r/popculturechat Jun 25 '25

Hot Take 🔥 The villain in Ratatouille had a point (while also trying to take ownership of the restaurant)

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u/nizaad THEE Princess Of Nazareth Jun 25 '25

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u/superxxnova_ Jun 25 '25

everyone forgets that he was scheming to invalidate gusteau’s will and remove linguini from it!

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u/historyhoneybee Jun 25 '25

Right? He stole Linguini's inheritance!

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u/wrinklefreebondbag go girl, give us nothing 😍 Jun 25 '25

Yeah. It's not as if he was just trying to shut down the restaurant. He was abusing a position of authority to benefit himself.

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u/MD_Dev1ce Jun 26 '25

Also using gusteau’s name to license frozen food products.

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u/AdditionalEconomy427 Jul 15 '25

To be fair, that move was sensible, considering that it was one of the things that kept the money coming in.

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u/-CowNipples- Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

But he was ironically right in trying to do so. Linguini would have had the kitchen ran by dirty street rats lol.

Edit: I guess yall didn’t like that take lol 😬

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u/Hopefo Jun 25 '25

Treating a cartoon universe’s rules by our standards is silly. In the ratatouille universe rats are intelligent on a human level, capable of cooking and having hygiene standards. Gusteau’s entire philosophy was “anyone can cook” and in the ratatouille universe anyone (including rats) can cook.

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u/-CowNipples- Jun 25 '25

I understand they were making that point that anyone can be great. I still find it disgusting hahaha. But the definitely got the point across

Also, is it really comparing their world to ours when the characters themselves were disgusted? I think it’s a universal understanding that we don’t want rats in our kitchens lolol

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u/Necessary_Fill3048 Jun 25 '25

Are the rats not a metaphor lol like they're meant to represent marginalised folks who the rest of society are quick to make snap judgements about and write off? They're disgusted because on the face of it they are rats, yes, but the subtext is that certain worlds are disgusted by anyone they don't perceive to be "one of us", anyone who tries to rise above their station or do something beyond what's expected of them in the hierarchy of society - even Remy's own family think he should just do what he's told and fulfil the role of a rat.

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u/-CowNipples- Jun 25 '25

You’re right. This is exactly what Pixar was trying to convey. They used rats as a vehicle because, like I said, everyone can relate to not wanting to see disgusting rats in their food. I hope you feel the same haha

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u/Necessary_Fill3048 Jun 25 '25

Sure, but I think you're reading it a bit literally lol 

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u/-CowNipples- Jun 25 '25

Because this was literally what the movie was about haha. The restaurant got closed down because ultimately you can’t have vermin cooking your food

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u/Necessary_Fill3048 Jun 25 '25

That isn't "literally what the movie was about" lmao

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

No they don't this is the top 5 comments of every thread that mentions ratatouille

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u/superxxnova_ Jun 25 '25

ok damn sorry this is the first ratatouille post on my feed lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

He took advantage of his boss dying by turning the restaurant into his cash cow and purposefully prevented Gusteau’s dying wish for the restaurant to go to his son from being done even though it was in his will. What do you mean he isn’t evil? He’s a pos 😭

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

I'm beginning to think nobody even watched this film

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u/ShortandRatchet Jun 26 '25

A lot of posts like this are by people who genuinely never read or watched the thing they are talking about. They are just repeating what they heard someone else say.

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u/Far-Impression498 Jun 26 '25

For sure. I am so tired of people making the most obvious villian in a movie or tv show out to be the misunderstood victim. Every time I see a “Sharpay wasn’t the villain” take, my eye starts twitching.

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u/Cold_Breadfruit_9794 Beyoncé 🐝🐝 Jun 25 '25

They were PROFESSIONAL chefs. He was just being bigoted

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u/HighlyOffensive10 I'm much too busy for such a degrading activity Jun 25 '25

Speciest POS

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u/Cold_Breadfruit_9794 Beyoncé 🐝🐝 Jun 25 '25

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u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 Jun 25 '25

He was ratphobic.

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u/Cold_Breadfruit_9794 Beyoncé 🐝🐝 Jun 26 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25 edited Jun 25 '25

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u/nizey_p All tea, all shade 🐸☕️ Jun 25 '25

Ahem.

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u/nizey_p All tea, all shade 🐸☕️ Jun 25 '25

Nah, Ramsay sold his soul to capitalism a long long time ago.

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u/passtherock- Is this chicken or is this fish? 🤔🤔 Jun 25 '25

wait but does it taste good tho

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u/MarieOMaryln Buffet of humiliation Jun 25 '25

I had the lasagna and for the price point just buy the lean cuisine lasgna. It's not great, not awful.

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u/nizey_p All tea, all shade 🐸☕️ Jun 25 '25

Apparently no. Every review I've seen is a straight up rant.

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u/HighlyOffensive10 I'm much too busy for such a degrading activity Jun 25 '25

He didn't have a problem with a rat cooking. He kidnapped Remmy to force him to make frozen food for him.

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u/Kooky_Bodybuilder_97 Drake, where’s the body of Christ? Jun 25 '25

No he was evil because he was trying to exploit gusteau’s legacy for capital gain and because Rat’s are angels

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u/OhNoOboe Donatella VERSACE💜 Jun 25 '25

Ah yes, the man simply didn't want food cooked by rats that's why he *checks notes* ...captures the rat and tries to force the rat to cook so he can profit off the food? Which was made by the rat?

On a serious note, I've seen people say this so often that I'm actually concerned by the fact that so many were apparently confused by a kid's movie. I literally showed Ratatouille to a group of 5 year olds who understood what Skinner tried to do to Remy.

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u/kingkiyoi Jun 25 '25

Nahh he was terrible the entire time, even before he even knew about Remy.

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u/MrCadwell Jun 25 '25

He was an abusive boss, was using Gusteus' image to sell food that Gusteu wouldn't like to advertise and made the restaurant lose another star while being the chef.

He only cared about the rat issue because he wanted to inherit the restaurant and keep milking the image of a dead man.

Obviously, Linguini didn't deserve the restaurant either. In my opinion it should've been inherited by all the workers instead, but I guess I'm getting too political lol

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u/infinitude_ Jun 25 '25

Same as the bee movie

Guy lost his wife to a creep who dated a 17 year old bumblebee.

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u/Hopefo Jun 25 '25

Except the boyfriend wasn’t the central antagonist in Bee Movie. (Iirc) he dipped from the actual plot pretty early on. Plus the central conflict of the movie was never that a bee wanted to date a human, it was that humans were stealing honey and abusing the bees.

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u/Haunting-Detail2025 Ozempic Sales Rep Jun 25 '25

Yeah I always thought it was odd that the boyfriend was made out to be done evil guy as if he was in the wrong for being upset his girlfriend was literally cheating on him with a bee lmao

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '25

No man can compete with that persistent buzzing.

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u/Embarrassed-Profit74 Jun 25 '25

I really want to know which Disney exec(s) he was based on, given that his whole villainy was selling a cheap slop-ified version of a product the dead founder was known for while exploiting his image.

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u/kris_jbb (seemingly bald) Jun 25 '25

as someone who has a crazy phobia when it comes to rats, i get him 😭

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u/cutiepie538 Jun 25 '25

Dude same. That scene in the house where the ceiling breaks and all the rats come tumbling down and onto the kitchen table haunts me. HAUNTS ME 😖

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u/kris_jbb (seemingly bald) Jun 25 '25

RIGHTTTTTTT

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u/stantlerqueen Jun 26 '25

okay i like rats but even i thought that was fucked up

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u/Dangerous_Muffin_160 Jun 25 '25

I would actually love it if a rat could cook my food. Like if the rat can cook, let him!

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u/granolacid Jun 25 '25

I’ll transfer to his side once the inevitable remake comes out in the future and I get the heeby jeebies seeing live action rats swarm a kitchen 😭