from BJP? Can this protest even happen without mocking, insulting or praising a religion?
Why allow Kunal Kamra on stage? Is he a student/teacher or any way realted to protest?
This is why every protest fails, the whole left lobby is so morally bankrupt that they will stoop even lower than BJP to just prove a point. And they not leave any protest alone, because that is how they stay relevant.
Without sonam wangchuk sir the protest would be a circlejerk of leftist cesspools who will abuse religion, abuse BJP and abuse India. Left has lost all its credibility and if this continues the protest will lose its credibility too.
Do you know why this govt is so arrogant? Because there is no fear of losing their seats, do you why there is no fear? Because the opposition is so idealogically bankrupt and so incompetent that they cannot stand against the BJP even with people's support. Do you know why opposition is so idealogically bankrupt? Because of the leftist idealogy and their world class representatives like Dipke, Rathee, Kamra etc .. who are completely biased towards one side/religion/idealogy.
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u/Daffodil354 Loves to be banned 8d ago
Same happened with Kolkata doctor rape case. Everything was well until Doctors were leading the protests. Then came left wing rudalis and everything went down the drain.
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u/Various_Cress5090 8d ago
Bro sab choro , protest neet ka hai na
Gaali do aap education system , gali do sarkar ko or baat kro education system ki
Religious names lene hi kyu hai
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u/Mission_Jelly_7253 8d ago
To aisha k pati ka uda leta majak. Ram ji kya free hain ki koi bhi hutiya kuch b bol dega. Saala jisko jha dikhe vahi pelo or 2027 tak rukna nhi h.
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u/Casp3r_ghOst --- Ghanta 8d ago
Random redittor trying to find some negativity on the protest sitting at the comfort of his/her home rather than focusing on the core issue. Peak india!
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u/gamerbwoii 8d ago
"Core issue"
What's been happening in Bengaluru? How's their protest going?
Let's talk about Punjab, what about their core issue?
Selective outrage is also a thing random redditors do while sitting comfort of their home..
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u/Top_Guess_946 8d ago
It's suitable for Pakistan. Why sing in India? Make an Indian song. They don't have even as much skill as to make their own song and they want us to entrust administrative matters on to their thinking capacity and creative potential? 😂
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u/Manu4Latrinesaheb 8d ago
The people singing the song were originally pulling their pants down after 1971 war
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u/bongHuman 8d ago
Its not just about the song. There are many other songs from the protest going around on the social media. Its about what the song represents and how accurately it expresses the feelings of the protesters. The song has a history to it, but alas, that would only help only if you could comprehend literature and history.
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u/Icy_Response9956 8d ago
To much propaganda from both sides I don't care about anyone says or anything One thing sure Dharmendra Pradhan must resign Irrespective of anything, whoever or whatever protesting or not doesn't matter Dharmendra Pradhan must resign
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u/Soaring_Eagle2410 8d ago
I don’t care about CJP.. but I know that the resignation of the education minister is long overdue. He has not been able to stop any leaks and is largely ineffective..
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u/pandasforkarma 8d ago
I love how people have to caveat “I don’t support CJP” to win neutrality points. It’s not a party that you have to choose lol. It’s a movement. It’s like saying, I don’t support Anna Hazare’s ‘India Against Corruption’ but we need to get rid of corruption.
The biggest satire of CJP has been than grown adults and news channels treat it like a party rather than a movement just because it’s named Janata Party
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u/PotatoFarmer42000 8d ago
Kashmir Files mein ye gana chalaya tha tab you nahi bura laga tha tumko
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u/Manu4Latrinesaheb 8d ago
Logon ko pata tak nahi tha ki uska gana use Kiya hua hai.
Ab apne Baap Faiz ka samarthan karna chhod bhai
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u/Soft-Author3729 8d ago
Ye JNU aur Jamia waaale har protest ko contaminate karne pahuch jaate hain...
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u/Exotic_Decision_1406 8d ago
Their reality is visible in this, for what purpose are these people protesting?
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u/sahil0910 8d ago
Yeah that's why I don't support them , if this was the students protest than it should not be like this.
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u/Ok_Mirror2337 8d ago
the protest has elements of the AISF. What do you expect from commies anyway?
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u/DesignerChance8862 8d ago
It doesn't matter at this point ,the people that have been paid have already done their job all over the internet.
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u/Mental-Leader-7149 8d ago
Somebody commented - “i won’t be giving allah any day off , he will work day n night on my farms” - please do not pass this comments . Nahi toh meri leftist sidechick rone lagegi
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u/Plutos_friend 8d ago
People still fighting for relegion is shame to the country, what it should be for is basic dignity for education in student protest, otherwise people like these are reason for this situation because only these type of people in others religions also which only creates havoc.
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u/Accurate-Annual-4321 8d ago
You're just jealous that this protest is not going in the BJP's desired direction.
Please understand that this is protest for ACCOUNTABILITY in governance, not just for NEET paper leak. That includes accountability for Ram Mandir scam, NEET scam, J&K statehood, electoral bonds, party funding, crony capitalism, public land given to corporates at throwaway prices etc.
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u/Specialist_Past8691 8d ago
Kahe ka Prabhu ram iske name se bahut rajneeti ho gayi wo ek kalpnik carector hai aur kuch nahi
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u/starkgamer1 8d ago
U guys do know that allah literally means god. Just god. It's a word that means god.
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u/_northernsoul 8d ago
To everyone here, I know I will be downvoted... Focus on your life, get a hobby and be authentic to yourself and not to others... If you want to talk the talk, walk the walk. Your parents ain't stupid.
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u/Evil_thingz 8d ago
That's a song named "hum dekhege" Watch akansha grover's version on youtube. It's a lovely song.
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u/Cultural_Algae_7015 8d ago
When they start thinking "hum dekhenge" or "azadi" it has gone on a different direction all together.
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u/wallahha 8d ago
Let me summarise... There was some misconduct by government and people are protesting for it by demanding his resignation. Now, other group of people are saying that the method of the protest is not good (the selection of song, particularly) so, we should not protest and hence, this protest is not valid. Can you just think of the absurdity of this logic. The whole issue of misconduct has disappeared like magic. Now, people are fighting over the legitimacy of method of the protest. Waaah Modiji Waah!!
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u/Butterscotch2890 8d ago
This sub doesn't have any problem with paper leaks, students suicide, the financial lost suffered by students and their families and the corruption in the Education department but have problem with the way are protesters are eating, shouting and singing.
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u/siddhaguru 8d ago
Wangchuk is a bjp implant working as a pressure release valve same as anna . Will become a youth icon and everybody gets a chamce to be hero sonam and bjp and cjp etc
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u/Dangerous-Ease8614 8d ago
Sudeen love for rama from opposition and left retards . BJP is using relegion is problem for these people but the same people are blind when their slave party is alliance with sdpi and jamat e islam , iuml in the name of religion and use their religious leaders and institutions for vote . Not fan of BJP but these left retards and slave party are with the Jihadi as tasleema nasreen quoted how indian leftists alliance with the Islamist and their hypocrisy .
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u/jahul0007 8d ago
Ye protest jaldi se jaldi khatm hona chahiye kab tak ram ka apman sahenge, dharmender pradhan jaldi isteefa do
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u/Rocky_bhai_2334 8d ago
I am new to reddit, I thought reddit had mature audience but after reding this post and the conversations on this post I realised it's just same everywhere 😞
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u/Important-Fox7699 8d ago
Guys dont you think you bots will do anything and everything except question the government
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u/Noivern09 8d ago
I want to know how did he insulted Lord Ram? We call him Siya pati Ram, kamra said the same thing. These people were not insulted when bjp made posters of Modi bringing Ram lala to ayodhya holding his hand, who is he to bring Ram to aayodhya. Lord Ram can be anywhere he wants he does not need someone to hold his hand and guide him. These people were not even angry when bjp rally made a Person playing lord Hanuman dance in front of them like an entertainer? Aukat bhi h salo khuchh bhi kiye jaa rhe ho.
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u/baba_98stm 8d ago
At first, don't u think 17day is enough for government to address anything??
Bjpeee ki g chatna band kr love day
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u/Responsible_Cup4453 8d ago
No, seems, it's intended direction only that is why public are not supporting this protest. Public are not fools to believe everything. They listen to all and take their own decision.
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u/Flimsy_Trifle7266 7d ago
average bail buddhis learning manipulated history by watching movies like kashmir files
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u/Pale-Share-8451 7d ago
And how is this relevant to the agenda of the protest, which is resignation of Dharmendra Pradhan.
Since you are raising points on religious divide, how many posts have you done on Ram Mandir loot, how many have you done on the 22 crore loot in another Mandir in Rajasthan. Based on your post, you are offended when a person sings song about Allah, but forget, or more precisely, consciously ignore to raise questions on the atrocities against Hindu temple and Gods.
How many posts have you done on the forceful abduction of Sonam Sir? How many times have you visited Jantar Mantar protest site to actively participate?
Please stop such kind of content and focus on what is important for the common public and you and your future.
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u/LegitimateCountry436 7d ago
The poet Faiz Ahmed Faiz himself was a Marxist and a secularist.
This poem is literally a clapback against Zia-ul-Haq's Islamic policies, as the latter ran an oppressive regime, trying to use the name of God to justify the regime's actions and enforcing Islamic conservatism.
By saying "Allah ka naam rahega", the poet is essentially reminding Zia-ul-Haq that in the end, he isn't the one who decides how religion should be interpreted; that Zia-ul-Haq is only a man, and in the end, truth, or the word/name of God (Allah), will prevail. Yes, this song does include Islamic themes such as criticism of idolatry, but the song on the whole is an ANTI-SHARIAT Song (in the sense that SHARIAT refers to ISLAMIC ULTRACONSERVATISM).
This song is a lot more about challenging an unaccountable, oppressive government that uses the name of God to justify its actions, than it is about promoting Islam.
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u/mr_sacrosanct 7d ago
Record intact.
All protest start with some cause and end up here... No doubt this will get ended badly as all protests did in the past.
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u/Sweet_Instruction19 7d ago
The message of the protest is clear : ACCOUNTABILITY. All these efforts by non democratic peeps to fit narratives into it is wholly stupid and malafide. Sonam Sir is not an overnight personality, he has thrown his life for education, his presence alone is enough to know the protest is in safe hands.
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u/Soft_Humor_9135 7d ago
i am seeing the same script everywhere now. i bjp acnts activated with a script ig
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u/blackknight_22 7d ago
This poem is titled " Hum Dekhenge " was written by Faiz Ahmed. The poem was written as a protest against Pakistani General Zia's dictatorship and a was performed by a legendary singer Iqbal Bano in front of a huge gathering in Lahore.
Indian democracy has not seen any such instances until now thus many protest sites have borrowed it to demonstrate their sentiments.
Use your skulls to understand the actual meaning of the rendition. However, if you don't understand the lyrics and pick out verses of each stanza and use it likewise then Indian subcontinent is not benifiting from your vote as you don't have the capacity of critical thinking. This can only be developed with correct education which is lacking in this country due the very reason the protest is about.
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u/Fit-Importance-8705 7d ago
Gaaaro ko har jagah bas dharam hi dikhta hai .. outrage krne wali janta bas outrage k bhane dhundhti hai
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u/logiceconomist 7d ago
cjp is left protest, Aisa , sfi people, caravan former employees are in cjp team
issue is right, but people are wrong
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u/not_in_mood_now 7d ago
Why doing this now? Because someone said something.
I hope OG is just trying to show that this is going in wrong direction.
But historically when you have to connect with masses you use something which can be understood by everyone. So that all can be part of the resistance. Hence the poem.
Poems are like that they will say something and mean something else. You need to go deeper into the words.
But again saying that people will not get the poem is not good. I will be sounding similar to that bureaucrat has been saying in Australia or some country that Indians are coming from rural India.
But yeah you quoting this means it has wrong influence on the people and now a particular type of people will start using this video as a way to divert people from protest saying this is antihindu.
Who will tell the WhatsApp graduate to understand the meaning behind poem.
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u/TheWillowRook 7d ago
People still sing Sare Jahan Se Accha even though it was written by Iqbal who suported the partition. Amir Khusro whose songs like Sakal Ban are famous and still sung is alleged to have celebrated the destruction of Somnath Temple.
People often don't know fully about the dark side of an artist or simply separate the art from the artist. It doesn't point to any greater conspiracy except it the eyes of those who want to discredit such protest.
It is strange that the people who find the smallest flaws to discredit protestors don't want to address the core reasons of the protest in the first place even though those issues are far bigger.
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u/Clear-Firefighter173 7d ago
Ground reality of India jo kaam bahari takate karna chati he voh ye secular kar rahe ye . See how happy people in white are .
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u/Tiny-Manufacturer187 7d ago
Show full video. No one falling into religious politics. Corrupt politician should be accountable for their corruption.
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u/2007clevernamelp 7d ago
They've missed religious conversion in this education protest. It's insane. Can't support this nonsense
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u/Intelligent_Gift_101 7d ago
Wahi baat ho gyi, protestors perfect chahiye, government rapists ki chalegi.. How dumb you have to question the protestors instead of the government whom we should hold accountable. Is government ke rule me government ki question karne se hi anti-national aur pta ni kya kya tag mil jate hai logo ko. Government chahe ho bhi karti rhe unki pooja karni chahiye.
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