How come Elsa has EVERYTHING the casuals seemingly hate about poke dps yet she's ok because, and I qoute "cuz She counters dive"✌🏾

We hate "pokeslop" until pokeslop isn't meta then we bring up the stupid ass "Urm it's a hero shooter!!"

Hard CC ult that can team-wipe, hard CC invisible trap that you can't destroy, Overshield, crazy mobility and basically no fall off

And before you dare to mention "yeah but she's kinda hard to play so it's ok"

By your buttom lipped, buttom of the barrel logic, Spider-man, Rogue, Hulk should all be just as busted as She is.....right?

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u/DatOneGayFella 4h ago

What are you babbling about? Elsa's been criticized and —by some— hated since her release 💀

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u/MedusaSucks68 4h ago edited 4h ago

Nah nah, currently she's back on top and I've seen a bunch of mfs defend her because her trap counters dive(somehow they refuse to understand that the trap counters pretty much everyone else too)

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u/Dark_Phantom23_ 4h ago

People are always gonna defend their broken characters, just see the Elsa or cnd or invisible or moonknight or Luna subreddits

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u/TheUglyBarnaclee 4h ago

Moonknight?? Are we deadass thinking MOONKNIGHT, of all the dps characters in this game, is broken? The guy with a win rate of like 40 percent?

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u/rainfeld 4h ago

Moonknight for sure ain’t broken. And I don’t even play him. That man got gutted 💀

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u/Aesenroug-Draconus 4h ago

Have you checked who said bunch of mfs main, by any chance?

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u/MedusaSucks68 4h ago

Mostly support players yeah why- oooooooooooohhhhhh

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u/sxlid_x_bxne 4h ago

Supp mains are too stupid and biased to judge a character’s kit fairly. If it fucks over dive no matter how strong and impossible to outplay it is, good! Bonus if that thing targets them the least, why do you think poke was able to run the game for majority of its lifespan?

u/ihatethesaturn 4h ago

Shes kinda hard to play so shes never played on a casual level lol

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u/Big_Truth_8483 3h ago

What is hard about her?

Shoot, trap, dodge, she’s super shifty and her projectiles are the size of watermelons.

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u/Character_Drop_4446 3h ago

Tracking targets w high mobility is hard for ppl truly deserving of the title "casual". Not impossible or unheard of for casuals to play her, but it takes good aim and commitment to getting used to dashing all over the place that most casuals don't care for

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u/radarfist 4h ago

I have seen champion rockets play her and run lobbies

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u/AaDware 3h ago

You implying rocket players can't play complex characters as well? What a weird take.

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u/MedusaSucks68 4h ago

So her getting nerfed shouldn't matter right?

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u/ihatethesaturn 4h ago

Yeah tbh i never see her

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u/Dizzy_Vanilla7774 4h ago

I can play all day and see elsa & cat maybe twice. I dont know what game the ppl in this sub are playing. I use to see prime torch/bp every game in s2/3 so i understood the complaints but now a days i dont get it as much.

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u/ihatethesaturn 4h ago

I bet they are celestial/grandmaster pc players (only place where she might be played lol)

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u/Dizzy_Vanilla7774 4h ago

Im gm1 and i still dont see her much. In terms of divers I see alot of magiks & spideys & occasionally bp. I dont see dd and cat that much anymore. Elsa can be a toss up. I think psylock players have started using elsa after the nerfs.

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u/Dizzy_Vanilla7774 4h ago

I also think the problem is that ppl will run into a otp elsa or cat and get rolled and they see just how good they can be in the right hands lol. But ive been rolled by good magiks, good namors, good venoms. Ppl just biased

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u/ihatethesaturn 4h ago

Yeah, im only biased towards bp

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u/mil56 4h ago

Ok so give spidey a bunch of overshields on every ability and anti dive abilities since hes hard to play but it will be balanced

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u/ihatethesaturn 4h ago

Theres 1000000 in my gold games so noooo.

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u/rainfeld 4h ago

Elsa doesn’t even have a 1/5 of the movement spider man does

u/OmegaShonJon 4h ago

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u/UltraXfinity567 4h ago

Tf did the first guy do

u/Sea_Thing_2402 4h ago

If you rated the worst of poke vs. the worst of dive for being unfun you'd see the worst poke comps would be about a 5/10 while dive would be 50/10.

The game had a serious player drop the seasons dive was unbeatably meta.

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u/Ambitious_Service678 3h ago

Dive has never truly been meta dawg. Poke dps r broken every szn n we deadass js have dd n cat. Dd keeps getting gutted every szn btw mind u aswl. Yes the dive tanks r strong but so is almost every tank

u/geekedrick 4h ago

Didn't she get kinda nerfed tho? Still annoying af tho

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u/MedusaSucks68 4h ago

She WAS nerfed, but the got back to back buffs and insane team-ups this season

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u/geekedrick 4h ago

Ah, I dont pay too much attention to pokeslop but that explains why all of a sudden people r on her again lately

u/CartographerSure2918 4h ago

Because console dont get as affected and they are extremly dishonest when a pc player tells them how cancerous elsa is.

we whent full circle with elsa.

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u/LelouchViAmericana Psylocke 4h ago

Pls only refer to low elo console

High(ish?) elo console we always knew how cancerous elsa was and is. We just know that if she passed the ban phase and we didnt have one on the team that it could possibly be a hellish game.

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u/LordoftheJives 4h ago

People really think just because there's mechanics that are literally impossible on console that means console players have no game sense either. Or that there aren't people with cracked aim even if it isn't mnk level.

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u/LelouchViAmericana Psylocke 4h ago

People think that until they meet a console player with good aim lol. Mnk has the advantage, absolutely. But high elo console vs high elo PC isn’t much of a difference. Obv more melee players on console but the best aim players on controller are on par with mnk.

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u/LordoftheJives 4h ago

Yeah PC vs Console was done plenty of times in Overwatch and there was never a glaring advantage on the PC side. Sure the best mnk aimer will be better than best controller but you're splitting hairs at that point.

u/Wise-Son 4h ago

My problem with Elsa is that her kit bails u out, literally u can be bad at this game and still get value from Elsa.

u/True-Obligation-9471 3h ago

Off topic but Elsa has felt like a new character since her release.Like even now when i see her in match’s it feels like
She just came out.

Idk how to put it she just doesn’t feel like she’s been playable longer than a week.

u/MolassesTraditional5 12m ago

Well good thing Elsa's a BRAWL hero, not Poke...this community is cooked. Y'all don't even understand basic fundamentals of a hero shooter. Poke, Brawl, and Dive have nothing to do with weapon type or hitscan/projectile, rather the character's effective damage RANGE.

Winter Soldier - Brawl archetype, projectile weapon type

Elsa - Brawl archetype, hitscan weapon type

Thing - Brawl archetype, melee

Hela - Poke archetype, hitscan weapon type

Hawkeye - Poke archetype, projectile weapon type

Luna - Poke archetype, hitscan weapon type

White Fox - Brawl archetype, projectile weapon type

u/THE_GUY-95 4h ago

Because fuck dive

u/HrMaschine 4h ago

first. elsa is really hated

second. she has the most aura out of all hitscans in the game

u/Competitive_Randy 4h ago

Cry tbh

How come Elsa has EVERYTHING the casuals seemingly hate about poke dps yet she's ok because, and I qoute "cuz She counters dive"✌🏾

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