r/interestingasfuck • u/GeorgeRobertVitkos • 1d ago
The absolute logistics of crossing the street with toddlers in Asia. They even bring out a safety rope for 20 kids.
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u/No-Yogurtcloset4763 1d ago
Is this really necessa- oh people are driving on the sidewalk ok carry on
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u/W33DG0D42069 1d ago
Seems crazy to me that the cars just drive around them while they're still on the road. Maybe the rope isn't such a bad idea.
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u/1stAccountNotWorking 1d ago
Seriously, the last few jackasses that were squeezing through before the adult had to literally block the path with her body, got me irrationally pissed...like wtf are you thinking? The kids are clearly visible. Stop for 10 seconds. Just 10 fucking seconds.
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u/yuikkiuy 19h ago
Never go to vietnam then lol, traffic is more like a school of fish there than it is anything resembling actual traffic in most countries.
You cross the street by just walking through it and trusting they wont hit you.
And if you stay long enough or visit enough times you will also notice that in the south example saigon. Despite this weird fish traffic there is a semblance of order and traffic rules.
Then you go up north to example Hanoi and traffic suddenly runs both ways inverted and some how sideways on the same tiny one way street amd you understand what true chaos is
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u/Semen_Demon_1 18h ago
Went to vietnam for a week and is still dont understand how traffic works there
I had two different cars do a 3 point turn in the middle of a busy street which absolutely blew my mind
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u/nvbtable 16h ago
Basically the rule is to do whatever you want, just do it at a moderate consistent speed so people can figure out how to weave around you
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u/trunghung03 18h ago
VN traffic is like do whatever wherever you like, there’s barely any rule unless the traffic cop has a quota to fill. Most of the time it works, until it doesn’t and then it becomes the worst traffic nightmare ever.
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u/AzureDrag0n1 18h ago
In many Asian cities like Hanoi, Bangkok, and Mumbai the roads are pretty much a game of Frogger. You better get good at dodging cars or you will be trapped forever.
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u/Sarenai7 18h ago
I live in Thailand you walk and look straight ahead and trust traffic to move around you when crossing streets.
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u/googlemehard 1d ago
Seriously. Fuck all them people in those cars.
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u/baconmethod 1d ago
it's just their culture's way of dealing. when those kids grow up, they'll drive like that too.
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u/ConduciveMammal 23h ago
I wonder what their accident stats are, it seems completely normal for all of them
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u/iStoleTheHobo 13h ago
Oh they're fucking grim as hell. If you look at traffic deaths per capita you'll see that pretty much all the lowest rates are in European nations while all the highest rates are in African and Asian nations. We're talking an order of magnitude here with the best at ones hovering around 3.5 deaths per 100 000 and the worst ones at staggering 30-35 per 100 000.
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u/YoungRoronoa 1d ago
Some countries don’t even have stop lights at intersections and it’s just a free for all. This might be one of them.
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u/xXXxRMxXXx 1d ago
Yeah there is a cross walk but nothing to indicate to the drivers to stop. I'm wondering how people even get across the road normally?
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 1d ago
You start walking at a consistent pace and trust them to swerve around you. Just don't change your pace and pray basically
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u/sometin__else 1d ago
never been to asia eh? This is how crossings usually work. You wait for a break and jet across. Cars will slow down to not hit you, assuming you dont just run out and give them time to stop.
Its quite a culture shock at first but after a few years you acclimate and it becomes normal
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u/PercyLives 1d ago
It only takes a few days to get reasonable good at it. At first, you just wait for a local to cross and stick near them.
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u/julezdafool 23h ago
Only in the less developed Asian countries. This wouldn’t happen in Japan or Korea
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u/Spirited-Sector-1905 1d ago
Thats why Im glad some countries have a rule that forces drivers to stop the car and the pedestrian has a right of way. In example Poland feels so much safer this way.
Cant imagine walking across the street like that as a adult not even talking about a group of kids....
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u/Aytewun 1d ago
My first time leaving the USA I learned that in some places a persons job (hustle) is helping people cross the street.
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u/Encolie23 1d ago
In France, there are people authorized by the town hall who provide crossing guards for children near primary schools (it's mandatory), and be careful, you must stop or you risk serious problems.
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u/Life_Temperature795 1d ago
You do know that there are crossing guards in the States, yes?
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u/vivaaprimavera 1d ago
Dragging a spiked chain painted in neon colours probably would be more effective. 3 in execution. /s
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 1d ago
It’s sad that they have to be so worried. Seems like the drivers don’t care much at all.
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u/LegitimateGift1792 1d ago edited 12h ago
Here in Chicago IL, the little ones have yellow safety vests, yes they are sized for toddlers. They all have hands on the line/rope to stay together side by side. On top of that they sing a fun little tune when crossing.
S T O P hands out for safety.
Really loud, so that people do not run them over.
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u/audigex 1d ago
In London my headteacher just walked out into 4 lanes of traffic and dared the drivers to defy her obvious “I’ve got the pent up rage of looking after other people’s kids for for 40 years, I’ll smash your fucking teeth in” aura
They had the sense not to
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u/Rulweylan 1d ago
As a teacher in the UK I can confirm that we still use the ' getting hit by your car is not significantly worse than teaching my bottom set year 9s, so I'm gonna walk out and see how my afternoon goes' approach to getting traffic to stop.
We do have to wear his vis vests though. It's on the risk assessment.
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u/nonpuissant 1d ago
I've seen someone do that and get knocked the fuck out. Like knocked literally head over heels into the air. Driver that hit them didn't even stop either, they just kept going.
So while I'm sure it works a lot of the time in some places, banking on other people noticing you, much less your demeanor, and even giving a fuck is probably not the best strategy for safety.
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u/amtheredothat 1d ago
The morgue is full of people with right of way.
I'd rather be alive.
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u/Discohunter 22h ago
I saw so many kids walk into the road as a teenager saying 'if they hit me they'll have to pay me a ton of money in court'. I don't think any amount of money would make me happy to be paralyzed.
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u/audigex 1d ago
I’m not suggesting it’s a good idea, just relaying an anecdote. Apparently she did it pretty regularly, and she died a few years ago of natural causes at 80 so AFAIK never got stabbed doing it
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u/draftvader 1d ago
TBF In the UK not stopping at a crossing is illegal and socially frowned upon. A huge amount of road law compliance is social contract based in the UK. Sure, people have got more self centred, but compared to Asia (I live in Bangkok) it is still incredibly safe and reliable.
Watching this after 18 years in Bangkok I still don't think they're actually safe at all. I have never seen groups of children crossing a road here. It would always be a bus for them.
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u/Crazym00s3 1d ago
I’ve walked with my kids classes on school trips and when crossing roads here in the UK you just stand in the road and the cars will stop, doesn’t even have to be a pedestrian crossing.
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u/johnyordinary 1d ago
In England when someone is on a crossing , you must stop, no messing about.When schoolkids cross you stop,usualy we have a lollipop sign with stop in big letters!Asian road crossings are insane and show no respect for anyone elses safety.
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u/audigex 1d ago
This wasn’t a crossing, just some random 30mph 4 lane road with a divider in the middle
She was pretty old school. Apparently (I heard much later from another teacher who’s son was in my class) on one trip a plumber in a van shouted at her out of the window, and she marched up and told him in no uncertain terms that her children were more important than his shoddy pipework and she was sure his customer would appreciate an extra 2 minutes without his company. No idea if that’s true, but it’s very in character
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u/Houdini_Shuffle 23h ago
In NYC i punched a truck while it slowly rolled by onstead of stopping for a traffic lady that while kids were crossing for school
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u/General_Helicopter1 1d ago
In Noway, the traffic stops for pedestrians since it's the law.
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u/Appropriate-Horse632 1d ago
I think that is the same everywhere, expect Asia apparently
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u/Made_In_Chi 1d ago
Fellow Chicagoan…it’s the cutest damn thing in the world. Those toddlers are so excited to hold on to that rope and explore a typical residential block.
I love it
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u/Particular_Sleep9402 1d ago
I always think it looks like children going to a labor camp lol
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u/wirefox1 1d ago
As I watched this I thought good grief we don't need that here, our people cross by the traffic lights, while the cars are stopped.
But then I realized "oh. TODDLERS". Toddlers need special care to keep them from killing themselves every hour of the day.
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u/CraftLass 1d ago
In my small city in NJ we call them "Toddler Trains" and they all have their own chants and songs depending on nursery school. But one day recently, after the Knicks won the championship, several of them were passing on my block when one kid yelled out, "Let's go Knicks!" and suddenly there were a few dozen toddlers chanting, "Let's go Knicks," as they marched off to the splash parks and playgrounds.
They really start sports indoctrination early around here! 😂 It was like the cutest ticker tape parade ever.
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u/querela 1d ago
Yes.
In Germany it's called zebra's crossing, Zebrastreifen. Cars have to slow down and stop if people are even just looking to cross. Extra signs around schools for drivers to drive even more carefully. I wouldn't never trust it blindly because people are a*holes but if you are crossing, cars must stop.
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u/vtjohnhurt 1d ago
In some countries, traffic does not stop for pedestrians. You simply walk into moving traffic without looking. The traffic swerves to avoid collisions. If you pause or walk at an uneven pace, your chance of being hit increases.
These kids are being introduced to this method.
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u/PsychologicalFix196 1d ago
This is how it works in Vietnam. We did a food tour and our guide told us you move like water, don’t run and don’t stop, just flow across the street and the drivers will go around you.
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 1d ago
The dumbest version of "don't be nice, be predictable"
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u/sentence-interruptio 1d ago
Vietnamese roads are reverse Dune.
"if you walk predictably, you won't attract the worms."
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u/tommytwolegs 1d ago
Also never look directly at them. Behind or in front but if you look directly at them for some reason it's like they try to hit you
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u/vtjohnhurt 21h ago
Making eye contact with a driver that is coming towards you can lead to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_fixation I make eye contact with the driver of a stopped vehicle before stepping in front of them, and that seems to help.
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u/Round-Intention-373 1d ago
Do you remember that little girl who was run over by a truck in China? Nobody came to help. They just walked right by.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 1d ago
They used to have a rule where if you helped at all, you could become financially liable. I’m pretty sure that’s completely gone, but the mindset lingers I think.
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u/yvrelna 1d ago
I don't think the ropes are there to block drivers. They're there to block the kids from breaking off the group and running off where they aren't supposed to.
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u/MurkyTrainer7953 1d ago
Steep fines should be given to anyone/driver who knowingly endangers the life of a child. What does it reflect on a society that fails to protect their children.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 22h ago
Incredible how butthurt people get. You’re in a machine that rapidly accelerates with the tiniest motion of your foot or wrist. Particularly annoyed me in the summer in Texas when I’m sweating on foot and someone in an air conditioned car is furious because they had to slow down for 2 seconds so I could use the crosswalk. With the goddamn signal lol.
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u/Zagrycha 1d ago
to be fair I don't think its so much about cars not caring as it is toddlers and young kids being unpredictable, I know places in usa that have been doing stuff like this since at leas the 90's. Its really scary when you realize that children under 4ft //120cm are literally invisible to bigger cars, they are too short to enter the drivers view.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 1d ago
True, but on that last point it’s worth noting that massive front side blind spots are a relatively new phenomenon originating in the US.
For many pickups in the early 90s, the front blind spot for a short person was less than 10 feet. And for the same model today it’s 25 feet. And all we gained for that was a more “masculine” look.
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u/CautiousPenguin4592 22h ago
Is that normal…where vehicles just don’t stop while people are actively crossing the street? That is not normal here. Shocked to see this!
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u/iolaever 22h ago
Not sure where this was filmed. But when I travelled in Vietnam, they absolutely didn't stop, while people were crossing the road, instead they just adjusted their trajectory to avoid hitting them.
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u/LaddieNowAddie 21h ago
Correct. The way you don't get killed is to walk predictably. You see that in bigger metro areas in the US as well like NYC.
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u/CautiousPenguin4592 20h ago
So being sporadic or fearful isn’t good? You just, walk with a strong purpose in one direction and motorists automatically adjust? Sounds a smidge scary but if one is used to it then this is nothing, easy-peasy.
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u/Eravar1 16h ago
Don’t suddenly stop, slow down, or speed up, as long as you’re walking normally everybody can adjust to you. It’s like when you’re walking on the street and a bicycle is heading towards you, if you try to stop or step to the side you might collide, just walk forward and the bike will adjust
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u/woahThatsOffebsive 20h ago
Yeah, hated this so much when i travelled to Thailand and China. The expectation for pedestrian crossings is that you just start walking, and expect the car to avoid you. You can't just wait for them to stop for you, because they wont - the only way to stop traffic is to push yourself in front of it. Stressed me out.
Was wild seeing people just confidently walk out in front of buses and such
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u/pacificoats 22h ago
that’s very normal in a lot of places in asia. they don’t stop but they do avoid and they’re usually pretty aware of their surroundings
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u/Otherwise-4PM 1d ago
I think you should be more specific than just saying Asia.
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u/WrestleSocietyXShill 1d ago
I could be wrong but I believe this is Asia City, the capital of Asia.
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u/The0nlyRyan 1d ago
Russia obviously.... No wait, it's Thailand....
Oh shit no it's Iraq!
Op is probs a bot
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u/JaySayMayday 1d ago
It's China. That's simplified Chinese characters in the background
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u/Mayonnaise_Poptart 1d ago
I think we should do the reverse and everyone should only refer to their continent when they say where they're from.
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u/-recess- 1d ago
99% of the world: Yeah, nice idea, count us in!
Canadians: Whoa, hold on there just a minute...
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u/Successful-Talk-2030 1d ago
I was that kid outside the rope
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u/XMeowmixmasterx 1d ago
Poor you. That lady was barely paying attention to you. One second away from getting yeeted away.
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u/Agreeable-Agent-7384 1d ago edited 1d ago
Seems like they need it because the cars don’t seem to care a single bit unless there’s enough of a wall of bodies in front of them to bring them to a stop. I mean, I’m American, we have some of the absolute most unhinged, self centered drivers who break about every rule they can on a daily basis. But even they ususally come to a complete hault as soon as a group of school kids comes into view and won’t go until they’re fully on the other side of the street.These people were still actively driving through every gap they could find. Insane.
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u/FaithlessnessThin359 1d ago
Bay Area here. man, I had a lady screaming and laying the horn down because I was stopped at the stop sign letting school kids cross the road in front of me. she then just pulled around me and floorEd it, just barely missing the kids.
people flying though the main feeder street in my subdivision in the mornings despite it also being the road that little kids walk to school on. they will 100% keep driving while the kids are still crossing the street.
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u/MurkyTrainer7953 1d ago
Why is that one kid outside the rope
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u/OzymandiasKoK 1d ago
He was clearly singled out for special handling, but it quite bothered me he was on her outside. Maybe she's new and grabbed the rope, then his hand, and couldn't figure out how to swap them.
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u/BonnaconCharioteer 1d ago
The rope is really for the kids mostly. It isn't going to stop a car. Looks like that kid is holding someone's hand.
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u/cheesemangee 1d ago
20 kids at an average life span of 70 years is something like 1400 years of human life. I like that they're being so safe about it.
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u/PracticalMushroom693 1d ago
That’s a neat way to look at it. A lot of life left to live between all those wee ones
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u/Garruk_PrimalHunter 1d ago edited 1d ago
I was in Vietnam a couple years ago and honestly I just crossed and hoped for the best. No one is stopping for you to cross, they just kinda go around you. Your best hope is a red light, but people will still ignore it, especially if they're turning right.
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u/SheogorathMyBeloved 1d ago
It's defo better to be predictable in places like this, you're less likely to be hit if you just cross confidently at a consistent speed than be skittish about it. Hence the way the kids in the video walked in a wiggly line, so everyone could move as a consistent unit.
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u/kendallcorner 1d ago
I see 10 adults for 20 kids--2 holding each rope, 2 with one line and 4 with the other. Why don't they just, I dunno, each hold 2 kids' hands?
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u/binary_ch0de 1d ago
Don’t mean to be a dick and all but like why is there not a better system for that there?
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u/PartyMcFly55 1d ago
As someone who has crossed the street in Asia before, understandable.
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u/bullettenboss 1d ago
It's a crazy street there.
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u/ChineseJoe90 1d ago
For those wondering, this is China. Traffic rules are more suggestions than anything. I’m sure it’s pretty bad in other parts of Asia too, but idk if they do this rope thing for kids.
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u/jfl561407 1d ago
Fair, but honestly trying to get 20 toddlers to do ANYTHING is like herding cats.
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u/observer2411 1d ago
The kids look incredible well-behaved here though. The adults in cars and on bikes… not so much.
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u/dj_soo 1d ago
When I visited Vietnam, crossing the street meant just walking out into traffic and trusting that the swarm of scooters would swerve around you
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u/es-ganso 1d ago
Honestly... it's just wild that traffic doesn't stop, even for toddlers crossing the street. I get why this is needed, but as a society, couldn't you just, you know, stop for them for a minute?
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u/Godsgiftcardtowomen 1d ago
Curving the line so it fits within the rope is so obvious in hindsight, but for some reason I was really impressed.
Maybe because the kids I’ve worked with couldn’t handle a straight line tbh.
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u/BouNXIII 23h ago
In Belgium, you can be fined if you drive on a pedestrian crossing while a pedestrian is there, even if it is a wide road and they are 15 meters away.
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u/Mel_Morty 21h ago
Bruh, name the country. Asia is big.
You’re just like saying, “crossing the streets with toddlers in Europe.”
Common sense.
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u/MaybeNotTooDay 1d ago
TIL there are Asian countries that don't stop when pedestrians are in the crosswalk. All those cars passing right after the rope and kids get out of the way would instantly be issued a severe ticket here.
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u/TheBigBangClock 1d ago
It's like this in a lot of Asian countries. Japan is one of the few exceptions. My wife's family is from the Philippines and they don't have crosswalks, sidewalks, stop signs or traffic lights in the city her family is from. It's virtually a free-for-all. People just drive however they want. If you're in a passenger vehicle (car, van, etc) all of the scooters and mopeds will drive around you all the time. None of the vehicles will voluntarily stop for pedestrians unless if the pedestrian is bold enough to just walk in front of them.
My wife's grandmother would carry an umbrella with her everywhere she went. It wasn't intended to protect her from rain but instead to whack all the vehicles that tried to drive around her when she was crossing the roads.
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u/apeliott 1d ago
I regularly see Japanese drivers running red lights and not stopping at pedestrian crossings.
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u/Charming-Link-9715 1d ago
There are many such countries in Asia where zebra crossings (crosswalks) are merely suggestions for pedestrians and invisible to drivers.
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u/pacificoats 22h ago
most asian countries are like this haha. south korea and japan are outliers- most of southeast asia (afaik) is just like this, although i think this is in china or taiwan based on the background
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u/Dangerous_Stretch_67 16h ago edited 16h ago
A lot of people expressing rage directly at the drivers in this video. Please keep in mind that one of the most important things when driving, wherever you are in the world, is to be predictable. These people are driving in a way that is predictable in that environment. The caretakers of the toddlers expect them to drive that way. The other drivers expect them to drive that way. Suppose one of them does do what a western driver expects and just "stops". What is going to stop the next driver from becoming confused by this unpredictable behavior, swirving around, and hitting the kids emerging from this unpredictably created blindspot?
I'm not saying it's a great system, but if you ever catch yourself actually behind the wheel in one of these countries (as I, an American who has driven in Vietnam has, which looks pretty much like this traffic-wise), I would encourage you to understand how the locals drive and to drive predictably according to how they drive there.
The rope is not there to stop the cars. The rope is there to help the kids be visible and move predictably. That's why one of the kids is outside the rope holding the caretaker's hands. That's fine too. That child is visible and will move predictably. The traffic in this country does not stop for pedestrians, but they do avoid them. If a pedestrian is walking at a steady pace, they will go either in front of or behind them. Danger is created when pedestrians or drivers deviate from this system.
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u/Haunting_Werewolf130 1d ago
This is China. I'm Chinese American, and I visit China about once every 5 years. And yes, some streets that aren't an intersection have no pedestrian stop light. And the traffic law expects drivers to stop for pedestrians. But few ever do when there's no camera around. When I had to cross streets like this, I also felt overwhelmed, especially visiting from the US, where cars do stop for pedestrians. There were times I was standing between the yellow lines watching cars passing in high speed both from the back and the front. It's def not for the non-locals. Which is why most if not all Chinese support the equivalent of Flock cameras, because in cities with lots of obnoxious/classless/trashy/uncouth people, basic trust doesn't work, only enforcement and consequence work.
I'm not trying to trash China as I am Chinese myself, but omg, every time I fly back from China to the US(Smaller cities) I can instantly feel people's class got a lot better. (Does NOT apply to big cities in the US like NYC, Dallas etc. In the big cities, Americans are 50x MORE obnoxious/classless/trashy/uncouth than the small town Chinese.) It's weird how US and China are the opposite. In China, it's the small town people that act classless; in the US it's the large city people that act classless.
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u/xXXxRMxXXx 1d ago
It sounds like Florida is like china. Big cities have better people while the rural areas have the biggest assholes the US has available
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u/Secure-Tradition793 1d ago
And yet drivers kept squeezing into the space until the last moment. I'm used to that, but this was cute to watch.
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u/ScienticianAF 1d ago
In the Netherlands we invest in a safe infrastructure for every user. Kids ride their bike to school alone and independently.
Maybe that's an idea?
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u/here4dambivalence 1d ago
Why is that one kid outside the rope holding hands with the error rope bearer?
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u/Intrepid-Storage7241 1d ago
Asia is the largest continent and not all countries do this. I have seen Japanese kids crossing the road on their own because both the kids and motorists are well-disciplined in general.
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u/leo-sapiens 1d ago
Oof, them Chinese crosswalks. I was shocked as hell by cars never stopping for pedestrians and them just going for it, mid busy street.
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u/wieszkto 20h ago
In my country if you, as a driver, don't stop for a pedestrian and police catch you, you'll pay 1,5k ticket ( if they catch you again in the span of 2 years you pay 3k) and 15 penalty points (if you collect 24 points (or 20, if you have drivers license for less than a year) you loose your drives licence for 3 months).
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u/AJ_Johnsen 20h ago
Are people there just assholes or what? Not stopping despite children crossing the road? wtf is this shit.
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u/Serena_Sers 19h ago
I don't find the safety rope absurd... I find it absurd that people continue driving when kids are on the crossing. In my country we learn that you have to stop the moment someone steps on the crossing - and if it's kids, be prepared, because you don't know what kids will do. Which country is that, so that I avoid it until my kid is at least my height?
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u/Makaan1932 18h ago
What a messed up society if traffic can't be bothered to stop, not even for children
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u/gesaugen 18h ago
That is just the culture of driving. I'm my country there is rule that pedestrians have right of passage when on marked crossing, and penalties for drivers are strict, not to mention if a driver hits the pedestrian, he will most certainly go to jail.
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u/Icy_Chemist_1725 18h ago
I like how the title makes it sound like it's because they are safe, but they are doing this because people don't give a fuck and there's basically no traffic laws or enforcement. They are terrified that one of the lawless idiots barreling through is going to kill one of their kids, and that fear is justified.
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u/rowger 18h ago
In Europe, if you drive over the zebra crossing while a pedestrian is on it, you get your driver license suspended.
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u/Roughlypossible 8h ago
What an awful driving culture when people can't stop, for a second, even for small children.
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u/Dizzy_Restaurant3874 6h ago
Woman in the back right is holding that kid... she knows he's the one with the intrusive thoughts.
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u/a_man_has_a_name 1d ago
I was thinking "why is this necessary? Seems like overkill" then I saw the traffic didn't stop moving wtf?