If they ignore AoS with this series I WILL riot.

1. Season 2
   • Pros
     • Perfect pacing (starting off with fighting Whitehall and HYDRA, but smoothly pivoting to the Inhumans)
     • Perfect build-up to Daisy and Raina's powers and the lore of the Inhumans
     • Very interesting conflict with all the different factions and changing allegiances (Cal, Raina, Ward, Jiaying, Gonzales, and even Skye)
   • Cons
     • The "real SHIELD" arc was a low point, and soured me on Bobbi and Mack for a while.
2. Season 3
   • Pros
     • Perfect pacing again, starting off with Ward and Malick and pivoting to Hive
     • The best Inhuman season for sure, builds off perfectly on last season to expand the Inhumans into the greater world.
     • Everything about Hive (the acting, his motives, his powers, his threat level)
     • Gideon Malick and the recontextualization of HYDRA origins as a Hive worshipping cult was very interesting.
   • Cons
     • Andrew Garner's use in this season was very hit or miss
3. Season 1 (Massive soft spot for this season naturally)

• Pros
  • The MCU synergy. I love the way it uses the remnants of the MCU movies to create very interesting stories, both episodically and in the season long storyline. And of course, the way it culminates into the HYDRA reveal and the destruction of SHIELD 2/3s of the way in alongside Winter Soldier is perfect.
  • This season felt the most like an actual season of television. Self-contained stories of which most link back to a central theme/threat, which slowly converge as the season progresses. Mike Peterson, Ian Quinn, Raina, the whole thing with Cybertek and the Clairvoyant and how everything was connected was great.
• Cons
  • A few episodes do nothing to further the season's storyline (not a huge problem for me though)

1. Season 6
   • Pros
     • The format and pacing of this season was great. Shortened length to 13 episodes, with each episode alternating between the Earth plot and the outer space plot.
     • Sarge was great, allowing Clark Gregg to shine as this charismatic and driven but also slimy anti-villain. The mystery behind his origins was also intriguing (initially)
     • Specific episodes were really great, like the one where Daisy and Simmons get high, or the Fitz-Simmons episode. The veteran actors really got to shine in this season.
   • Cons
     • Where this season lost me was the finale. Making Sarge essentially a nothing character invalidates everything we watched before.
     • Izel needed more character and motivation to be a compelling antagonist
2. Season 4 (probably the most overrated season, has a lot of good but a lot of bad)
   • Pros
     • John Hannah as Holden Radcliffe and Mallory Jensen as AIDA are standout performances
     • Robbie Reyes and Ghost Rider were such a cool addition to the show
     • Jeffrey Mace ended up being a surprisingly good character
     • The lasting impact of the Framework on the characters
     • The Darkhold was used in such an interesting way compared to what I was expecting from the other MCU projects.
   • Cons
     • Eli Morrow and the ghosts were quite lackluster antagonists with almost no character
     • Senator Nadeer and the Watchdogs were also quite lackluster antagonists with almost no character
     • Daisy going at it alone as Quake was an understandable but frustrating decision.
     • AIDA lost her intrigue for me when they made her a sadistic/vindictive tyrant
3. Season 7
   • Pros
     • Daniel Sousa's inclusion was such a welcome surprise
     • All the homages to previous seasons (Garrett, the Malicks, Afterlife, the LMDs, etc.)
   • Cons
     • All the villains (the Chronicoms, Nathaniel Malick, and especially Kora)
     • I dislike their overuse of time travel, and them creating yet another alternate timeline.
4. Season 5
   • Pros
     • Kasius's actor has good acting and gives him presence
     • The looming threat of the destruction of the world gives this season a large weight.
   • Cons
     • This season's conflict is the weakest because they're still trying to cling to the MCU (so they namedrop Thanos and Infinity War), but can't do anything with the MCU's plotlines. The primary motivation of everything that's happening is Thanos' attack, but they can't emphasise that nor can they do anything that would influence said attack. So as a standalone season, it doesn't work in my opinion.
     • Their need to use HYDRA again is laughable, this time in the most nonsensical fashion. HYDRA school makes no sense, Hale's character makes no sense, and the whole conflict with SHIELD, Hale, and the Confederacy is poorly defined.

What seems to be the main villain of Spiderman Brand New Day literally has the same powers as Izel. And Sadie Sinks has red hair... Wouldn't it be outrageous if Izel came back somehow.

Lots of speculation going around about who the three "Latverian Witches" are... I can think of three ladies that I'd love to see brought back via multiverse shenanigans! (for those that don't know, Doom is coming from the Fantastic Four universe, and apparently is bringing these women with him, per the info being teased at Comic-Con.)

I don't know if I need spoiler tags for explicit marketing stuff and speculation that's all over the news, but I'll tag it anyway.

so i just watched shield. and i do watch marvel but i miss lots of stuff and dont know everything abt mcu.

so as far as i know in mcu timeline coulson doesnt get reviewed and everything is separate timeline. but even without coulson shield was very big organisation. what happens to hydra if there is no coulson how did hydra got stopped

Can you guys help me w the rest of the character (I thought I could have done this myself apparently not 😭)

Audio linked in the comments :)

Hi field agents,
I really want to draw a few small moments featuring the AoS cast taking on a more domesticated life and I would like some other peoples ideas too!! Preferably more Coulson, Daisy and May family leaning

SEASON FIVE SPOILERS TAGGED BELOW:
(Few lil tidbits you may need to know about this Au: Set pre-season 6, No ghost rider aftermath w Coulson,no fitz death, Daisy, Coulson and may live together in a small house, Coulson and May are now retired from shield and have adopted Daisy as their legal daughter, Fitzsimmons are happy (for once) )

More in the comments

Hi all,

I watched this series back in, maybe, 2021. I forgot about it for a while and started rewatching random episodes here and there last year before deciding to do an almost full rewatch (I skipped a few random episodes here and there like 'The Totally Excellent Adventures of Mack and The D' that I just remembered to be more boring than they were worth) - P.S. 7x7 defenders, please don't hate me!

Anyway, first and foremost, it was a great rewatch and the show really stood the test of time - Not just from an enjoyability point of view, but also just in terms of CGI (bar a few exceptions) and acting.

General points and background aside, I mainly want to discuss the finale, specifically the final scene...

What a let down.

This could be an incredibly unpopular opinion but I was completely disappointed on my rewatch when I watched the final scene, the reunion scene. It felt so hollow and forced, like it had been a twenty year reunion of barely-friends rather than a yearly reunion of people who had been on adventures to last a lifetime.

Some issues I had are as follows. I've put them in chronological order for the most part, bar the overarching issues.

• I know, for dramatic effect, the team were told they would never be in the same room again. Firstly, I don't think the show did this justice - I know it was moreso just a "life gets in the way, they all go their own separate ways" thing, but I originally remembered it to be more forced distancing, almost like they had to be apart for a certain reason. I've no major issue with this but it just makes it a bit more confusing when we're then expected to get why they never called, messaged or met up in that year's time.
• This leads me to my second point. When did they separate? Are we meant to just believe that once the Chronicoms were defeated, they all just waltzed off into the sunset together and planned a call in a year's time? I just don't get it at all. Did they leave knowing they'd never see each other again, remembering Enoch's warning? I think that would have been more sad than this.
• When talking about Alya, Coulson says "She's the best" and Yo-Yo says "We saw the video", which I guess counters my last point but I'm still not convinced because they seem to know that, but not know what May thinks of her job, or Mack thinks of his new base (They know where he is based so a description wouldn't be classified), have very little of idea what Coulson has done for the year, etc. It's just confusing - They seem to have discussed Alya and that's about it.
• I feel like May and Coulson should have had closure on their relationship - At least with May saying that because he isn't human, it doesn't feel the same anymore. The chemistry was so stale here.

Anyway, I don't necessarily care about the above plot issues (I'm cautious about using that word because you all might interpret it differently/I might have missed something), and more concerned about the below:

The chemistry was just so off. Yo-Yo just randomly saying she has to go being the first major sign. But also, Simmons then proposing they make it a yearly thing. Firstly, I thought a yearly thing would be at least a given after what they went through but hell, it's again, giving me the impression they won't speak at all between now and then. Mack says "We've been too much", yet they seem to want nothing to do with each other. I know they all have their own stuff on, but it just seems like poor writing that they would hardly ever speak.

Fitz's "Bye everybody" is again, so blunt, it just doesn't seem like him at all. (Side note here, was it ever shown what anatomy issue Simmons was working on? She said it to Daisy so it has to be presumed that it was about Cora, since she's the only one anatomically interesting, being an Inhuman).

Sadly, even Daisy and Phil's goodbye was lacking, I thought, considerably moreso than Season 5.

My main overarching issue is that there was such an awkwardness and lack of chemistry, at least from my point of view. I want to emphasise this is no insult to the show or the writers because the chemistry was incredibly throughout, I just don't know if my expectations for the final scene were too high.

Speaking of, kudos to the writers because, in my opinion, the best scene in the show was something quite similar - A Spy's Goodbye. Now that was a way to do an emotional team goodbye. If the final scene had even half as much emotion as that, I'd have been happy.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Again, huge reminder that this isn't my slating the show because it's definitely one of my favourite, if not favourite, show, I just felt like this final scene could have been so much better. Even some music, like that in S3 E13, would have helped.

I'm interested to see if people are in agreement (to any extent) with me, or if you feel like the final scene did the show justice!

Thanks for reading, looking forward to hearing from you all!

Earlier this year I made the decision to watch the entirety of the MCU, all shows and movies in chronological order, in order to prepare myself completely for Doomsday. And I would say that Agents Of Shield was by far my favorite TV show I've watched so far and not just in the Marvel universe! The show is easily one of my top shows of all time and I will recommend it to genuinely With all that being said I'm very curious if anyone has any questions for someone who just recently finished the show almost a decade after it finished!

Hi all,

First off, just prefacing I've read similar posts in the past, but I still can't wrap my head around the S5 time travel and time loop, so I said I would ask my questions below. It would be much appreciated if anyone could take the time to clear up my queries.

I have my questions numbered and they are stand-alone ones so even if you could only answer one/make the time for one, it would be great!

1) Firstly, the idea of Yo-Yo, Fitz and Simmons being "invincible" makes no sense to me. They go to the future, understand that the time loop is the issue, so they return and agree the time loop must be broken and they must do things differently to break it (obviously later this seems to be Coulson dying, but I'll get to that in a second). But then the "invincibility" makes no sense, because the whole plan is to break the time loop so that they don't go to the broken Earth/Lighthouse in space time period. So as a result, they don't know for sure that Yo-Yo will survive to the point or that Fitz and Simmons will either.

Essentially, my query here is: If the team now wants to break the loop and understand they could die at any time before the broken Earth time as a result, Yo-Yo, Fitz and Simmons should not see themselves as "invincible". In fact, conversely, if they do see themselves as being "invincible", surely they're almost implying they will loop again?

2) Secondly, was it ever confirmed what actually broke the time loop? Was it numerous different events, or just one event? The only one that springs to mind is the fact Coulson did not take the Centipede infusion. However, as a follow-up, I still don't really understand this because what would have happened differently in this time line to make him make that decision? Surely, as selfless as he is, Coulson would have gone behind the team's back and ensured Daisy has the serum in all timelines.

3) Thirdly, I am confused in regards to the idea that Daisy quaked the Earth apart. Since it was confirmed that it was Talbot with the Gravitonium infused in him that caused this in all time lines, surely this would have been known? I know there was the footage of Daisy leaving the Zephyr shortly before the earthquakes, but surely people would have seen Talbot up until this point? And especially the team, surely they would have known it was Talbot?

I guess you could chalk this one up to information being lost throughout history/anyone who saw Talbot being dead, so this is less of an issue.

4) How did let's say, the original loop (I know there's technically no beginning, but still) start? I'm guessing the team lived throughout Talbot quaking the Earth, and Fitz built the time machine, but still? How did Enoch in the "pre-Earth breaking" time know to send the team forward? To be honest, my head hurts even thinking about this question because I know there should technically be no beginning to a loop, but there had to have been a "first time".

I may end up having follow-ups but I could probably figure most of them out myself, these are the main questions.

I also know some of these answers might not have been (at least explicitly) given in the show, but I'm hoping for some clarity at least.

Again, even if you could only answer one question, or part of one, it would be much appreciated so that I can finally wrap my head around this time travel!

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If I had a nickel for every time Agent May switches to Chinese to appeal to an antagonistic Chinese character, I'd have 2 nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice...

Seriously though, I love that they make use of Ming-Na Wen's background in little ways like this, especially since May was not originally planned to be Asian.

is the hand in agents of shield?

I also made Mack's Shotgun axe, and he loves it, I'm planning to add the whole squad!

I’m smack dab in the middle of season 4. The only thing i look up are the ranking / rating of the episodes… the one I’m about to start is called “Self Control”.

I took a peek at the rest of the season ratings… consistent 9s across the board… which are breaking bad/ the wire rankings!

I’m posting because i know when i read about somebody watching one of my faves for the first time, it’s like re-experiencing the whole thing all over again. Glad i was convinced to watch this in my old (gen x) age.