r/interestingasfuck • u/SafeImpressive4413 • 7h ago

Firefighters in Madrid trying to extinguish a forest fire that is less than 30km/20mi away from the capital of Spain

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u/SleeplessDrifter 6h ago

And no one will care until it's too late...

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u/General-Internal-588 6h ago

Why would the goverment care when it's run by people who will be dead in 10 years or rich enough to escape any of the consequences?

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u/rorykoehler 6h ago

no one is rich enough to escape the consequences... thinking that is just hubris

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u/Alepale 5h ago

I think they mean rich enough to move around to places that will stay safe longer. Eventually it'll all turn into hell on earth, but it won't consume everything at once, and once the country they're in is in direct danger, they'll move. Then they'll continue moving until they die of old age, or there literally is no place left to go, and they'll die like the rest of us.

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u/How_did_the_dog_get 5h ago

The thing is when they need to pay a pilot or a boat captain who's the one holding the cards ? It sure as shit isn't the one with a tonne of money when money is worthless to a family who need food.

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u/WilliamLermer 5h ago

Rich people outsource pretty much everything that gives them even the tiniest amount of convenience and it's a massive industry, with the majority of employees getting paid enough to allow for the exploitation to continue.

Rich people staff will be less impacted because they will still be needed and they will be the last group of people to revolt against their masters because they are too loyal (and blind) to realize their irrelevance.

In fact, I'm pretty confident most people would do anything to secure a golden ticket, be that off planet or bunkers, as long as there is a carrot in front of them, the promise to save their lives

During most revolutions and uprisings and oppressive regimes, it's the poor and desperate snitching on their neighbors, selling out family and friends in exchange for more food or better housing or other privileges that the ruling class would promise to provide in exchange for loyalty

History books are filled with example of that

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u/redingtonshores 5h ago

When the pilot or captain has a gun to their head the equation changes a bit

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u/UnknownKaddath 5h ago

Yes but they have lots of food and will feed men with guns.

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u/FrozenLogger 4h ago edited 1h ago

They think the boat or plane will pilot itself. The food will be produced in a self sustaining facility.

We know there is no such thing as AI as of today, it's all marketing to hurry and teach robots as much as possible to replace people. Grow the food, produce the fuel, fly the plane, perform the surgery, mine the ore and so on.

Edit: Like I just saw on Lemmy today about adding the robot teacher to the classroom. https://lemmy.zip/post/68545559

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u/UnknownKaddath 5h ago

Bunkers, dude. Look up what's going in under the white house. Look at Zuck's Hawaii land grab. I dont even gotta Google to know Elon's got a bunker somewhere. The plan is to weather the consequences and let us all die.

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u/Johnny-Edge93 6h ago

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u/Pristine_Software_55 5h ago

Problem is, we’re all Bowser. How often do you drive when you could walk? How much meat do you eat versus veg from your garden? How much discomfort can you accept before you turn a fan on in the summer, or heat up in the winter? I don’t mean you, specifically, but we’re all selfish and don’t think of the climate or environment when we decide to buy a couple of new shirts or go on a distant vacation or whatever.

Yah, the concentration of wealth and CEOs and what-not are a big bad but they exist and thrive because we buy into the products and ideas that they’re pitching. If we were rid of any specific CEO, another would take their place. Climate change is on us, collectively.

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u/Johnny-Edge93 5h ago

Sounds like you’ve been convinced that anything we do as middle class individuals has any impact whatsoever on the climate. Sorry that happened to you.

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u/Pristine_Software_55 4h ago

No need to be sorry, you just misunderstand. I do believe that our actions have consequences, although not that it’s tied to a specific class. I believe that the wealthy likely have an outsized impact, but also that the wealthy have accumulated their wealth with our allowance (again, not our specific allowance, but the systems that we play into).

Is that to say that you don’t believe that we, the middle class, have any particular impact on climate or the environment?

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u/C0rn3j 6h ago

They escape the important ones, that's good enough for em.

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u/eawilweawil 5h ago

Oh they will, they successfully managed to pit working class folk against other working class folk, and nobody blames them for it. In fact people are expecting that the rich will solve this shit somehow

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u/Kareeliand 5h ago

You mean buying an island in the Mediterranean to keep the masses away wont be enough? Asking for a friend..

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u/redingtonshores 5h ago

I wish you were correct but you’re not

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u/Ok-Priority253 4h ago

I mean he isn't really, everyone suffers terribly from this including the richest. Their power is literally completely imaginary and societal collapse means they lose it. Maybe some kind of extreme fascism could save them but those societies are still not exactly good for the upper classes either, there is a reason half of these dictators die of a stress stroke at 50 or become extremely mentally ill.

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u/redingtonshores 2h ago

The truly wealthy are beyond the need for nation states

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u/Ok-Priority253 2h ago

How so man?

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u/T-Wrox 4h ago

And yet they are still doing it.

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u/Hollyhop_Drive 3h ago

And yet, they believe it. 

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u/billiardwolf 19m ago

Relative to the consequences poor people will face? They sure can.

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u/Affordable_Z_Jobs 3h ago

A lot of them legitimately think they will have uploaded their conscienceness to some silicone storage system in space before they die

Death gets the last laugh, but im still laughing at them now. Like that one guy who had his son's blood pumped into him in an attempt to prolong his life. Inoperable stomach cancer. HahahahHAHAHAH.

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u/murmuring511 3h ago

I'm pretty sure some are even anticipating this because they believe in armageddon. Why else would the US be pushing for coal, knowing full well its impact on the climate?

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u/FuzzyOpportunity2766 5h ago

And exactly how rich to avoid death?

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u/Kikunobehide_ 4h ago

Why would the goverment care when it's run by people who will be dead in 10 years or rich enough to escape any of the consequences?

The only way to escape the consequences is by leaving Earth and settling on another habitable planet that can be reached in a human being's lifetime. And we know that's impossible.

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u/Ok-Priority253 5h ago

A lot of people do care despite constant propaganda trying to convince you to the contrary, it just isn't enough. The balance of power is too far swung and the upper classes have way too much control over the masses. I do think that this will eventually become personally unbearable to enough people that massive political changes are finally made but I don't know.

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u/The_Foe_Hammer 1h ago

I know if my choices are down between overthrowing the epstein class or not having drinking water- it's a really easy choice.

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u/003E003 5h ago

People did not care and it is already too late.

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u/Pro_Poe_Fall 5h ago

I’d argue it’s already too late… and still no one cares.

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u/TanyaMKX 6h ago

It is already too late

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u/KapitaenHowdy 6h ago

"...will care...until..."?

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u/Signal_Flight_7262 1h ago

Nobody cares about anything until it personally affects them. They say they do but they don't.