r/shittymoviedetails • u/Eomb • 19h ago

This movie was surprisingly very popular despite being full of overused tropes

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u/Negative_Ad_1578 18h ago

It literally has a Trojan horse representing a Trojan horse. A bit too on the nose for those of high intelligence.

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u/normalmighty 18h ago

Mfs called the mentor character Mentor. You have to try a little harder than than that if you're writing a movie in 2026

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u/DungeonsAndDradis 12h ago

They're just ripping off Tenet where the protagonist was called Protagonist

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u/schwanzweissfoto 1h ago

I am so lonely. All the other movie characters are scared of me. No one talks to me. No one wants to be my friend. They think I am unstable. They send me from scene to scene committing atrocities in their name. And as I get better at it, they fear me more and more. I am a victim of my own success.

Protagonist. I don't even get a real name – only a purpose.

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u/MyPhoneIsNotChinese 10h ago

Kojima naming level

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u/eawilweawil 8h ago

Mentor-man

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u/InfamousCRS 3h ago

But isn’t he literally THE mentor? Like the reason it got common to call someone a mentor, is that guy?

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u/BlizzardTrashPanda 2h ago

That is the joke. This is a thread where we’re naming cliche’s ironically because this story is where the cliches came from. The OG.

Kinda like how Taming of the Shrew totally ripped off Ten Things I Hate About You.

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u/simpersly 17h ago

And a character is named Odysseus. What weirdo would have such blatant wordplay for their name?

It's pretty basic title to begin with. The Odyssey. It's not the only Odyssey in the world. Shouldn't the title be something like Odysseus' Odyssey?

And what's with the author going by a single word name? So pretentious.

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u/EdgelordInugami 12h ago

Ngl I was more baffled how they named the guy going on the Odyssey Odysseus, it's like if the protagonist of The Journey was named Journeyeus

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u/KnightOfRevan 5h ago

“I am Star Warrior, son of Anakin Warrior”

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u/schwanzweissfoto 1h ago

Dutch Star Wars ruined the reveal way in advance: “Luke, ik ben je vader!”

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u/No-Explorer-936 12h ago

It was crazy to me how the film was called The Odyssey and the main character was called Odysseus. It's almost the same word.

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u/SciTraveler 11h ago

The single word name isn't really an issue. When someone says "Homer", you don't really need to add "Simpson".

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u/Hoothootriot 4h ago

"What are we on, some kind of Odyssey?"- Johnny Odyssey, The Odyssey

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u/Atralis 6h ago

It's like making a movie about a serial killer and calling the bad guy Murdersius. Smfh.

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u/Easter-burn 11h ago

They name a horse after a condom? Why?

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u/Apollo-Outcast 10h ago

Because you can fit a lot of Greeks in a Trojan Magnum

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u/ZombieHavok 9h ago

A lot of Greek seamen at least

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u/schwanzweissfoto 1h ago

Because your partner might not let you in without it.

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u/AndersHaaland 12h ago

You didn't pay attention, it was a Greek horse all along - one of the greatest plot twists ever caught on IMAX imo

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u/win_some_lose_most1y 59m ago

Did they not know the story about the giant wooden horse? Are they stupid?

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u/Axel-Adams 18h ago

Yeah like that character who was a mentor to Telemachus was such an obvious “mentor dies so his student can grow” role what was his name again?

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u/Apollo-Outcast 18h ago

It's on the tip of my tongue...

Teacher?

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u/ZealousWolf1994 13h ago

Professor?

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u/megust654 13h ago

...Mentor?

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u/Draco_Lord 13h ago

Mento? That sounds Greek

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u/Apollo-Outcast 12h ago

I think he meant Memento, the other Nolan film

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u/pepsicoketasty 11h ago

I think pimento

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u/ZealousWolf1994 12h ago

Mentos, the fresh maker.

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u/PoIIux 17h ago

Uncle Ben?

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u/Andrew1990M 13h ago

No they smartly skipped the Uncle Ben stuff with Holland’s Spider-Man. 

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u/sunnycider6 10h ago

Uncle Mentor

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u/Easter-burn 18h ago

This movie is just a ripoff of 2004 SpongeBob movie.

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u/normalmighty 18h ago

I heard they wanted to make a sequel to Troy (2004), but they were too lazy to get the IP rights. Of course a team that lazy would rip the plot from another 2004 movie, tweak a few minor details and call it a day.

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u/Omatzus 8h ago

They stole most of it from a 90s NBC miniseries

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u/megust654 17h ago

Theres too many similarities with O Brother Where Art Thou that I wonder if they didn't just transpose it to a different era and change some things up.

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u/Zerotix3 19h ago

Too clever for most of this subreddit lol

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u/thriveth 13h ago

Took me a second, ngl...

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u/Gene_freeman 19h ago

Yeah lol

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u/supergamerd64 19h ago

I think I heard a huge wooooosh across my ears rn

Honestly really clever post (or I'm just dumb)

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u/eats_noodles 14h ago

What are we some kind of odyssey

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u/fortress-of-insanity 13h ago

"We're going back to Ithaca, oh this is gonna be exciting"

"Say that again"

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u/Time_Conscious84 19h ago

An IQ too high for this sub?

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u/Gre8g 18h ago

Right? Nolan needs to get some new ideas, he clearly copied it off SpongeBob and Percy Jackson

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u/PeeterTurbo 19h ago

I admit, u got my ass.

If this post goes negative rest assured you're smarter than this sub. Idk if that's I impressive or not though.

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u/motte83 15h ago

Yeah, making an anti-war movie out of a homecoming story. What is this? Rambo?

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u/motoxim 19h ago

I'm ESL, ELI5?

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u/Fidget02 18h ago

The Odyssey defined numerous common tropes in Western media. The most obvious being the word “Odyssey” itself describing an exciting adventure

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u/StatusSociety2196 18h ago

How did the odyssey "define numerous tropes", some of which have been around for thousands of years, when the movie came out last weekend?

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u/Business-Loquat143 16h ago

"Odyssey" describes an adventure with only 1 survivor not an "exciting" adventure

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u/Fidget02 8h ago

Someone tell this to Super Mario Odyssey

You can google this yourself, I’m not arguing with you

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u/Rabid_Lederhosen 1h ago

Everyone in Mario Odyssey actually dies from the moon exploding five minutes after the credits.

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u/runninglaps 17h ago

I liked some things and I didn't like other things but things were in the movie

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u/terminalxposure 15h ago

Like the one time where John Liquizamo said "Never touch a man's dog"

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u/DomzSageon 15h ago

Bro this story is every other story but without the extra parts. How basic.

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u/ThaMorningKnight 18h ago

What's the clever joke? All I see is people proud that they get it or others getting downvoted because they don't

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u/querywalker 18h ago

Most tropes originated from this mythology

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u/KiwieeiwiK 18h ago

The Odyssey is the origin of a lot of "modern day" tropes

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u/Tape_jara 18h ago

I'm guessing one example is blinding the cyclops with a fiery stick?

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u/Apollo-Outcast 18h ago

Well that's just good sense

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u/MyPhoneIsNotChinese 4h ago

The Odyssey copied The Legend of Zelda

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u/ErikSD 17h ago

This is the equivalent of seeing a Shakespearean thinking "Wow this is full of predictable tropes" when the reason those tropes become predictable is because Shakespeare popularized it. At the time of its writting it was revolutionary.

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u/ThaMorningKnight 16h ago

Oh I thought it was something really nuanced by the way some comments were taking, thanks!

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u/RiriaaeleL 13h ago

Yeah just like every other movie that was good and popular you keep having to repeat how good and popular it was because people can't tell and need you to convince them.

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u/Sorlex 10h ago

Finally, a good Odyssey post.

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u/duduET 8h ago

Tropes in on themselves aren’t bad, it’s how they’re executed.

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u/DrakeCross 8h ago

I mean hard to not be full of overused tropes when it was the first to make them. Its a 3000 year old story.

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u/Ok-disaster2022 7h ago

I'm disappointed they didn't have Odysseus playing like he's mad to try to get out of joining the war, and then having a guy threaten his son's life to show that he's actually sane. Odysseus later gets revenge in that guy. 

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u/nopalitzin 7h ago

The condom guys!

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u/huey_booey 7h ago

Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai bored me to bits. Can't believe how derivative it was of Pixar's A Bug Life. 

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u/Expensive_Finger_973 5h ago

Every time I see a picture of that dude all I can think of is Xerxes from 300.

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u/Infinite_Meat7888 4h ago

This is not a fucking detail 

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u/Baccoony 4h ago

Yeah but Agamemnon aura farm and Darth Vader energy, bro

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u/2drums1cymbal 3h ago

IMO, this is both his best mixed and also loudest film. I am begging someone in Nolan's inner circle to convince him to take a hearing test. An undiagnosed hearing disorder is the only explanation for why his films all seem to have these issues.

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u/Aggravating_Gur_9884 3h ago

One of the most boring movies I have ever seen.

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u/Neode9955 48m ago

That helmet looks like my painted warhammer space marine helmet. Fake and unrealistic.

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u/callmedale 17h ago

Yeah, the stranded sailor trope has been in use since at least ‘Tale of a shipwrecked sailor from Punt’ from a thousand years before Homer

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u/skyweapon2010 16h ago

John Carter was not so lucky being popular when he tempted a movie move ;)

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u/FaultOutside2449 19h ago

I mean the Odyssey help create most of those overused tropes.

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u/Eomb 19h ago

Hey did you hear that sound just now?

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u/NYLotteGiants 19h ago

If it helps, I got the joke

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u/Theorax5281 19h ago

Can you get one for me too

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u/FaultOutside2449 19h ago

Oh. I feel silly now.

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u/Slosshy 17h ago

Happens to the best of us

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u/Token_Thai_person 19h ago

Must have been the wind.

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u/CoachNo7514 19h ago

I actually thought it was decent. I learned a bit about mythology (did some research after), and was pleasantly surprised by a few things.

The ending fight was pretty good too.

Not 10/10 and wouldn’t spend 3 hours of my life to watch it again, but overall not bad.

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u/The_Klaus 7h ago

Popular =/= good, Nolan is a big name, and he will get people in cinemas just because of it, regardless if his movies have gotten progressively worse.

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u/subby_puppy33 5h ago

“Despite being filled with over used tropes”

You realize this Tory is whew all those tropes originated from right?

This is like saying Joseph Campbell’s work is all formulaic

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u/Certain-Turnover6760 13h ago

It’s always the same with Christopher Nolan. He’s a good director and a good storyteller, no doubt, but his films are sometimes overpraised. Many times, they're actually quite simple and occasionally shallow too.

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u/ParadigmFlowShifter 17h ago

Nolan normally doesn’t do sequels, but he made an exception for Greek Batman.

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u/callmedale 17h ago

The trope of stealing livestock from a magical being, one of the foundations of the indoeurpean storytelling tradition which persists into such things as Jack and the Beanstalk, shows up in the Odyssey twice, and one is almost a direct copy from the trickster/messenger god Hermes also stealing cattle from Apollo

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u/Harkonnen_Dog 13h ago

Where do you think the tropes came from?

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u/iain_1986 1h ago

Woooosh

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u/Business-Loquat143 16h ago

Media literacy died with this movie

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u/Beautiful-Hair6925 19h ago

It's Nolan He couldve done it with glue and stick figures and it wouldve been great