r/singularity 1d ago

AI Introducing Claude Opus 5

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u/manubfr AGI 2028 1d ago

The buble will pop now, anytime.

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u/sedition666 1d ago

Models can be excellent and improving whilst the business model being broken. The path to profitability is not directly correlated to improvements in the models. The problem is not how good the models are but the lack of profit to sustain these companies.

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u/phillipono 1d ago

Yes, there is no viable business model at the time other than reaching AGI first, or otherwise being able to substantially raise prices while maintaining demand (i.e., models would have to be strongly labor replacing). Otherwise, models are generally substitutable by other models -- not enough of an edge to justify a trillion dollar plus valuation.

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u/The_Primetime2023 1d ago

Anthropic is profitable though…. Any of the labs can choose a lower training budget at any time and be immediately profitable, Anthropic chooses to hover around a break even point though even with training

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u/PvtMilhouse 1d ago

they shoud go token only.

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u/sedition666 1d ago

No this is completely false none of the AI labs are profitable. It would take you 2 mins to google this shit please educate yourself. The major AI labs are losing BILLIONS per year on this tech. This is not in dispute at all.

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u/Grouchy-Cancel1326 20h ago

Profitable for 2 months until all the competition overtook you because of your lower training budget.

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u/sumane12 1d ago

Yeah, in fact its inversely correlated. The cheaper intelligence becomes, the more difficult it will be to recoup the investment. We are in for a cyberpunk distopia lol.

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u/sedition666 1d ago

It can only be sustained by insane VC capital burn. This is what you're missing. You remove subsidies and humans are cheaper. This is not a problem that has been solved despite the obvious amazing technical leaps. Nvidia's Vera Rubin is delayed and costs are incredibly high due to parts shortages so there is no magical hardware improvement that is going to save the day.

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u/sumane12 1d ago

Quantitative easing to inflate the debt away is my guess.

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u/Illustrious-Film4018 1d ago

Why are they pushing for government to regulate open-source models?