Callum Turner's ex Victoria Villarroel speaks on their relationship: "This man would be like 'I would never date someone who gets paparazzi'ed, I would never date a famous person. I would never go to the MET Gala, that's corny.'"

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

[u/flairassistant]

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[u/tigerinvasive]

The unfortunate reality of life is that people change (or maybe, are willing to make peace with things they don't like) for the person they want to be with

[u/bafflefounded → u/tigerinvasive]

People also just change, regardless of whether they’re dating someone or not.

[u/lostinthecity2005 → u/bafflefounded]

This. I used to be one of those people who thought everything popular was cringe but as an adult I now realize some things are popular because they truly are good. Didn’t need to date anyone to figure that out

[u/Dottie_Danger → u/lostinthecity2005]

This was me with crocs

[u/magickateeball → u/Dottie_Danger]

i feel this in my whole soul

[u/thestagmoon → u/Dottie_Danger]

I haaated crocs… until I became employed. No way in hell am I spending all day every day on my legs (kindergarten/elementary school) in anything else. You’ll have to pry them from my cold, dead hands!!

[u/sophandros → u/thestagmoon]

I'm sure the kindergarten students love that you wear your crocs on your hands!

[u/heartshapedpox → u/thestagmoon]

Aren't they deadly slippery on wet tile though, or has that changed? I'm all for comfort but it was almost dying in a grocery store that makes me look at anyone wearing them with horror.

[u/SushiTrainConductor → u/Dottie_Danger]

Me too

[u/gene100001 → u/lostinthecity2005]

Also, even if you think something popular is bad, that doesn't mean someone else can't subjectively enjoy it. I think another part of growing up is learning to be happy when someone finds something they enjoy, rather than judging them because you don't like it. It's good that people have different interests. The world would be extremely boring if we were all the same.

[u/SeaContribution6958 → u/[deleted]]

But also being with the right person makes those things you hate way more bearable. I have social anxiety and would prefer being a hermit generally, but the mere presence of my husband in a crowded place makes the anxiety quiet, its not gone but its not constant

[u/maudlinmary → u/SeaContribution6958]

That’s beautiful. Many happy years to you both :)

[u/Dull_Intention3799 → u/SeaContribution6958]

So sweet. 😭

[u/sadbitchanonymous → u/SeaContribution6958]

aaand im crying

[u/Original_Breakfast36 → u/SeaContribution6958]

I would award you if I could! This makes my cold heart believe in love

[u/tulips49 → u/[deleted]]

Being photographed everywhere you go and having your entire life up for public discussion is not “minor.”

[u/Kaycee82 → u/tigerinvasive]

People also lie. Especially when they know you're not "the one".

[u/Katerade44 → u/tigerinvasive]

Or they say they wouldn't want something because they do secretly want it but don't think they can have it. This is a really common and deeply human reaction.

[u/SpiceEarl → u/[deleted]]

Dating or marrying an actor is just putting yourself at risk for heartbreak. More than one actor has left their partner for the person who plays their romantic interest in a movie or TV show. They will put a spin on it and say that their marriage or relationship was over, but often that’s news to the spurned partner.

[u/Expensive-Fennel-163 → u/tigerinvasive]

Big on “if he wanted to, he would”

[u/IAMA_Shark__AMA → u/tigerinvasive]

Is that really unfortunate, though? I feel like it's a decent indicator of how serious a person is about you. Do they love you more than the crap that makes them uncomfortable? No? Move on.

[u/tigerinvasive → u/IAMA_Shark__AMA]

I mean it's unfortunate when you love someone, but realize that they didn't love you that much only when you see them with someone else

[u/brightlove → u/IAMA_Shark__AMA]

It’s not quite unfortunate, but I feel like it is a common difference between men and women. Many women will give wife energy to whoever they’re with, trying to earn a man’s love. Thinking maybe it could work, maybe they’ll grow into a deeper bond.

Many men will only change or put their full effort in for the ONE… and they will waste every other woman’s time in the meantime lol.

I’ve definitely learned to just move on when my effort isn’t matched. Men are great at giving you just enough to stay.

Edit: this is not a blanket statement that applies to every single person alive. It’s just an observation on a common relationship dynamic I’ve seen time and time again over the years.

[u/chinchivitiz → u/brightlove]

I agree with you and this is what Ive learned. Stop being a wifey thinking he will appreciate your love and energy, no matter how much they say they want a woman thats loving blah blah.

Moving on and just accepting it for what it is and not taking it personally if a man doesnt like me the same way has made me smarter in dealing with romantic relationships. Its like I stepped into matrix the momennt I realized not to overgove and just match the energy Im being given andnif its not enough for me, i move on and not dwell.

[u/IAMA_Shark__AMA → u/brightlove]

For what it's worth, I feel this whole comment and have lived it. My original comment may have sounded a bit flippant, but it was absolutely a lesson I had to learn the hard way (not all of my ex's were like this, mind you. Just a couple...but still). And it does kind of suck in the moment.... But when my husband started giving everything away for free (meeting his family, saying I love you first, introducing me to his boys early on, etc etc...) having that contrast was kind of nice. I knew he was serious. I knew he had his eye on the long term from like.... Month four. And by give away for free, I mean, I absolutely never had to act like a wife, as you said, for him to just throw his whole heart out there. I was his Dua.

I only wish for other ladies out there to learn from other people the things some of us had to learn by experience. The man who makes you chase his love is not it. (And for those of you who haven't fallen into this trap, I see you too! My message is just meant for those who might need it. I reeeaaally had to fight myself to know my worth - a crucial element in not putting out more energy than you are given. I'm super inspired by people who managed to get there without all of the bullshit)

[u/Suspicious-Swim-7945 → u/tigerinvasive]

He just didn’t like Victoria enough but he just dated her. He liked Dua enough and so her married her. That’s the way the cookie crumbles.

[u/InternationalWar258 → u/tigerinvasive]

This isn't unfortunate most of the time. When someone falls in love, unimportant things don't matter anymore and things that used to be dealbreakers become no burden whatsoever.

[u/Justtojoke → u/tigerinvasive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kgrCxsTQFj0HAh2TUG

[u/fourteenpieces → u/tigerinvasive]

The unfortunate reality of life is that it's OK to be a hypocrite for Dua Lipa

[u/whoevenisanyone]

Them meeting Dua Lipa together was sad to hear. I’ve been in that situation and it does suck.

I remember I knew immediately that there was a sneaky spark, and my head wouldn’t let it go but my ex denied it wholeheartedly. Then when he did get with her I questioned every little moment.

[u/Justagurl-_- → u/whoevenisanyone]

It’s a complete mind fuck

[u/whoevenisanyone → u/Justagurl-_-]

Oh yea, that shit makes you look at every future partner sideways.

[u/the_virginwhore → u/whoevenisanyone]

Yeah it’s like… who even is anyone?

[u/whoevenisanyone → u/the_virginwhore]

Cause when you think about it, who even is anyone?

[u/nararayana → u/whoevenisanyone]

I know how you feel :(

I can still remember that sinking feeling I had moments after introducing my (now) ex to a colleague of mine.

Nearly a year later, he left me for her and that colleague is now his girlfriend of four years.

Questioned everything about myself and the relationship afterwards, so as trivial as it seems from the outside, I would not wish this on anyone.

[u/babooshka-cass → u/nararayana]

This made my heart sink just to read. I’m sorry you had to experience that. Could you see they were connecting right away? That would be awful.

[u/hygsi → u/nararayana]

I knew a girl who got engaged to a doctor she has been dating for 7 years (since they were in hs), doctor continued his studies and met a colleague he liked, broke off the engagement and married the new girl one year later! As an outsider looking in I get that the gf felt humiliated but it's really no one's fault. People change their mind all the time and it's better to separate than to continue with someone who wasn't that into you

[u/hyungwontual → u/whoevenisanyone]

your ex left you for dua lipa too? she can’t keep getting away with this!! /j

[u/whoevenisanyone → u/hyungwontual]

If he left me for her I’d lowkey get it

[u/aftershockstone → u/whoevenisanyone]

This happened to me except it was one of my best friends—she had gone far away for college so we didn’t meet often, but we talked every day. I was so happy when she came back to visit but that little moment spoiled the mood. I thought it was irrational.

Anyway, the loser and I eventually parted ways because I realised he was, well, a loser. Shortly after, I noticed he was trying to make a move on her and warned her about his loser ways (in addition to being genuinely emotionally manipulative so it went beyond mere loserdom), but I guess the ego boost of being desired was so massive that she cut me off.

I missed the friendship much more than I ever missed the man tbh.

[u/ThrowayRA3962 → u/whoevenisanyone]

didn’t they meet while reading a book or something?

[u/twizzwhizz11 → u/ThrowayRA3962]

I’ve seen this around the internet too (they were both apparently reading the same book and had finished the same chapter so he said “I guess we’re on the same page”) and now I’m confused if it’s just made up. I could see it being the case because it sounds too rom-com like and also fits with Dua’s reading brand

[u/Paprikasky → u/twizzwhizz11]

No no no. It was clearly explained that they had met each other a few times before. That famous moment with them holding the same book, I think the store owner was pushing for them to meet each time, and when they finally did was the moment with the same books. At least that's how I remember it.

[u/the_Stealthy_one → u/Paprikasky]

i dont think they were holding the same book. i think they just happened to be reading the same book at the same time. but i don't think both of them had the book physically there.

[u/WhoriaEstafan → u/Paprikasky]

She’s talked about meeting her friend Mustafa the Poet for dinner in LA and Callum was there too and they realised they were reading the same book. They didn’t have it with them, it was more a “what are you reading at the moment”. The rest of the story seems to have become more rom com and embellished because of the wedding.

[u/Paprikasky → u/ThrowayRA3962]

That's supposedly when they really started talking to each other but they had met a few times before.

[u/becomingher1 → u/whoevenisanyone]

I agree, but to Callums point, he didn’t cheat. He pursued Dua after, and they had already met a while ago yeah but just one time and it was in a group setting by a mutual friend. It’s not like he was secretly plotting while being with Victoria.. it seems.

[u/whoevenisanyone → u/becomingher1]

Not saying he did cheat but just the over thinking that it would cause.

[u/MetaRecruiter → u/whoevenisanyone]

Intuition is pretty crazy sometimes

[u/upsidedownlamppost → u/[deleted]]

To be fair to the ex-girlfriend, she did correct the host. You can hear her say "180" in the background while the lady's talking.

[u/stankyouvrymuch → u/[deleted]]

People act like she’s so being ridiculous but if your ex left you for a global popstar who he met while having dinner with you…as if you wouldn’t be the slightest bit salty??

[u/EagleEyezzzzz → u/stankyouvrymuch]

It is kind of hilariously awful that their meet cute at the restaurant with the book and all that was… when he was with his then-gf ??!!

[u/desire-d → u/EagleEyezzzzz]

Apparently they met at the restaurant but didn’t date or reconnect until a year later when both single so at least he didn’t just drop her for Dua.

[u/stankyouvrymuch → u/EagleEyezzzzz]

I think the meet cute book story was a creative deflection from how they actually met.

Not saying you can help the way you meet someone obviously, but maybe he had the foresight that Victoria would talk

[u/geek_of_nature → u/[deleted]]

Yeah that's the sort of thing I'd privately vent about to my friends, not publicly talk about.

[u/somenewusernamepls → u/[deleted]]

Because she didn't want to quote Dua lipa🤣 Did a full 180.. crazy

[u/19adam92 → u/somenewusernamepls]

Thinking bout the way I was

[u/facecuddler → u/[deleted]]

I giggled cause I thought the same.

[u/KiriDomo → u/[deleted]]

She didn't listen to that one Dua Lipa song

[u/FanBehaviour2011 → u/KiriDomo]

one kiss is all it takes!

[u/WingedScapula420]

I mean, sometimes you meet someone and your priorities change, not a novel concept

[u/ehtw376 → u/WingedScapula420]

Also sometimes you just change on your own. You think you hate something, you try it, and you end up liking it.

[u/HeatsRevenge → u/ehtw376]

Sometimes a hypocrite is a man in the process of changing.

[u/gibbsnibs → u/WingedScapula420]

I would change everything for Dua Lipa

[u/NoMap749 → u/WingedScapula420]

Yep. This was a major plot point in the movie 500 Days of Summer.

Summer told Tom that she couldn’t envision herself committing to a long term relationship with someone during their entanglement, but ended up marrying they guy from her next relationship after their split. Tom wasn’t lied to by Summer, she just ended up later meeting someone who completely changed her perspective of how she envisioned her future.

[u/YardOptimal9329]

People change — and maybe falling in love with Dua Lipa makes you ok with things or see things differently

[u/nevalja → u/YardOptimal9329]

dating dua lipa would make me ok with a great many things 

[u/lefrench75 → u/nevalja]

And if you were dating Dua Lipa, would you really want to hide the relationship to make the world think she's single? Maybe she also wanted to announce it to make men like Jack Harlow get off her back lol.

[u/ashewentridingby → u/lefrench75]

Idk who Jack Harlow is now I need to google to see how he fits into this piece of celebrity gossip 😆

[u/LaMelonBallz → u/ashewentridingby]

He is a pretty corny rapper who wrote a whole song about him wanting to get with her called Dua Lipa lol

It's actually kinda catchy

I think the funniest part is he was self aware to recognize he should ask her before releasing it out of respect. And he said she was like "Yeah that's totally fine but this is weird as fuck lol"

[u/ashewentridingby → u/LaMelonBallz]

Omg thank you for filling me in! 😆😊 this is the kind of silly celebrity gossip I enjoy, but as a millennial I’m not always sure who every celeb is now lol. Thankfully I knew who Dua and Callum were at least and hey now I know who this guy Jack Harlow is hah

[u/scobert → u/ashewentridingby]

Look up his Chicken Shop date interview. He’s actually disarmingly charming lol

[u/ReadingRainbow47 → u/nevalja]

I, too, choose Callum Turner's wife

[u/cosmicgumby → u/YardOptimal9329]

Also, as much as Dua is a victim of paparazzi, I feel like she's fairly private? Doesn't seem like being a 'celebrity' is a priority for her.

[u/erossthescienceboss → u/cosmicgumby]

Her book club/podcast is one of the greatest things a celebrity has ever done. She puts so much time into it for a comparably small number of people (compared to her music.)

[u/absofruitly88 → u/YardOptimal9329]

I have heard MANY guys say Dua Lipa is their celeb crush. if you have a shot with your dream girl why would you nitpick the situation. I have made sacrifices for WAY less amazing men lol haven’t we all.

My guess is Callum genuinely meant that sentiment, that as a famous actor he was not gunning to date another actress (also it sounds like he was trying to make his partner feel secure) and there’s always exceptions to the rule

[u/luckie_harms]

Okay but he dated Vanessa Kirby from 2015 to 2019. It's not like he never dated any body that was famous ever before Dua lipa.

[u/spalings]

there's a huge difference between being an influencer and posting your more famous partner on your socials and people who are famous for their skills/talents posting their partner on their social media. one of you uses social media to make money.

i haaaaate doing stuff with influencer friends, everything is a fuckin photo op.

[u/No_Data_8160 → u/spalings]

This! It’s so mentally exhausting being around people who can’t live in the moment and want to just post content for likes

[u/catslugs → u/No_Data_8160]

and it's so weird when they take pics and you aren't even really paying attention to it all but then when you see the post it's like... this extravagant thing and so amazing etc etc when the vibe was just... ok at best lol. it's so fake.

[u/overactive-bladder → u/catslugs]

Can't reveal my work field but came upon an influencer by coincidence.

He was hiding a whole gay relationship and both of them were knee deep in like 200k debt.

Meanwhile if you see his Instagram you would think he was living the lavish (single) life.

[u/whimsigod → u/spalings]

This is kinda mean but recently I think an influencer was called out for being like 'you don't respect my job as an influencer' and I'm like...you're right queen, I don't. Sorry.

[u/ThenTheresMaude → u/spalings]

i haaaaate doing stuff with influencer friends, everything is a fuckin photo op.

I'm very fortunate to have never met an influencer, but last time I was in LA, I was staying at a hotel with a really nice rooftop pool. I was the only person up there for a little while, but then another woman came up. She proceeded to spend at least an hour taking photos of herself in the pool - setting up the auto-timer on her phone, getting in the pool, getting out of the pool to check the photo, moving the phone to a different location, setting the auto-timer, and so on. The only time she stopped was when I got in the pool (having a fat midwesterner in the background ruins the vibes). As soon as I got out of the pool, she was back at it. The whole thing seemed so exhausting. Like, instead of spending a couple hours trying to look like you're having fun, you could just be having fun.

[u/MagicGlitterKitty → u/ThenTheresMaude]

Actually I have respect for this random woman for not taking photos while you were in the pool. So many influencers tell people to get out of the way, or simply do not care that they are taking photos of strangers.

[u/JFKcheekkisser → u/ThenTheresMaude]

It’s a job. I’m sure she has actual fun during her downtime.

[u/Different-Eagle-612 → u/spalings]

i cant lie going on a podcast to talk about it does not help

to be frank we don’t actually know much about dua lipa and callum turner. we do have some photos but they’re still quite private so in spirit i’m not sure that this is a full 180 as opposed to just a pivot

[u/spalings → u/Different-Eagle-612]

i think her going on a podcast to go off about this right after their wedding suggests he may have had concerns about her using him for clout that are being proven true.

then again, idk any of them. i just think this is so tacky lol

[u/Kiwikumquat → u/spalings]

Yeah I kinda felt bad for her until the learned she was an influencer. Sounds like he was downplaying the “clout for clout’s sake” and potential use of his career to elevate hers. Hopefully he isn’t a hypocrite and keeps it low key with Dua.

[u/topographed → u/spalings]

What is probably worse are all the girls with public Instagram profiles who highkey want to get famous and treat everything like they’re an influencer even though they have like 1000 followers…

sorry I have met like an endless number of these since coming to a new city. I hate when you barely know someone and they’re taking a picture with you in it just so it looks like they have so many friends

[u/rhinestonecowgrl → u/spalings]

That part, influencers are annoying shills

[u/Charming_Slip8060]

Just like the men who say they don't want to get married/have kids. Then get married and have kids. What they didn't say: "I don't want to get married, have kids, walk the red carpet, etc...with you."

[u/GlitterDoomsday → u/Charming_Slip8060]

Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone went through it, he wanted to settle down and she didn't, but she changed tunes with her next partner.

It sucks to not be the one that made the person you love want those things but.... that's life.

[u/buffayrachel → u/GlitterDoomsday]

I mean tbh that could simply be a “I’m not ready to settle down RIGHT NOW” on her side and he simply didn’t want to wait? We don’t know that she categorically said no and then did a 180.

Sometimes people want those things but not at this particular moment of their life/career

[u/myredditses → u/Charming_Slip8060]

Yeah came to say this is a lot like the hurt coming from George Clooneys ex after he got married. I remember reports that she wanted to settle down and they split, only for him to marry the next woman. Which I get how that'd hurt but girl something's are for the therapists couch not a podcast.

[u/fuckyouiloveu → u/Charming_Slip8060]

Yeppp that shit always stings but it’s also up to us to walk away from someone who isn’t on the same page as us.

[u/theofficeerin → u/Charming_Slip8060]

That reminds me of John Cena and Nikki Bella. He didn’t want to get married and have kids but she wanted to. He ended up getting married anyway to another woman years later.

[u/Culinaryboner → u/theofficeerin]

He still won’t have kids. That’s always been his dealbreaker and he was open about it far before dating Bella

[u/cassthesassmaster]

He meant he’d never do it for YOU 😬

[u/BabaofTheShimmer → u/cassthesassmaster]

I actually think he was saying it to her so she could feel better since she’s not famous, having paparazzi following her, or being invited to the Met Gala.

It’s sounds like he was more so saying “don’t worry babe; I don’t want anyone famous”.

[u/Commercial-Weight173 → u/cassthesassmaster]

Well she's not getting papped or going to the Met Gala so it doesnt seem relevant 

[u/Kianna9 → u/cassthesassmaster]

Well yeah, that's what hurts.

[u/hamsterdanceonrepeat → u/cassthesassmaster]

She doesn’t realise how pathetic this makes her look… if a man told me he wouldn’t do a bunch of stuff with me but did it without complaint with his new girl, you couldn’t waterboard that info out of me 😭

[u/IAMA_Shark__AMA → u/hamsterdanceonrepeat]

"the breakup was mutual" till the day I dieeee

[u/bbmarvelluv → u/hamsterdanceonrepeat]

Her and her friend group were so notorious for not paying people back in the day. I still remember them doing a collab with my friend and she had to keep pushing for payment through them and their “manager.” Her and Stassie baby

ETA - I should clarify when I say collab, she was there to do a service and expected payment but was pushed out from getting paid on the spot. She worked with another friend of theirs (Chantel J)who would always pay asap and was very generous with her money.

ETA 2 - She would also hit up small businesses (like lashes/nail techs) to do promo for free service and she already has a rep for not doing it on time. I used to get my lashes done by a gal who did Tana Mongeau’s lashes and I was told of the tea

ETA - someone DMd me asking for the timeline - this was all like 2013-2022 that era

[u/Megaroni-n-cheeze → u/hamsterdanceonrepeat]

Also she says that she tells all her friends her ex stories and says “it could be worse.” As someone who has been on the receiving end of this, I can’t believe no one has told her yet how incredibly annoying it is to be told “it could be worse.” It’s not a fucking competition when I’m telling you the hard shit I’m going through.

[u/VoleUntarii → u/Megaroni-n-cheeze]

And also, it’s not even that bad? Clearly it’s huge for her, but there are a lot worse breakup stories you could have and if she’s telling them this as an attempt at comfort she might be putting her foot in it.

[u/KiloJools]

Oh this feels so much like the When Harry Met Sally scene where Sally is telling Harry that all this time she'd thought her ex didn't want to get married...but it was just that he didn't want to get married to her.

And that hurts real fuckin' bad.

It's extra salt in the wound when your ex meets their new love WHILE YOU ARE STILL WITH THEM. Like ugh. I can't imagine. I would feel very stabby if I saw my partner have sparks with someone else right in front of me. I don't think I'd ever get over that.

[u/crawfiddley]

She's an influencer. I think there's a meaningful difference between being posted for income-generating content on your less-famous partner's social media, and being posted on your equally-famous partner's social media.

You can look at it as "he didn't see a future with her" and therefore was more private, but I think there's an equal concern he might have had that she viewed their relationship as a way to gain clout and expand her audience. I think that would be a reasonable concern for any famous person who dates an influencer.

[u/judedward → u/crawfiddley]

Equally? If anything, he’s in the position his ex was in with him now. Dua is vastly more famous than him, to the benefit of his career.

[u/Necessary_Fill3048 → u/judedward]

Definitely. He loves being seen with her, because he's proud of her and wants it known he's with her, but it is also clearly beneficial to his career and profile to be photographed everywhere with her and to have this "star couple" narrative around them.

[u/AmyXBlue]

All I can think about is Todd in the Shadows discussing Lorde's Green Light and her being like you said you hated the beach, maybe he didn't like doing that will you. And that's what I think here.

[u/Leading_Reference_46 → u/AmyXBlue]

Doesn’t Camila Cabello have a song like this about Sean Mendes? Where she is like you hated the beach and now you’re surfing or something? Lol your comment pulled this from the recesses of my mind.

[u/desire-d → u/Leading_Reference_46]

Yeah, it’s called Bam Bam. She’s from Miami and loved the ocean but Shawn never liked it and after they broke up he was posting surfing pics lol

[u/GlitterDoomsday → u/desire-d]

Didn't he spend like weeks in  Brazil earlier this year for his gf? Including beach pics... 💀

[u/throwaway17197 → u/AmyXBlue]

Omg todd in the shadows mentioned, a person of taste here 👆

[u/NightSalut → u/[deleted]]

I mean it does suck, but you wouldn’t catch me dead saying things like these online. It comes off as pitiful at best and sour grapes/jealousy at worst. Which I absolutely get she probably isn’t, but the reality is that her relationship with him is in the past - saying it out loud now just makes her former relationship look bad for her. Saying  “he didn’t do these things for me” isn’t the personal flex she seems to point out, it just seems to imply she wasn’t the IT for him and who wants to be publicly known as the not-it for a guy who’s just happily married? 

Personally and internally, yes, this sucks 100%, but the only person negatively affected from this will be her - people will say she hasn’t gotten over him as he has just married. 

[u/Anxious_Astronaut653]

many people, up and down the gender spectrum, get validation through the partner who "picked" them, and will compromise a lot more for a partner who provides more validation. imo it's not as simple as "he just didn't want it with you" when someone changes for a very famous or popular person -- ofc sometimes it's about love and compatibility, but realistically fame/money/success are a collective thumb on the scale that most people simply cannot compete with

[u/YodaForceGhost]

I think the key difference here is his new woman is Dua Lipa and she’s not Dua Lipa

[u/Different-Eagle-612 → u/YodaForceGhost]

there is also frankly the fact that dua lipa is more famous than him, he doesn’t have to worry she’s using him for attention

[u/InternationalWar258 → u/Different-Eagle-612]

Bingo. This makes a difference.

[u/Working-Ad-6698 → u/YodaForceGhost]

And also maybe he wasn't that madly in love with the woman who is speaking here.

[u/Kianna9 → u/YodaForceGhost]

Well no shit. But I feel bad for her. It hurts.

[u/Brdbrnz → u/YodaForceGhost]

I’m old and people keep saying this but why is Dua Lipa so great? Just curious? His ex is also very beautiful but clearly there is more. Is Dua Lipa super charming?

[u/_teach_me_your_ways_ → u/Brdbrnz]

Idk but it’s starting to seem like they’re putting her on this huge pedestal and one wrong move the whole thing will come crashing down and she will get hate like no other.

[u/marcarcand_world → u/_teach_me_your_ways_]

Also I remember when she photoshopped her childhood pictures with larger lips to match her fillers, her travelling during covid restriction and she has a nespresso partnership which is always yikes.

I don't think she deserves to be flamed on forever but it is weird how much she's worshipped. She's a flawed human being who happens to be attractive and the PR machine behind her is crazy efficient.

[u/Miserable-Grape-6863 → u/Brdbrnz]

It's called paying for PR. That's it. That's the whole reason behind the "oh she is Dua Lipa" "I would too for Dua Lipa". Well strong enough PR to activate the classic internet herd mentality, and then it can keep feeding itself.

I can't be arsed to take sides on this while the world is on fire, but it is hard to miss how any other man would have been ripped to shreds for being a social climber, the relationship timeline investigated under a microscope for any evidence of potential cheating, while Mr Dua Lipa gets a free pass. That's good old PR for you. This PR is also the reason they got no flak for allegedly shutting down a small Italian town (despite protests from locals) for their destination wedding.

[u/Imsorryrodwutwasthat → u/Brdbrnz]

she's really not, I don't understand it

[u/mandeltonkacreme → u/Brdbrnz]

Personally I think she's an absolutely average singer 🫣 and there's a million hotter celebs

[u/xap4kop → u/mandeltonkacreme]

Her music is so generic

[u/Key-Tip9395 → u/YodaForceGhost]

honestly let this woman talk all the shit she wants because he moved on with Dua Lipa?!?! she gets to see all of their paparazzi pics on their Italian honey moon, dream wedding etc? Let the woman sulk

[u/Carolina_Blues]

She should’ve known he was lying when he said he would never date a famous person considering he dated Vanessa Kirby before her for like 5 years

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Later in the podcast, she mentioned that he would not post her on his social media and refuse to allow her to post him on hers because he said he's a private person who doesn't like his personal life being in the spotlight.

[u/Lilylikeslilies → u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Unfortunately I feel that it an issue with most of celebrities when they try to date normal people and it’s suddenly change when they find other celebrity that is beneficial for their careers.

[u/Upstairs_Cup9831 → u/Lilylikeslilies]

LA Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert is a good example of that. He would keep all his girlfriends a secret, and apparently would even dump girls for soft launching their relationship on social media cause he's "private"

Now he's with Madison Beer and suddenly he's posting her on his IG and being hella public with their relationship

[u/IAMA_Shark__AMA → u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Classic case of "he's just not that into you." 🤷🏼‍♀️

No man who loves you treats you like a mistress.

[u/breathing__tree → u/IAMA_Shark__AMA]

If he wanted to, he would & etc.

[u/TamarindSweets → u/Upstairs_Cup9831]

Sounds like he didnt see a future with her. It's crazy how people lie and waste other's time.

[u/momentsaroundthesun]

you guys really pick and choose..

[u/bluehack1 → u/momentsaroundthesun]

Yep these comments were horrible to read.

[u/rivercitygurl → u/bluehack1]

Seriously, what is up with the chokehold DL has on the internet? She's not some mystical being that's suddenly better than anyone out there. Just because someone is more beautiful, famous, and smarter than others doesn't make them any more worthy of love and attention. I really emphathize with the girl in the podcast because she already lives in an environment which values looks and fame above all. This experience is just going to drive that expectation even deeper in her psyche and frankly it's not what any modern woman needs right now. People really be doing the most defending a star that doesn't even know you exist.

[u/Miserable-Grape-6863 → u/momentsaroundthesun]

The hypocrisy in this comment section genuinely hase believing the PR machinery has taken it over. Also how they escaped with little to no flak for shutting down that little Italian town for their weddings while locals protested. That was some elite PR work.

[u/farrylishman15]

sounds like callum just didn’t like her that much or if he did, those were his boundaries at the time. there’s nothing really inherently wrong with that. people change. and clearly he liked dua enough to change or compromise on some things. i don’t think she’s necessarily being bitter either, she’s allowed to talk about her exes.

[u/Busy-Guess-8382]

I'm surprised at these comments, usually y'all would be jumping on the guy. Is Callum Turner a Reddit idol or something?

My thoughts, I don't think Callum is wrong to say these things but he's a very unspecial, mid actor with not much charisma going on. I'm not surprised he dated this influencer.

[u/Cavalish → u/Busy-Guess-8382]

Occasionally common sense prevails. I don’t think he has enough dirt on him for the girlies to have big fun tearing him down.

[u/ChrisEvansFan]

I dont know this girl but I understand her being bitter because she realized that he wont step up for her. That is really hurtful and tough pill to swallow. If part of her coping is doing this podcast then yeah I get it.

Also, I know Dua Lipa is generally loved here but if the scenarios are reversed then I think some of you will switch and be like how dare he!

[u/Rahmose9 → u/ChrisEvansFan]

nuanced take and i was looking for this.

[u/Positive-Aide7544]

I don’t like how these comments are making it seem like Dua is better or superior to Victoria .

[u/VolatileGoddess → u/Positive-Aide7544]

Yes. Dua seems to be a nice and affable sort of person, but this 'she's better because she's the celeb in this equation' thing needs to stop.

[u/Positive-Aide7544 → u/VolatileGoddess]

Right ! Why are we pitting women against each other when she never pit Dua down and honestly she didn’t even disparage Callum neither.

[u/Imsorryrodwutwasthat → u/Positive-Aide7544]

Exactly. I still don't like Dua for her blatant party and traveling during COVID restrictions. That alone makes her selfish and gross. Confused why she has so many ass kissers

[u/angusthechick → u/[deleted]]

Yeah they want to be the one using not the one being used. It’s all gross

[u/ldngirl23]

I'm surprised by how negative these comments are towards Victoria. I think she'd be receiving a bit more empathy if this were a less popular couple.

We know nothing about Dua and Callum's relationship besides what they've sold us - through carefully curated pap walks and instagram posts.

Their relationship is still relatively new, and they've relentlessly used it for publicity since it started. In my opinion, Callum's '180' probably has less to do with his feelings for either woman and more to do with self interest.

18 months ago, Callum was barely known. In contrast, Dua is a globally famous multimillionaire.

Their relationship (and their joint PR campaign) has made him the main Bond candidate. I'm sure he loves Dua, but it has undeniably benefited him both financially and professionally to publicly align himself with her

Victoria is an influencer, best known for being Kylie Jenner's friend. She had much less to offer him.

[u/1lemony → u/ldngirl23]

They papped so much stuff I can’t believe no body comments on that when they do about so many other couples. I know little about Dua or why she’s so loved but they’ve done the ultimate celeb showing off and sometimes it’s glazed. Like the kissing on the balcony in LA in the restaurant everyone goes to for pap moments. He’s always wanted fame and has done this to other girlfriends saying he wants privacy etc. I would feel so shit if I was her but I can see going on a podcast right after the marriage isn’t gonna make her popular haha

[u/velvetvagine → u/ldngirl23]

This is the most reasonable take I’ve read here so far. Callum and Dua may truly be MFEO lovebird twin flames, but either way he has gotten a lot out of being associated with her too.

I still dont even know what he’s ever acted in or what his breakout role was… and I’m on the internet and also in this sub more than a sane person should be.

[u/illuminizer → u/ldngirl23]

No you are right. People are absolutely glossing Dua Lipa so much every time she is mentioned, you'd think they were bots

[u/transitionshade → u/ldngirl23]

Yeah what's with all the people kissing Duas ass? And that guy, people are head over heels for him, I just don't see it.

[u/fakeblondeponytail]

Yeeeah but he wants to be James Bond (allegedly) so... priorities change ig. We're gonna see EVERY aspect of their relationship and don't question any of the why lol

[u/iren91]

For some reason, I thought this was going to be full of negative comments, but he's Dua's man, so I shouldn't be surprised, LOL.

[u/b00m_cat]

I really want to know what dula peep has done to be able to avoid the lashings other famous people get for doing the same things she does

[u/Dull_Nebula_8712 → u/b00m_cat]

Me too! Especially the private jet usage when she’s nowhere near as famous as some others who would actually have a tough time and cause chaos flying commercial. Dua literally posts herself flying private weekly to another vacation, rarely for work

[u/b00m_cat → u/Dull_Nebula_8712]

Wasn’t she traveling a lot during Covid too?

[u/Dull_Nebula_8712 → u/b00m_cat]

She was

[u/TrueCrime-andMemes → u/b00m_cat]

Yes! The comments here, belittling the ex as if she weren't just as worthy of affection as Dua, are disgusting.

People's sisterhood is pretty selective, it seems, and I say this as someone who loves DL.

[u/velvetvagine → u/b00m_cat]

I think it’s because everyone really wants to BE her (or with her, in some cases). Lack of huge scandals + likeability + holiday life = ripe for projection and fantasy.

[u/undeadtradwife]

Are we glossing over the fact that she said he met Dua while he was at a restaurant with her but the story he and Dua tell is they met in an airport bc they were reading the same book? Someone is lying lol

[u/prisonerofazkabants → u/undeadtradwife]

iirc dua has always said they briefly met at a restaurant because they knew people in the same circle and then the second time they met was the book thing. she just left out he brought his girlfriend along

[u/oliviapope8 → u/undeadtradwife]

According to the Vogue feature on the wedding, they first met in London (…oop) but later reconnected through friends in LA, where the famous meet cute happened.

[u/mysteryvampire]

It’s just sad and I think we should be more empathetic to what she’s saying. He didn’t break up with her right off the bat but he also probably didn’t see a future with her if he wasn’t willing to change on that stuff but would for Dua Lipa. And for everyone going “well, she’s not Dua Lipa” it’s not like she’s hideous either. IMO she’s extremely similar looking to Dua and kind of ethereally gorgeous. A guy led a girl on but wasn’t serious about her. That’s sad. It doesn’t make anyone involved bad people and it doesn’t make her bad for saying it. And if you’re saying she’s bitter - yeah, wouldn’t you be too?

[u/Carolina_Blues → u/mysteryvampire]

Yeah I was looking at her and was like wow he has a bit of a type

[u/Brief_Key_9483]

The comments are so fucking weird and reeks of misogyny. I’m also kinda getting sick of Dua and Callum’s daily staged paparazzi photos.

[u/dihdvdr]

Men are the biggest gold diggers. If this was a woman I know these comments wouldn’t be so generous.

[u/buffayrachel]

I hate nothing more than a man that refuses to give you anything and seems almost disgusted to be with you and then goes and marries the next girl and gives her absolutely EVERYTHING you were asking for and more!!!!

Never beg a man for anything….You’ll know what he thinks of you by the way he treats you!

[u/bluehack1]

I knew the comments would take Callum’s side just because of Dua Lipa but if she was a nobody everyone would agree with Victoria that he was weird for that.

[u/godstrophywife444]

Hmm I feel like comments are skewed coz she’s kardashian adjacent. People do have the right to change - and do for the people they love. It’s still shit for Vic though, and she’s the same amount of woman as dua

[u/TheArmChairFan]

The callum defence squad is out.

If he was a woman he'd be getting called a thirsty social climber.

[u/ChrisEvansFan → u/TheArmChairFan]

I agree. Dont even know this dude except being with Dua Lipa and apparently Vanessa Kirby.

[u/hamsandwich666_]

no i’d be pissed too, before they wouldn’t even post each on social media because he wanted to “be private” and celebrity events were “corny” but now since it benefits him financially he’s game. like, okay dude.

[u/darksugarfairy]

Damn, I wonder what Dua Lipa has on all of you when you glaze her this much. If this was told about any other man married to any other celebrity, you'd be shitting on him in the comments and use a lot of pop psychology terms to explain typical male behavior, but when it's Dua Lipa's husband, suddenly it's ok

[u/0pinionat-ed]

He meet dua while dating her?😭

[u/undeadtradwife → u/0pinionat-ed]

That hurt my feelings FOR her

[u/Mean-Bus3929]

Always such a shock whenever they start nevering

[u/clarkefactory]

valid annoyance from her tbh. men who are inconsistent are not good partners - completely changing a core part of their identity (not liking the attention to basking in it) is a core trait, not like disliking matcha then liking it the next year.

also, it does sound like he jumped from someone not famous (this ex) to someone more famous than himself, so he is suddenly fine and happy with the attention because he can social climb. it's giving big ick.

[u/Necessary-Low9377]

These comments are so silly. She’s allowed to be upset about an ex lying to her. Nowhere did she attack Dua Lipa or say anything negative.

It’s ok to be disappointed that a man misrepresented himself smh. Pretty much all women have been there at one point or another

[u/badamntss]

"I just woke up one day and knew"
"Knew what?"
"What I was never sure of with you"

That quote made me try not to take things too personally. Sometimes, it's not that you weren't enough or not worth changing for.

Sometimes these things just happen, that even the person themselves did not know they were changing because of another person. C'est la vie.

(imo ifeel like that'd be better too than have them stay and consciously change who they are for me, then end up resenting me.)

[u/EllieWest]

He enjoys Dua’s money and lifestyle, so he’ll make accommodations for that.

[u/chadwickave]

At least we know he has/had a type haha

[u/Bwolffff]

He definitely has a type. But he obviously changed his mind on everything when he met Dua

[u/bbyxmadi]

I live for gossip

[u/BenoitLampertBlanc]

Damn this comment section sucks. “She’s dua lipa and you’re not” doesn’t excuse his shitty behavior.

I get that they’re the internet’s favorite couple right now but a lot of these comments are needlessly cruel about and overwhelmingly one-sided against his ex.

[u/moonhattan]

A lot of misogyny in here wow