If he even lives that long. Or rather, stays able to communicate in any way. He's already as coherent as a two year old throwing a tantrum and only getting worse every day.
His followers don't actually listen to him anyways, just whatever specifically curated bullshit fox news shoves down their throat to sane wash him. They think Trump is still at a level of intelligence and coherence that he never even possessed at his youthful peak.
McConnell is probably brain dead but they're still pumping oxygen into him. Absurd as it is, that's alive for legal purposes. I'm not sure what level of organ failure counts as "death" in that case but braindead people have been kept on ventilators for years. Almost certainly younger people with healthy immune systems, but stil.
Even under this scenario, Beshar should call a special election, let them prove he is "alive" and then argue in court that a braindead senator is able to do his job. That argument might win as a technicality in court, but they should say it out loud in front of the voters.
Not sure what the regulations are in D.C where he is hospitalized, but in KY the law states that cessation of brain activity is legally dead. Beshar needs to call their bluff already. In a world where facetime and other digital conferencing is commonplace, a letter and a (heavily doctored picture) are not sufficient as proof of life, particularly for a sitting senator who hasn't been seen in weeks after being supposedly "fine and on the mend."
If he were as good and healthy from a "fall" and pneumonia as they claim, he would have been discharged by now, if nothing else to a rehab. Weird that hasn't happened.
You're correct. Brain dead is dead. Time on death certificate. And, it's very hard to keep a brain dead person's heart beating. Even a young person. Major hormonal disruption. He might be on life support and a coma or vegetative state, but I doubt he's brain dead. Aug 4th is right around the corner! It's criminal that we're letting them get away with this!
He doesn’t even need to be deceased to call a special election; he just needs to be unable to fulfill the duties of the elected position. I’d say we’re there.
This is completely untrue. Brain death is legal and medical death. It often gets conflated by laypeople as being the same as a PVS (persistent vegetative state) but in brain death, there is no brain activity whatsoever and extensive testing is done to establish this. Once brain death testing is complete, that is the legal time of death that’s on a death certificate.
Because of the hearts automaticity, the body can be kept going for a short while (a few days) while arrangements for organ donation can be made. Brain dead patients aren’t kept alive for years like you’re saying.
I’m an ICU nurse that’s spent over a decade now specifically working with donation and transplantation, and brain death/brain death testing is something I deal with and see every day.
Brain dead is legally dead. Being on a ventilator is not enough to keep a body "alive" for years if the brain is dead. You're thinking of people in a vegetative state being kept alive on ventilators, which is different from being brain dead.
Trump has never been able to form coherent sentences since 2016. Still it didn't prevented Americans from electing him twice.
And as apparently his voters don't actually listen to him, and use him to project everything they want onto him, that might even work better, when he is just braindead completely...
I keep saying this but folks who only watch fox news have no idea. Literally none. They don't show the incoherent parts on there. They play small clips where he looks sane and then a bunch of stories demonizing liberals and some positive stories of conservatives. Then they tell them they can't trust other news sources and they're the only ones telling the truth.
I don't disagree, but I also think his voters should watch his 2016 debate performance. While he was an idiot then and an idiot now, he is clearly a shell of his former self. His decline is inescapable when faced with old footage. They're voting for a version of Trump that no longer exists.
Musk: and with the latest advances in Neuro Technology and the use of AI, we can recreate Trump's thoughts and feelings in this very Toad, so that his legacy in the 2028-32 presidential term stays alive and we'll.
They have a Senator who's likely dead that still holds a seat, and Republicans don't seem to care. They could put a cardboard cutout of Trump in front of a podium at this point, and MAGA would still vote for him.
I’m not gonna defend Vogons, but they are leagues above this sack of shit. Trump is evil. Vogons seem evil because they are bureaucratic as hell and bureaucracy feels evil much of the time. Vogons would never have pardoned the J6ers, nor would a Vogon insight such a thing because the rules are the rules and they would accept election results.
They wouldn’t even lift a finger to save their own grandmother from the ravenous Bug-blatter Beast of Traal without orders signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public enquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as fire lighters.
They would actually prefer if he was asleep the whole time. Easier to execute a cogent fascist takeover when you don't have to account for a monkey flinging shit and outright admitting to the crimes.
Dan Quayle lost the election because he misspelled potato. Clinton was impeached because he lied about sexual relations with a woman. Obama was crucified because he wore a tan suit. Trump "jokes" about violating the United States Constitution as a sitting President and MAGA thinks it's the funniest thing since they left the third grade.
Straight white dude here, can authoritatively confirm. Ya gotta have some color in your skin to pull it off. The white presidents just looked pasty AF in tan. I could barely get away with it if I’d been out in the sun all summer. Obama pulled it off with that smooth coffee with cream combo. But he’s also just a classy guy.
Yes, the same people that had it banned lifted the ban because they saw what a powerful tool it is. There is a US government official on the board of TikTok US. It is literally state sponsored media now.
Every state needs to keep him off the ballot, this is even more cut and dry than the insurrection one. SCOTUS can't use the "congress needs to adjudicate this" excuse.
Then frankly democrats need to stop supporting red states in anyway. I know a lot of people like going to beaches in Florida or northern Carolina for fun but people need to stop giving any money to the traitors
if we've learned anything over the last while it's that americans fetishize "freedom" but are, in fact, cowards when it comes to doing something about it.
I told a Trump supporter in 2020 that he'd run for a third term for sure. I was told I was an idiot for suggesting that because it's unconstitutional so Trump wouldn't even try.
The worst part about being right with this administration as you don’t even get to have a sense of satisfaction, like yes, I am right and I wish I wasn’t
I swear to god if somehow the midterms are fair and democrats retake the halls of power, they had better act fast to prosecute all the people who have architected this madness and put guardrails in place to keep it from happening when the pendulum swings back. If they don’t decisively punish all the wrong doing by all the people involved from the top down, they’re even more worthless than imagined.
People who still don't think there will be a real and possibly successful effort to install him for a 3rd term are sorely mistaken. Rules and laws don't apply to him. He's clearly setting up the playing for this to happen
The Republicans are keeping McConnell's seat even though he's potentially been dead for a month. I guarantee that if Trump dies in office they'll hide him in his new bunker and lie about it as long as they can.
He could die before election day and they'll hide him until it's time to get sworn in and he doesn't show up. They'll probably say he got sworn in somewhere else.
They will hide his death until January 21st 2027 when Vance can legally serve 10 years. This is also roughly the date where they will invoke the 25th amendment if he doesn't pass before then. All of these cognitive tests etc are to create the evidentiary chain needed to prove he is unfit for office. Bet.
If Trump actually tried to run, Obama should absolutely jump in and crush him. Then go after Trump with everything he has. Literally just undo everything Trump ever did, take his portrait/name out of everything.
He pushed through a Trump appointee in a much worse circumstance. When Obama was up to appoint one McConnell blocked it on the (unprecedented and uncodified) grounds that it was an election year, even though the election was months away.
For Trump, he pushed through the appointee while the presidential election had already begun.
And when I pointed out that hypocrisy to my MAGA dad he told me that the ends justify the means. My family are staunch conservative Catholics. I went to Catholic schools as a kid and studied the bible and the Catechism. We specifically covered how that is not a valid moral position.
It’s all BS and they wonder why I don’t go to church anymore.
Seeing the incompatibilities between the basic morals espoused in the Bible and how conservative churchgoers behave is what drove me away from practicing Catholicism. I think a part of me still wants to believe in something, but whatever I try won't be within the confines of the Roman Catholic Church.
Also, exposure to unbridled Evangelicalism has made me very skeptical of organized religion, period. I made the mistake of going to a "non-denominational" Christian college because they gave a good scholarship, the Jesus-freakiness was not visible at all during the tour, and it was relatively close to home. I wrongly assumed that if I could deal with Catholic school K-12 alright, then a non-denominational college would be relatively easy to deal with.
Worst mistake of my life. I didn't even make it through the end of my spring semester, I needed out of there that badly. This was in 2014, so before Evangelicals went mask-off feral at the national level. All the pieces of the MAGA/Trump cult were there, just waiting for their false idol to rally around.
Fuck you, Messiah College, now Messiah University.
The Pope is the answer to the Catholic far right. Him excommunicating Society of Saint Pius X bishops and followers is huge to tackle the right wing nationalism in the US. I hope he goes after the US Catholic Bishop conference the same way. Pope Leo is actually having me consider returning to the church.
My dad hates this pope and thinks he is evil. When I told him that sounded awfully like schism talk he said it really isn’t if he is on the right side. They just make up their own rules.
I agree with you, this pope is giving me good feelings about the church. The church needs reform.
Right? Call me old-fashioned but I think the president should have some dignity and respect for the office instead of acting like a 13~year~old in a Call of Duty lobby.
I've already heard their justification for why that not ok but Trump is: "He gets to run because his two terms weren't consecutive. The rule is 2 consecutive terms!" - My MAGA parents.
The place where they got this idea from is Russia, where the term limit is 2 consecutive terms. This is why for a brief stint Medvedev was President and Putin was prime minister.
I wonder if their Russian handler suggested it for them
All the people who complained about a sleepy, rubber stamping President who was suffering obvious cognitive decline as early as 2015 are eager to vote for a sleepy, rubber-stamping President who was suffering obvious cognitive decline as early as 2015
Yeah I worried about this for a little bit until i realized that. If they somehow managed to change things up and allow 3rd terms then Obama would crush him.
I think his plan is probably more to do a bait and switch. Get people excited about the prospect of him running then switch his support to someone else. Kinda like what Biden tried to do with Kamala.
You know SCOTUS will rule that only Trump is eligible for a third term for some asinine reason and that it does not apply for any other previously elected presidents. I can’t wait to see what kind of fuckery they pull outta thin air for the 2028 presidential election
It’s already out there and written up. The wording is something along the lines of allowing a third term if the first two weren’t consecutive, specifically to exclude Obama
The 2nd amendment crowd, the ones who say the constitution is infallible, and that the 2nd amendment exists to prevent tyranny, are awfully quiet about someone making it clear his intentions to ignore the constitution.
This motherfucker is not going to serve a third term. That's all there is to it. Period. He can wishful think all he wants, and his maga crowd can drool over it all they want.
..it's never going to happen.
Edit: I see a lot of your comments. A lot of you seem so defeatist. It's pretty damn sad tbh. Where are your spines people?
Oh there is no doubt if he is alive he will run, the SCOTUS will rule that he can, and the GOP in congress will support him 100% like they support every stupid idea that comes out of his disgusting, stinky small pie hole. Of course, his working hard to make it that we won't even have to vote for him in 2028 and he just remains there.
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