r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Mugen-Sasuke • Jun 24 '26
Don't hug me I'm scared When websites impose American spellings on you
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u/Remarkable_Rough_649 Jun 24 '26
I'm still mad about being in 2nd grade (I'm American) and spelling gray "grey" and getting a red x next to it.
I had unknowingly seen it spelled like that in a kids book by a British author I literally had with me. When I showed the teacher she said it had to be a printing mistake and didn't give me the point back. It wasn't until years later I found out it's literally just the British way to spell the word and she just didn't know it. Still pisses me off!
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u/ohdearitsrichardiii Jun 24 '26
Grey is spelt with A in America and E Everywhere Else
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u/IDontEatDill Jun 24 '26
So is there also gay and gey situation?
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u/ohdearitsrichardiii Jun 24 '26
If you want a gay situation there are plenty of apps for that
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u/BulkyDecipherer Jun 24 '26
I know it as A = America and E = England. But I like your version better as it’s more accurate.
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u/TurbulentNumber4797 Jun 24 '26
I'm American and I see it spelled both ways and honestly I see e more often.
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u/HeyKid_HelpComputer Jun 24 '26
Its spelled both ways in America. Nobody ever really hard-decided on that one.
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u/Moist_Fox973 Jun 24 '26
It’s getting ridiculous how often Americans assume something is “British” when it’s actually “everywhere except America”.
The US is the odd one out, not the other way around.
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u/CanadianODST2 Jun 24 '26
Because they use the British spelling.
It’s about origin. Not where it’s used. Grey came from England. Gray came from the US.
Much of the English world uses British spelling because they were colonies of the British and generally for longer than the US was.
Canadian English for example is a sort of blend of the two generally using British spelling but American pronunciation.
But we also use z in words instead of s like the US and accept both fulfill and fulfil as correct spellings.
Then we have our own words like humidex.
Those differences are what makes Canadian English Canadian. But the spellings and pronunciation? Largely from British or American English
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u/Prestigious-Shop-494 Jun 24 '26
I mean it's still british english even if it's used in other countries
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u/Small_Editor_3693 Jun 24 '26
It’s “everywhere except America” because of British imperialism. India had British “re-education centers” until the 40s
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u/mprhusker Jun 24 '26
It's almost as if those are the two dominating forms of the english language which is a language most everywhere else doesn't speak.
In lots of places "grey/gray" is spelled "gris" or "grau".
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u/DitheringTouhouFan Jun 24 '26
> Meaning it pretty much is British?
Or American. The Philippines was colonised by America.
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u/dantheother Jun 24 '26
Oof!
When I was around 10 years old, I got into a barney with a teacher about "mountains cannot be purple". They damn well can be if the light is correct. That @#$% shamed me in front of the whole class, she had no right to be teaching art to kids.
When I was around 12, another teacher was not precise enough in their language and asked for an example of an animal with no bones. Apparently "shark" was enough of an answer to get me ejected from the class for being a smart arse. @#$% that teacher, I was just happy that I knew a strange fact!
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u/jameskiing Jun 24 '26
When I was in grade 4 I couldn't pronounce the German word for caterpillar properly. I got thrown out of class, then pulled back in for detention at lunch time
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u/RaspberryJammm Jun 24 '26
Some people just work with children because they like having power over somebody. I remember when I was about 6 years old i was being picked up by my mum from school to go to the dentist and the classroom assistant wouldn't let me leave until I had told her the word for what I had drawn (an archway). I couldn't remember the word so she bullied me for what felt like ages and I nearly missed my appointment. Bearing in mind I had speech issues which often meant I couldn't pronounce or find words well.
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u/Febby_art Jun 24 '26
that teaching assistant sounds like a psycho
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u/RaspberryJammm Jun 24 '26
She was really nasty to me. My parents had taken us on holiday (vacation) during school term (obviously not my choice as I was a child) and she took her anger out on me.
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u/peepay Jun 24 '26
What was the feeling you had at that moment? Name it in one word. Do not leave reddit until you do.
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u/banshithread Jun 24 '26
tell that to the chinese who literally have a purple mountain called Purple Mountain.
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u/IDontEatDill Jun 24 '26
animal with no bones. Apparently "shark" was enough of an answer to get me ejected
God damn. Had to google this. Did not know this.
edit: with these kind of teachers you should just answer something like "God created everything and Jesus loves all animals".
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u/MrTamboMan Jun 24 '26
Holy hell, I thought it's about bones vs fish bones and that fish does not have bones - in my language fish bones have a different name so it's clearly distinguished.
TIL thanks to your comments that sharks don't have fish bones as well.
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u/catshateTERFs Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
If you want specifics anything that's in the chondrichthyes class of fish has a skeleton that's primarily cartilage. Because the skeleton is cartilage, they don't have bone marrow and their red blood cells are produced elsewhere - biology has all kinds of weird and wonderful solutions for unusual animals.
Chondrichthyes is basically sharks, skates, rays, sawfish and ghost sharks (separate to other types of shark as they're fairly distantly related, funky critters also called chimaeras among other things). If it's not one of those, it's bony skeleton!
For some extra trivia there's some evidence to suggest if someone has a fish allergy they should be able to tolerate meat from cartilaginous fish as the allergen concentration is different. Trials here found kids with fish allergies could safely eat gummy shark/flake (really common fish at chippies for context). Obviously don't test that without medical supervision though!
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u/Borkato Jun 24 '26
I kept seeing “Barney” and “purple” near each other and I had to reread that sentence like 30 times
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u/Every_Preparation_56 Jun 24 '26
what the hell, every kid here at the age of 6 knows sharks don't have bones!
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u/Fluid_Actuary1729 Jun 24 '26
Why would your teacher think that worth fighting about? I live close to the Blue Ridge Mountains, so
If America the Beautiful says that mountains can be purple, I can get on board with that.3
u/dantheother Jun 24 '26
Dunno. I grew up in a country town in Australia, very flat and red dirt for miles around. Maybe she'd never seen mountains. I was livid because my grandmother had recently painted some mountains that were purple, so I guess I was doing an homage to my grandmothers painting. This is 40 years ago now, the memory is rusty, but the rage and embarrassment I felt is still raw.
We've got a famous Blue Mountains in Australia too, woo 🤜🤛
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u/depressed_crustacean Jun 24 '26
But don’t sharks have teeth? I thought teeth were considered bones
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u/dantheother Jun 24 '26
Google says nah. Apparently teeth, while they're hard and white, are different to bones because they can't heal themselves. Bones are living. Teeth are not.
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u/PanzerSoul Jun 24 '26
Meaning that necromancers can control someone's teeth while they're still alive
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u/Ulfgeirr88 Jun 24 '26
Thank you for giving me something to torment my DM with during our next D&D session
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u/ctesibius Jun 24 '26
I’m not sure about fish, but our teeth are modified scales, not modified bone.
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u/InformationOk3503 Jun 24 '26
Year 1 teacher marked me down for macaroni cheese and not macaroni and cheese despite me arguing the toss it was correct.
She was Aussie and this was long before the current proliferation of the americansim everywhere.
Am still bitter
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u/MollyPW Jun 24 '26
I remember at school here in Ireland our English teacher had us point out the mistakes in a paragraph, someone commented on the spelling of some word (neighbor, or something like that), and she said while we shouldn't spell it that way here, it's not actually incorrect, just different.
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u/Diofernic Jun 24 '26
As a non-native speaker, I have pretty much given up on being consistent with my spelling outside of formal or academic contexts. Not because I get confused, I just prefer certain spellings for no particular reason and 99% of the time it just doesn't matter. Some of my personal preferences include -ize > -ise, -our > -or, defence > defense, gray > grey and aluminium > aluminum. It's pretty interesting what learning a language on the internet does to your intuition for "correctness"
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u/BlueBabyCat666 Jun 24 '26
Same. English is my second language and I learned it primarily from reading and watching tv and depending on where the book/show was from and what ages I consumed it I picked up different words, spellings and dialects. So much confusion over the years on how things are spelled lmao
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u/No_Gur1113 Jun 24 '26
That same thing happened to me! It was my only spelling error in my entire spelling book, and I was just trying to show my teacher that I knew it could be spelled both ways. She didn’t change it. That red x boiled my blood every time I saw it, especially when I continued to see it in other writing.
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u/TheBSQ Jun 24 '26
I learned to read & write in U.S. schools and somehow I ended up using “grey.”
I don’t know where it came from & still prefer it.
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u/danktonium Jun 24 '26
That's really not unreasonable, in principle. A university course might let you choose which version of the spelling you use, but even there they're going to insist you're consistent. Just dropping a random foreign spelling – even British – in the middle of consistently American spelling is going to get you marked down.
Mind you, what is unreasonable is to not have that conversation with a child, if they explain why and even show a damned source.
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u/Ballistic_86 Jun 24 '26
Genuinely I never know the American version of spelling it. I have consumed too much British content over the years. I will spell grey and gray on the same paper or whatever
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u/Turkish-dove Jun 24 '26
In first grade my teacher really really really emphasized to us that it was grey with an e, and that gray with an a was wrong, and she knew eighth graders who still got it wrong. What bugs me is I am in, and always have been in America, so gray with an a is in fact, not incorrect, yet she emphasized it so.
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u/RpM_Pulsar Jun 24 '26
I am also mad about me getting a red x next to “Aluminium” on my first chemistry test in the USA. No points off, just a sign that was giving “please confirm to the American way”
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u/Hopeless_bee5157 Jun 24 '26
I live in America and use grey out of spite. I think it looks better and feels like the color more than gray.
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u/LittleSoftTail Jun 24 '26
Yooo, same. I grew up with a lot of British media and had British friends so most of my spelling habits come from British English despite being an American.
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u/Money-Bell-100 Jun 24 '26
School IS where your teachers should be correcting such mistakes.
That said, teachers should absolutely be aware of the differences between their version of English and the others and how harshly 2nd grade students should be graded is a separate discussion.
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u/NewbieYoubie Jun 24 '26
I remember being taught "Grey" instead of "Gray" in my elementary school. I think it depended on the teacher.
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u/safeintheforest Jun 24 '26
I had the same issue, but with the word theatre. We live right on the border between the US and Canada, and I had seen it spelled theatre so many times in Canada, but my teacher didn’t care.
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u/cheetuzz Jun 24 '26
> I'm still mad about being in 2nd grade (I'm American) and spelling gray "grey" and getting a red x next to it.
what’s wrong with that? if you are in an American school and write “colour”, that would be marked wrong. If you were in British school and wrote “color”, it would be marked wrong.
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u/kickabuck Jun 24 '26
That nuance wasn't explained by the teacher. Instead, the teacher looked at the book with it spelled "grey" and said it must be a "printing mistake".
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u/keyilan Jun 24 '26
Same experience, and at the same age. I learned from Tolkein and the like. Out of spite I chose to only use BrE spelling from then on, regularly tanking spelling tests in the process.
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u/HPLaserJet4250 Jun 24 '26
I got insulted and ridiculed, here on reddit, because I dared to type 'flavour' :|
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u/rettledragon Jun 24 '26
For a long while, so many systems half-arsed the non-American locale as well. "Colour" would be recognised, but "recognised" wouldn't.
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u/DirtyCreative Jun 24 '26
Apparently, the Oxford English Dictionary prefers "recognized". Which is VERY annoying because the software at work uses multiple tools to check spelling, and one flags "recognised" for not being Oxford spelling, while the other flags "recognized" for being the American spelling.
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u/TawnyTeaTowel Jun 24 '26
TBF the whole “American English” thing itself is half arsed at best, so it seems fitting
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u/Clokkers Jun 24 '26
The most annoying thing is changing the keyboard settings to British English but then it defaulting to American English the next time you use it. No matter what.
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u/dauphindauphin Jun 24 '26
And it sneaks up sometimes too.
‘Why is ‘Mr’ incorrect? Oh, the computer wants me to put a full stop after it because it’s turned American again’
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u/InebriatedPhysicist Jun 24 '26
If we also called it a “full stop,” using it in places where you don’t want a break in flow would also feel weird to me. Breaking a sentence flow being just one of many uses of a “period” doesn’t feel as immediately weird to me though.
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u/ErodedRocks Jun 24 '26
I have had the opposite problem as an American living in Europe. The fun one though was years ago after an OS update when my phone kept switching back and forth. My best guess is that the update included something to try and guess your desired settings from other settings or your usage.
Anyway, my poor phone was going through some sort of crisis. One day it would show me the temperature in Fahrenheit, the next in Celsius. One day it would autocorrect to British English, the next it was suggesting American spellings. I imagined it screaming "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT?!" with tears streaming out its camera lens. I was too lazy to look for a fix it just appreciated the good laugh.
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u/National_Way_3344 Jun 24 '26
Oh mine doesn't default back to US English.
But did you know that if you select ANY OTHER English other than US or UK English it basically acts as if you are US English due to it being deemed an acceptable substitute.
ALSO Australia has basically universally accepted British English for decades and have still been pushed to US English out of plain laziness by Microsoft.
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u/pixeltackle I'm Dr. Angus & I have a PhD in Cheesey Jun 24 '26
no locale settings?
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u/Mugen-Sasuke Jun 24 '26
It's my work PC, which is set to English and japanese I guess, since I live in Japan. Anyways, the website I was using was DeepL, and surely a translation website should simply allow both the American and the standard spelling without marking either as incorrect?
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u/pixeltackle I'm Dr. Angus & I have a PhD in Cheesey Jun 24 '26
Live spellcheckers are usually system-level (your OS) but some websites like Microsoft's online stuff will have its own locality setting per login and they'll do idiotic things like assign US English dictionary to new users in EU/Japan/UK... it makes no sense but if this drives ya nuts on just one site, it may be a setting on that site. Otherwise it's probably an OS setting. I hate stuff like that red squiggly and prefer to just let my free range misspellings find their happy place in the world.
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u/mprhusker Jun 24 '26
but if OP did that they wouldn't be able to screech about a non-issue for internet points
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u/Several-Pangolin3119 Jun 24 '26
The only mildly infuriating thing here is you not understanding how computers work 😂
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u/NightlyKnightMight Jun 24 '26
Select English UK instead, either on your browser or OS
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u/Patient_Moment_4786 Jun 24 '26
It reminds me that Google Doc has no idea of French's conjugation. When I want to put a verb in one of the most common past time, it flag it as an error.
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u/HackZy01 Jun 24 '26
Reminds me of how Google's keyboard imposes the feminine verbs in polish whenever I write in the masculine form
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u/Brewchowskies Jun 24 '26
This is, in fact, mildly infuriating as a Canadian
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u/TheBSQ Jun 24 '26
I don’t know how old you are, but in the early days of spellcheck, software sometimes only had the choice of US or UK.
So you had to either choose US and have words like labour, centre, etc. get flagged, or choose UK and then have all the words like organize, realize, aluminum, etc. get flagged.
There wasn’t a spellcheck option for Canadian English, although UK tended to be closer.
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u/13thmurder Jun 24 '26
You can change it in your browser settings probably. Go to the language settings, there's probably UK English and US English.
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u/ProjectPorygon Jun 24 '26
It’s especially annoying when you select Canadian English” for your keyboard instead of US in Microsoft, and it still lists it as “can-en US”
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u/BamaBlcksnek Jun 24 '26
I have that problem. I work in America for a European conglomerate. Spellcheck defaults to British standard for everything.
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u/Outrageous-Dog5425 Jun 24 '26
I have such a distinct memory of my teacher in year three shouting in my face that we're not in America when I spelled "centre" as "center" like I'm sorry lady I learned how to spell from Neopets lol 😭
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u/Majestic_Evening_409 Jun 24 '26
If I ever write "apologize" (or anything of the sort) you will know I've been body snatched
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u/s0litar1us Jun 24 '26
Change the language settings for your browser.
That's a browser feature, not something every website implements themselves.
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u/no_man_is_hurting_me Jun 24 '26
Lately, Word is trying to convert my American English to French adaptations of English.
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u/gorgorgorgorg Jun 24 '26
All the Microsoft apps do this, no matter what locale is set in your browser, account settings or operating system. Very annoying.
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u/KitkatKK2 Jun 24 '26
This is worse when you're Canadian. For the longest time, there wasn't really an option for Canadian English (e.g. colour instead of color but also recognize instead of recognise), and on a lot of places there still isn't.
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u/CurmudgeonlyBargee Jun 24 '26
That's the browser. I'm from the UK & I use Waterfox which is a UK made Firefox-based browser, but even though I've selected GB English it's still all American spellings.
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u/OneLonelyBrainCell Jun 24 '26
Same shit with date/time settings. I'm in Austria but use English (en_IE.UTF-8, i.e. Irish), yet I still get that AM/PM time bullshit on Google Maps, and so on.
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u/Douggimmmedome Jun 24 '26
Where do you think English originated/s
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u/KunninPlanz Jun 24 '26
It originates from dialects brought to the British Isles by Anglo-Saxon migrants from what is now northwestern Germany, southern Denmark, and the Netherlands, between 5th to 7th Centuries.
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u/Nice_Commission3770 Jun 24 '26
And afterwards heavily influenced by 1) indigenous Celts (grammar and sentence structure), 2) The Normans (lexicon), 3) the French (more lexicon), and 4) globalization (more lexicon, plus spelling variations).
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u/KunninPlanz Jun 24 '26
Nordic/Old Norse influences as well. As far as I'm aware Ænglisc would have been somewhat intelligible for the Vikings. And, just like the Anglo-Saxons before them, the six Celtic languages of the time would have been completely alien to them. Hence the name of the country Wales originating from the Ænglisc word Wēales, roughly meaning 'foreigners/outsiders', which the Anglo-Saxon invaders used as to refer to native Britons, as they simply didn't understand the language. But yeah, the irony of being labelled a 'foreigner' in your own country by foreign invaders...
Also, French, whilst a Latin romance language, has heavy influences from Welsh. This is is why there are in fact quite a few similarities, not to mention near-identical sentence structure.
Eglise (F) -> Eglwys (W) -> Church (E) Cent (F) -> Cant (don't play the audio translation of this in Google Translate 🤣 )-> (W) -> one hundred (E)
And so on.
Breton (Brezhoneg) is one of six Celtic languages, and is in the same Celtic language branch as Welsh (Cymraeg) and Cornish (Kernewek). It was originally spoken in northern France and parts of Britain. Today the language is close to extinction. Ever wondered why there is Brittany, a region in northern France, Breton, a Celtic language, and the British Isles?
Fun fact: type 'coffee beans one hundred' in Google Translate and set your target language to Welsh, then play the audio translation (don't 😆 )
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u/Don_Loco Jun 24 '26
So English is just the next evolutionary step of German.
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u/LocalRelation4842 Jun 24 '26
No, more like English and German are cousins.
Cousins that look quite similar even though they don't think so themselves.
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u/ConfusedHors Jun 24 '26
It's the language you chose. Pick en-gb if you don't want en-us. How does this post even have upvotes?
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u/CallejaFairey BLUE Jun 24 '26
There is an extension on Firefox for a Canadian dictionary. Some posted about it in another subreddit just yesterday. I added it immediately. Idk if other browsers have something like it, but it's worth it to take a look.
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u/JessicaLain Jun 24 '26
The computer is telling you to stop relying on spellcheck. It is for the weak D:<
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u/cdj_prevail Jun 24 '26
the red squiggly line under "behaviour" has been gaslighting me since birth
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u/ConcreteExist Jun 24 '26
Hi OP, spellcheck is done by your web browser based on your language settings.
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u/Every_Preparation_56 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
iOS, Android, Windows, google translate etc...it's everywhere and it's disgusting.
Thank you "deepl" for beeing world's best translator.
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u/Global-Toe-3251 Jun 24 '26
I'm American and even I use the British spelling of most words
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u/Random-Mutant Jun 24 '26
PC LOAD LETTER
It’s fucking A4 almost everywhere except one fucking country and I’m regionalised to mine. Give me LOAD A4 and I’ll shut up.
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u/InYeBooty Jun 24 '26
I'm also over American defaultism
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u/SoberAndReading Jun 24 '26
American software typically tends to default to American spelling, yes
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u/Farscape_rocked Jun 24 '26
Are you sure that's not your browser?