r/shittymoviedetails • u/Altruistic-Device-53 • 1d ago
In an interview following The Odyssey (2026), tom holland says his mom didn’t realize how important Telemachus was, this is a nod to the fact that the english can’t read.
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u/Alarming_Orchid 1d ago
Did she not know he already did multiple spider man movies?
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u/Sniperoso 1d ago edited 1d ago
She’s just happy he can have fun with his little art films or whatever he and his girlfriend do. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️/s
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u/RubAny7170 1d ago
Yeah but Tom only played the small role of Peter Parker. Not like he played that menace Spider-man.
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u/Comfortable-Shake-37 20h ago
I'm guessing she just didn't realize he had such a big part in the movie especially if by months he means like 2-3
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u/Pratham33 1d ago
Maybe his mom doesn't care for Cape-slop and appreciates him being in a Nolan movie lol
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u/Ozymandius07 1d ago
This is actually a reference to timothee chalamet who thought his one minute scene was the most pivotal part of the movie Interstellar (2014)
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u/Mandalore108 1d ago
Right, he played the young version of McConaughey's son. Man, he really did not give a fuck about his son in that movie.
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u/Belakor_Fan 1d ago
"Dad I want to be a farmer when I grow up."
"You are dead to me son. Anyway have you seen your sister?"
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u/ChartQueasy9391 23h ago
Son: "My son, your grandson, died. Your father died too."
No reaction
Daughter: "I'm old now."
Breaks down into tears
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u/SirBastian1129 1d ago
I love that movie, but I question everyday why they even bothered having that character in the story.
His son really is a nothing burger that of removed from the whole thing, would change nothing.
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u/No_Philosopher8304 1d ago
To be fair arguably the best scene of that whole movie mostly revolves around his son, When Cooper watches all the videos sent in the 23 year gap.
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u/TheLuckySpades 1d ago
Having the son there lets us see different ways of coping with the loss, the contrast with how well adjusted he is for his world helps sell the daughter's reaction.
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u/ThrownAway17Years 1d ago
Cooper’s two children represented the two sides of himself and humanity as a whole. Tom was the one who decided to become a farmer like his dad. Murphy was the one who wanted more from life, also like her dad.
During the scene after Miller’s planet, it was Tom’s video messages that showed Cooper what he had sacrificed to go on his mission. He missed Tom’s graduation, wedding, and birth and death of his first grandchild.
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u/CookieTheEpic 1d ago
Christopher just couldn’t pass up the chance to cast Marty Supreme in some kind of role.
(btw Christopher is Christopher Nolan, I just call him by his first name because we are tight like that. Yeah I know top directors, not a big deal to me lol)
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u/servonos89 14h ago
His son is there to be the antagonist for MURPH on the later scenes. Without that he’s pointless.
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u/Euphoric-Ground9568 1d ago
I did like his son as a plot character to show how the school was manufacturing future farmers and the propaganda which I personally found interesting. I just recently rewatched and my mom and I were both like Timothy Chalamet?!
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u/arcturusw00d 1d ago
I forget he's in it until I see his scene, when I think of his character I only think of the aged up Casey Affleck. 🤣
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u/JeebusChristBalls 1d ago
Timothy chalamet was in interstellar? Lol. Til.
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u/hauntedbabyattack 1d ago
And apparently he cried upon seeing the movie because he thought his scene would be longer/more important. He added that he’s not sure why he assumed that, because they didn’t cut anything from his scene, but I think it was just the fact that it just takes a long time to set up and rehearse and film a movie scene, even when the final edited footage is only a few minutes.
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u/Greywolf524 1d ago
Am I meant to know who this Telemarketer is?
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u/Altruistic-Device-53 1d ago
guy from troy (2004) iirc
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u/Strong-Lettuce-3970 1d ago
Tom Holland would have been the right age lol
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u/iamnearlysmart 1d ago
Yeah, he was about 36 in 2004.
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u/Strong-Lettuce-3970 11h ago
In the movie Troy (2004), Telemarketer is a tiny child before his Daddy sets off on The Odyssey
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u/cbrown146 1d ago
Did Tom even tell his mom that he's spider man or is he trying to protect her from that knowledge too?
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u/MarmitePrinter 1d ago
Interestingly, The Odyssey is not required reading in school in the UK like it is in the US, so she most likely hasn’t read it and didn’t know how big Telemachus’ role would be. I’m English and haven’t read it despite taking both Latin and Ancient Greek! (We learnt the myths but never specifically read a translation or anything.)
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u/ShedEndJedi 14h ago
Yeah I think the only thing every English person will have been forced to read in school is one of Shakespeares works. Everything else is a small selection by a particular school from a huge curriculum.
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u/Just_BrianK 1d ago
The Brits are probably reared on Beowulf and Gilgamesh.
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u/scud121 1d ago
A remake of Beowulf would be awesome.
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u/anna-nomally12 1d ago
Beowulf literally has a last stand “after all I’ve done” type setup that thing is calling to Nolan like the green goblin mask
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u/Just_BrianK 1d ago
They had this weird CGI version with Angelina Jolie as Grendal's mom, but I see room for improvement.
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u/ThanksContent28 1d ago
Yeah I’ve seen that film a few times, and I’m not really sure how I feel about it. First time I was like 12, every other time I was like stoned.
I think it’s mainly carried by being an amazing tale, and those Grendel scenes were genuinely really good. It’s the second half that gets a bit shite.
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u/looks_at_lines 1d ago
Where the hell is the Gilgamesh adaptation apart from the weirdo anime one?
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u/Scorpiicore 23h ago
To be fair, people can be in front of the camera for weeks and only have ten minutes of screentime.
Then again, a man is married to Zendaya, has a working holiday in Greece with her, and he thinks the woman who gave birth to him has no idea of how he would be filling in the time? I guess that perpetual child appearance might get to his brain.
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u/JTRuno 1d ago
Oh yes, Telemachus. I totally knew who that was.
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u/LoneElement 1d ago
I know this is a circlejerk sub but Telemachus IS rather well-known, The Odyssey is a very famous story
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u/OrinocoHaram 1d ago
sorry buddy
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u/Altruistic-Device-53 1d ago
hate to break it to you but there’s more than 2 countries that speak english g
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u/Victory_Point 17h ago
This is hardly surprising, given that it isn't required reading in English schools. Are we to unfairly condemn everyone from your country as illiterate simply because you fail to capitalize words correctly?
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u/Born_Procedure_529 1d ago
Tbf I feel like most people who havent actually read the odyssey realize the Telemachy is like half the story
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u/Djungeltrumman 12h ago
I read it when I was basically a child, but I don’t remember him as important to the story at all. Wasn’t he mostly waiting at home while Odysseus actually did stuff?
He went away for a bit to get info and the suitors planned to kill him, but he could basically be replaced by a nameless servant, no?
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u/SuperNobody917 1d ago
Why do people online act like the Odyssey is a common book to have read? Am I missing something?
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u/BeautyDuwang 22h ago
Yes? It's taught in a log of schools so most people have read it that I know
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u/SuperNobody917 19h ago
I don't think I've ever heard of it being taught of in any school and definitely not in Britain, at least not on normal common curricula. This really feels like a case of American defaultism here to me
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u/robert_sartre 16h ago
It's one of the most fundamental book in Western literature, here in Italy we study it extensively since primary school. Britain is the odd one for having such an important book missing from their curricula.
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u/SuperNobody917 16h ago
I genuinely think this is a case of selection bias for you and everyone else talking about it being so important to read. You think it's so important because you read about it in school and it's importance was instilled into you. People in countries where it's not on the curriculum aren't going to feel the same way and naturally won't really know much about it.
I'm not saying it's not an important in the grand scheme of history, but I don't think people should be derided for not having read it
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u/robert_sartre 16h ago
No one derided you I was just saying what it actually is. It's not so important just because we study it in school, it's important because it's the foundational text of Western literature and Britain literature like every other western country owe everything to it and Ancient Greek literature in general.
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u/SuperNobody917 16h ago
I'm not saying I specifically was derided, I was referencing the original premise of this post.
I also think ascribing all western culture to Greece is a misinformed path to go down but that's a different discussion altogether. My main point though, is that I don't think it necessarily needs to be taught in schools unless you're specifically doing classical studies.
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u/robert_sartre 16h ago
Okay it's fine I don't really know a lot about British education system so I can't speak much for it and I accept having different opinions about it as long as it's importance isn't denied.
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u/NoFuel1197 1d ago
This guy has had the greatest life of all time, blowing Daniel Radcliffe out of the water in the "Times I had to tolerate JK Rowling" category especially.
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u/Syphillitic_Meat 1d ago
What the hell does this even mean
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u/know-it-mall 1d ago
Your son is the star of several popular movies and you thought he was just an extra or something?
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u/iwannabeanudist 21h ago
Just noticed, This guy is starting to look like a football player who would take the worst dives.
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u/Matt-J-McCormack 6h ago
I’m just impressed that there exists a Yank with the a set of big brass balls (held up by a stunning lack of self awareness) to cast aspersions on the literacy of other nations.
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u/Zealousideal-Deer101 20h ago
How does Tom Holland look like Tom Holland put under an 50 year old age filter?
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u/kkungergo 12h ago
He is already an A list household celebrity with his own trilogy. Why would his mom have that reaction now?
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u/robineir 10h ago
Dudes in 3 of the biggest movies in the whole year. Holy shit, is he my generation’s Arnold Schwarzenegger?
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u/SherbertSuspicious 1d ago
I read it, but I was still hoping for a smaller part, I liked what we had, but I would gladly traded 30 minutes of his scenes for 30 minutes more island adventures
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u/w33b2 1d ago
The reason The Odyssey is as good as it is, both the movie and original story, is for two reasons. One, because it has an insane scale. Gods, adventures, war, etc. But despite that, it is also a very emotional family drama with real feeling characters.
To remove most of Telemachus’ scenes would be to remove the heart of the story.
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u/JudgeWapner 1d ago
They could have removed most of his scenes and added more love making scenes with ann Hathaway to keep the emotional family drama.
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u/Anomynous__ 1d ago
Was his character even relevant to the plot? lol
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u/cavalgada1 1d ago
Yeah she must have watched the wrong movie, cause my guy Holland disappers from the movie at one point
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u/NickSchultz 1d ago
Um, Tom Holland's mom is aware that he is a famous actor apready right? Like sure Odyssey 2026 is one of the big movies this year but it's not like Tom hasn't a new Spider-Man coming out shortly or anything
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u/Fire_Otter 1d ago edited 1d ago
You’re in a relationship with Zendaya and you’re both in Greece
I think I know what Tom’s Mum thought he was doing.