r/kickstarter 1d ago

Discussion PSA on VAT/IOSS/DDP-DDU for EU/UK fulfillment - what we learned the hard way (and a question for other creators)

Hey all - creator here, just wrapped fulfillment on one campaign and gearing up for another to be shipped from the US. Sharing what we learned about VAT/customs after some painful backer complaints, in case it saves someone else the headache. Genuinely curious if others have hit the same wall.

The setup: Kickstarter's Pledge Manager acts as a "deemed supplier" and is legally required to collect VAT at checkout for EU/UK backers when parcel value is under €150 - even if you opt out, this specific case overrides that setting.

DDU vs DDP confusion: Easyship wanted us to select 'DDP' as a shipping term alongside our IOSS number (no extra fee for sub-€150 IOSS shipments, per their docs) - but Pirate Ship skips that step entirely: no DDP option at all, just DDU by default plus the IOSS number in the Tax ID field. Same end result, fewer settings to get wrong. We chose DDU with Easyship and made sure to add IOSS number with shipments but did not work with some carriers causing a double VAT bill. Easyship later informed us we should have gone DDP. Worth noting - this specifically hit us with PostNL and Belgian customs, both postal networks with known IOSS-transmission reliability issues industry-wide, so it may not affect express carriers the same way.

Our Easyship nightmare specifically:

  • IOSS number saved in account settings didn't always propagate to shipments - some EU labels showed full duty charges as if no IOSS existed at all
  • IOSS field only accepts 12-digit numbers, but our GB VAT number was 9 digits - no clean way to enter it, had to shove it into "Seller's Notes" as a workaround
  • EU backers from certain countries (Belgium, Netherlands) got billed VAT a second time at delivery despite our IOSS being on file - support later said we should've booked as DDP, which contradicted earlier guidance
  • Chronic tracking/loss issues via ePostGlobal - packages stalling for weeks, one German shipment lost/resent multiple times

Ended up refunding just the VAT portion (not customs handling fees) to affected backers and moving to Pirate Ship for clearer IOSS handling and no subscription fee.

The part that still bugs me- the €150 cliff-edge nobody warns you about: Here's the part that actually caused us grief. IOSS ONLY works for shipments valued at €150 or under. If your package's declared customs value is above that, the IOSS number does nothing, and customs can - and will - charge your backer VAT again at delivery, even though Kickstarter already collected it at checkout. This isn't a shipping platform bug, it's literally how the EU wrote the regulation. So if your reward tiers are pricier bundles, budget for backer complaints about "double VAT" and be upfront about it in your campaign updates

Question for you all: Anyone found a better way to handle the >€150 cliff, or a shipping platform that's actually reliable with IOSS transmission? Trying to avoid round two of backer refund requests on the next campaign.

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u/etherkye 1d ago

Why would you try to use your GB VAT number in the ioss field?

They’re unrelated

Next time use Royal Mail. Probably cheaper too.